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How to Know Iphone is Blacklisted

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How to Know Iphone is Blacklisted

Hello RFDers

Recently bought a phone off kijiji. Sealed brand new iphone 11. Called the selling guy at nearest apple store to verify if it is a blacklisted phone or not. The CSR mentioned that the phone has not been set up yet. Warranty will be valid from the first day of setup. Opened the phone and did the setup. All is doing well as of now. I still did not keep my sim yet in the phone.

Just fearing that if i keep the sim, would it show it as blacklisted. Let me know your thoughts on this. Should I keep the sim in new phone or take it to the apple store and let them know about this..
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this should be moved to the "cellphones" sub form, best of luck!
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Amourek wrote: The blacklist is based on the phone's IMEI number. You can check it here: https://www.devicecheck.ca/check-status-device-canada/

BTW, just bc it's not blacklisted now, doesn't mean it can't be blacklisted later.

so this means that i will only know when i insert the sim?. The seller deleted off his profile from kijiji. He looked genuine when he called me at the Applestore
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glenn9090 wrote:
so this means that i will only know when i insert the sim?. The seller deleted off his profile from kijiji. He looked genuine when he called me at the Applestore
Yes. Basically in 6 months or whenever, it could get blacklisted out of the blue.
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Only way to find out is put the sim in. You already bought it so go for it.
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glenn9090 wrote: so this means that i will only know when i insert the sim?. The seller deleted off his profile from kijiji. He looked genuine when he called me at the Applestore
Did he provide a receipt for the iPhone?

There is no incentive for the seller to black list the phone unless he has some sort of insurance that would replace the phone if he lost or had it stolen.
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Gee wrote: Did he provide a receipt for the iPhone?

There is no incentive for the seller to black list the phone unless he has some sort of insurance that would replace the phone if he lost or had it stolen.
I asked the same question and here was his response
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Thought he was genuine as we were meeting at the apple store... will insert the sim later and see . just fingers crossed.
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jackrabbit000 wrote: Only way to find out is put the sim in. You already bought it so go for it.
To be fair, OP could toss the SIM and put a different one in and still get blacklisted.
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Blacklisting has nothing to do with a sim, it has to do with the phone's imei. Using different sim cards in a blacklisted phone will not help unless the sim is from a carrier that does not participate in the blacklist system.
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glenn9090 wrote: Thought he was genuine as we were meeting at the apple store... will insert the sim later and see . just fingers crossed.
If he has insurance from Bell for the phone, he may black list it and ask for a replacement. At this point I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
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glenn9090 wrote: The seller deleted off his profile from kijiji.
That alone gives me doubt
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Gee wrote: There is no incentive for the seller to black list the phone unless he has some sort of insurance that would replace the phone if he lost or had it stolen.
Another reason for blacklisting is if the phone was purchased with a stolen identity/credit card fraud. Apparently this is a thing, within the organized crime world. Steal somebody's identity, either use their existing credit card that you've stolen or set up a new one under their name, buy stuff that's high dollar value but easy to sell (phones are a big one), profit! And since the identity fraud takes a while to be found, and then on top of that it takes FURTHER extra time to see what was bought, do the chargeback, and then blacklist the phone, by the time the unwitting buyer's phone ends up blacklisted, the thief is *long* gone.
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And sorry, to re-iterate to OP: nothing you can do will guarantee that the phone doesn't end up blacklisted in the future. Order summary from Bell won't even guarantee it doesn't get blacklisted, if they bought it using a stolen identity. The seller deleting their Kijiji account right after the sale is a *huge* red flag, but there's nothing you can do now except wait and see if it ends up turning into a very expensive paperweight.
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audit13 wrote: Blacklisting has nothing to do with a sim, it has to do with the phone's imei. Using different sim cards in a blacklisted phone will not help unless the sim is from a carrier that does not participate in the blacklist system.

The applestore guy checked the IMEI of the phone and said this phone was not yet setup and he also said that the warranty starts from the day I setup the phone.

One more thing to add up, i gave the phone as a gift to someone. ... it was setup and no sim was kept as of today. Would any sim outside canada work and you may not end up blacklisted..

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