How much is it to add a gas line?

As your basement will be unfinished, adding a gas line after would not be difficult at all and you can likely get it done for less than $1k. That's said it's not something a DIYer should do due to risk/liability.

Just the gas line to the stove, or the gas line to the house?

Line to the stove should definitely be way less than $1k if you have a sufficiently sized main line and unfinished basement.

A gas line into the house is a different story. $1k post-build would be a steal. It costs something like $3k to get them added here, to houses that currently have electric heat. If you aren't getting a main line put in, what is your heat (and boiler) fuel source?

We had ours done after, by an installer that was a certified gas fitter. We then called Enbridge Gas Distribution to inspect and certify the final end to end connections. The certification was requested by our insurance underwriter when we called to advise of an additional natural gas appliance.

The installer, did the dishwasher (drain and water supply), Fridge (water supply), gas stove, washer (connect hoses and level basically) and dryer (exhaust to the rough in from builder) for $500 all in. It's been a long time ago, but referral came from the sales guy at the appliance store. Unfinished basement with furnace right underneath the kitchen, so we lucked out on that.

Dynatos wrote: ↑ Just the gas line to the stove, or the gas line to the house?

Just the gas line to the stove. There should be a gas line to the house already as we have one included for the BBQ.

It will depend on the distance from the nearest gas line to the stove is. Not sure if you have access to the house but if you could measure it then you could get a ball park idea of the price. If its something around 30ft then price will likely be around $500 range give or take.
Also you could call a HVAC tech to run the gas line, One of the more popular HVAC techs on RedFlagDeals @newlyborn Could run the line for you, but distance is what really needs to be known to run the line. Also if its solid pipe or the plastic flex pipe can also effect price.

You can get the gas line done after you take possession if you want to save money. It’s easier to do especially when the basement is unfinished. There is not much mess made after the floors are finished. To give you a rough idea here is the gas line installation cost - 350 for first 10 feet and than 10 dollors foot after.

Sjlaaa wrote: ↑ I'm debating paying for a gas line with the builder ($1000) because we are most likely going to go for an electric stove. Not sure if I should get it done pre construction just in case or install it after if I actually need it. How much is it to add a gas line after moving in? Is it complicated to do? Not sure if it's going to be a lot of digging and drilling around. The basement is unfinshed. Thanks

Builder is definitely overcharging for running a gas line to the stove. I’d wait and do it later for less.

Dynatos wrote: ↑Just the gas line to the stove, or the gas line to the house?

Line to the stove should definitely be way less than $1k if you have a sufficiently sized main line and unfinished basement.

A gas line into the house is a different story. $1k post-build would be a steal. It costs something like $3k to get them added here, to houses that currently have electric heat. If you aren't getting a main line put in, what is your heat (and boiler) fuel source?

Have they started charging? The last one I had done, 6 years ago, was free and included a farm tap.

Sjlaaa wrote: ↑ Just the gas line to the stove. There should be a gas line to the house already as we have one included for the BBQ.

$1000 is crazy considering they already have a fitter in to do the BBQ line and presumably furnace and water heater. It should cost no more than $500 to get someone in after the fact to do the hookup. If you don't think you have an immediate use for it just leave it and reconsider if you decide to finish the basement.

sickcars wrote: ↑ It will depend on the distance from the nearest gas line to the stove is. Not sure if you have access to the house but if you could measure it then you could get a ball park idea of the price. If its something around 30ft then price will likely be around $500 range give or take.
Also you could call a HVAC tech to run the gas line, One of the more popular HVAC techs on RedFlagDeals @newlyborn Could run the line for you, but distance is what really needs to be known to run the line. Also if its solid pipe or the plastic flex pipe can also effect price.

Plastic ?!!! Is that what you think CSST is ? You can run iron pipe, copper or CSST depending on location, but personally I would do iron for peace of mind if going under floor or behind walls as nails/screws won't puncture it.

Oh boy, settle down.

I simply said plastic because for the average home owner when you look at the yellow pipe it looks like its just made of plastic however on the inside its steel.

dilligafeh wrote: ↑ Plastic ?!!! Is that what you think CSST is ? You can run iron pipe, copper or CSST depending on location, but personally I would do iron for peace of mind if going under floor or behind walls as nails/screws won't puncture it.

sickcars wrote: ↑ Oh boy, settle down.

I simply said plastic because for the average home owner when you look at the yellow pipe it looks like its just made of plastic however on the inside its steel.

I settled a long while ago, had a wife and kids . Now I shake my stick at youngins from my porch.
Yes stainless steel. Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing aka CSST.
The average homeowner shouldn't be meddling with such things if they are unable to properly identify them let alone picking what to use in what instance.
That's why I go to a surgeon to have the doohickey removed or the diddly enhanced, and even then there's no guarantees...lol.

dilligafeh wrote: ↑ I settled a long while ago, had a wife and kids . Now I shake my stick at youngins from my porch.

Lmao!

newlyborn wrote: ↑ You can get the gas line done after you take possession if you want to save money. It’s easier to do especially when the basement is unfinished. There is not much mess made after the floors are finished. To give you a rough idea here is the gas line installation cost - 350 for first 10 feet and than 10 dollors foot after.

Is it common to extend a pipe from the furnace to the stoves (upstairs and downstairs, they are just above each other on different floors) or the stoves need their own line?

Generally, there is a mainline that comes to the furnace ( 3/4 or 1") which is branched off to furnace ( 1/2") . Gas line extension should be ran where there branch starts from main line. Ideally you should not make another branch from furnace line. Was I able to explain or does it make sense? If not I can try to include pictures in next post.

CuriousC wrote: ↑ Is it common to extend a pipe from the furnace to the stoves (upstairs and downstairs, they are just above each other on different floors) or the stoves need their own line?

CuriousC wrote: ↑ Is it common to extend a pipe from the furnace to the stoves (upstairs and downstairs, they are just above each other on different floors) or the stoves need their own line?

It was explained to me that you can branch a pipe so long as with everything burning full steam you dont exceed the capacity for the pipe.

So my furnace room has 1”, of which is branched the furnace, a fireplace, and a tank water heater. To get a tankless water heater I would need to bring in a new pipe to the furnace room.

I also have a BBQ/patio heater line at 3/4”, which if I ever add a stand up patio heater (i have a patio flame from Napoleon) I would need to make that line 1”.

Garage heater I ran 3/4” for a possible 75k BTU heater. And I also have a second fireplace line run directly from the meter as well. 5 original gas appliances, I added 3 since living there.

To OP... I had my gas lines planned and run by a gas fitter with a tag that was a friend of my Dad’s back when they could do side jobs and they were not cheap with black iron. If its $1k from the builder and people think its roughly $500 now, just get it done with the builder. Less headaches later.

Running a gas line from the street to a new house or an existing home without gas is not always as simple as it seems. The local gas utility may offer a cheap rate for a certain distance representing the average connection, but if you exceed that they may charge full rate for the entire length as a custom installation - check your distances and their rules carefully. My brother got slammed with an extra cost that way when they converted from oil heat to gas because it turned out the exact spot they needed to run the gas line had some city-protected trees right in the middle, and they had to go an extra distance around them. It ended up being 10' over the gas utility's standard installation limit.

I paid about $800 to get a gas line put in for a new gas range to replace my broken electric stove. In retrospect, I should have just paid the builder when I got the house built. A couple of reasons.

1. It wasn't that much more. I probably saved $200.
2. For the electric stove, they put in a 220v/30 AMP circuit. The gas stove requires a 120v/15 AMP circuit to run the igniter and electronics. I had to purchase a 220v/30AMP to 120v converter plug, otherwise I would have had to run the plug to the countertop or get a 120v/15 amp circuit installed. Not a big deal. The converter cost me about $37.
3. My first choice installer wanted to install the gas line extension using flexible CSST. I was hoping to have black iron pipe, so I had to ask around for a recommendation for a gas fitter that did black iron pipe gas line installation. The other company did a great job, but since my kitchen was finished, they had to bring the line up through the floor instead of through the wall. They had to drill through the floor and took care not to crack the tiles. Not a big deal since you can't see it once the gas stove is in place.

If I had to do it all over again, I would have paid the $1000 upfront with the home builder. If you do this, pay extra to get a 220v/30 to 50AMp circuit installed along with the 120v/15 amp circuit in case you ever want to switch to induction. I think I read somewhere some induction ranges use up to 50 AMPs. In retrospect, I would have paid the extra $ to get both the gas line and the extra circuits. It would have given me a cleaner look behind the stove and the flexibility to have any range I wanted to in the future. I have a gas range now and happy with it. I probably pay less in energy using gas than the old electric stove. I can't say over the 9 years that I was using the electric stove whether I would have saved $200, but in Ontario, pre-covid, we had time of day electric rates, so I paid even more for cooking during prime time. With gas, you don't have to really worry about that too much, unless you are using a convection oven, where you need to power the oven fan.

And the reason I didn't go with getting the gas line installed with the builder were the same reasons given here. The builder rates were so much higher than after market. I think back in 2010 it was maybe $650 and that still would have been CSST. The other reason was I though I was being smart in saving $1000 and get a better electric range. Well, the electric range was used extensively and one by one the burners gave out. I purchased a $1000 electric range back in 2010, I replaced it with a $1000 gas range, and paid another $800 for the gas line install and the gas connector line from the floor valve to the back of the stove. Did I really save any $.TBH, it doesn't matter now, I'm happy with my gas range.

I didn't realize back then the installation of a gas line would cause me grief as I search endlessly for a gas fitter that would use black iron pipe. Whether I saved any money in the end. Who knows and it's all good now. I'm happier using gas. Maybe in the future, I'll switch over to induction, but I think I would have to upgrade my 30AMP to 50 AMP. I don't know too much about induction range power requirements, so I've leave that for the future.

Are you saving much by using gas instead of electricity for preparing your food ?

https://home.howstuffworks.com/gas-vs-e ... you%20cook.

Generally, you'll spend $650 to $2,800 for an electric stove, and $800 to $2,300 for a gas stove, according to Consumer Reports.

so best case scenario you need 2 years to recoup your costs and this does not include the fact that you need a new stove (or two)

Yes, we cook a lot, a family of 6 and it feels like we're constantly cooking like a restaurant . My family cooks regardless of the time of day. . With the time of day electricity pricing in Ontario, it's probably even more with electricity. Gas doesn't have time of day pricing

They say a gas stove usually last 15 years so maybe there's a win in durability. In terms of spills and splatter, I would say gas is slightly messier than electric coils.

Maybe I would have save money on electricity, but whatever I would have save, I would have paid the gas man instead. Not sure, the family cooks so much, I just gave up trying to get them to conserve.

It's all good now. happy wife, happy life. :S