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How often should one replace winter tires (Michelin x-ice xi3)

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Gutty96 wrote: I typically go 3 winters then replace on my commuter. The armada goes 5+ but doesn't put many miles on it.
Are you selling your tires after? If not, I guarantee the shop you're using is once you leave.
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Sinasta wrote: Are you selling your tires after? If not, I guarantee the shop you're using is once you leave.
No, they are pretty much done. I have a good size commute. 3 winters pretty much does them in. Sometimes I will start the 4th winter just to see how it goes and change to new if weather gets bad, but ride it out if it is a light winter. That is my plan for next fall, as my Continentals are just finishing winter #3.
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I'm going to install new winter tires on Nov.2019.
Can i keep drive current winter tires this summer ?
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Ahtusavis wrote: I'm going to install new winter tires on Nov.2019.
Can i keep drive current winter tires this summer ?
Yeah they will just wear fast and won't be as good as summers.

Parents used to keep winters on the Kia year round because it rarely gets driven in the summer (they have "fun" cars) but is a DD when the weather gets cold aka from Nov-April. No problems whatsoever.
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RigorMortis wrote: My wife has the michelin x-ice xi3 tires on her forester (225/60r17). Has been driving on them for 2 maybe 2 seasons and a bit. The tires are no where near expiry based on their dot dates and she drives approximately 20 km/day for 4-5 days/week for roughly 6 months (october to march).

Based on rough estimation of typical driving distances and frequency, the tires have seen roughly 5000 km of use by the end of this winter season.

Time to replace come next winter (safety if the top priority here) or is it safe to assume the tires should last another season or 2? The vehicle/tires are parked in an insulated garage for the majority of the day with the exception of 2-3 hrs for 4-5 days/week when she drives out for errands etc.

Try another 4-5 years at that rate
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Rather than create a new thread I thought I'd ask my related question here. I'm timing out on my xIce winters and will replace them next winter season. Looks like I'm the minority here as I've used them for 8 seasons or so, very little mileage, stored indoors, climate controlled, and well within the tread limits. When people replace their winters that they've end-of-lifed, do you also replace the rims (mine are basic steelies) at the same time? I will take a closer look when I get them back but they appear to just have surface rust.
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Ahtusavis wrote: I'm going to install new winter tires on Nov.2019.
Can i keep drive current winter tires this summer ?
I wouldn't. Winter tires are not made to be driven in hot weather because of the soft rubber compound. You'd compromise handling and braking distance.
If you feel safe to drive with winter tires in the summer, it's your choice.
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This was my 6th winter with studs, and they still have a lot of tread. Im running them out or they get dried out.
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Webhead wrote: I wouldn't. Winter tires are not made to be driven in hot weather because of the soft rubber compound. You'd compromise handling and braking distance.
If you feel safe to drive with winter tires in the summer, it's your choice.
Agree.. Its no where near as bad as summer tires in the winter, but far from ideal. My parents have a little SUV that basically never gets driven in the summer (they have nice summer-only convertibles) and they leave the winters on some years. They wear out quicker and handling is worse, but if its just to grab groceries or the odd trip it's not so bad.
barold wrote: Rather than create a new thread I thought I'd ask my related question here. I'm timing out on my xIce winters and will replace them next winter season. Looks like I'm the minority here as I've used them for 8 seasons or so, very little mileage, stored indoors, climate controlled, and well within the tread limits. When people replace their winters that they've end-of-lifed, do you also replace the rims (mine are basic steelies) at the same time? I will take a closer look when I get them back but they appear to just have surface rust.
Usually you don't unless there's a problem with them (damaged, bent, or most often rusted). If the steeles are rusted badly or ugly looking i'd personally replace them so that they look nicer, but if they're in good condition i wouldn't hesitate to reuse them.
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WikkiWikki wrote: This was my 6th winter with studs, and they still have a lot of tread. Im running them out or they get dried out.
Wow this thread is making me reconsider. I am on my 8th year this year with my hankook studded winter tires and the depth is still good. I feel like it'll be a waste to replace it. They still work great on winter
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casperr wrote: Wow this thread is making me reconsider. I am on my 8th year this year with my hankook studded winter tires and the depth is still good. I feel like it'll be a waste to replace it. They still work great on winter
Im using mine this winter again, with the lockdown driving will be less anyway.

Everytime I get them swapped, they never say there are issues
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RigorMortis wrote: My wife has the michelin x-ice xi3 tires on her forester (225/60r17). Has been driving on them for 2 maybe 2 seasons and a bit. The tires are no where near expiry based on their dot dates and she drives approximately 20 km/day for 4-5 days/week for roughly 6 months (october to march).

Based on rough estimation of typical driving distances and frequency, the tires have seen roughly 5000 km of use by the end of this winter season.

Time to replace come next winter (safety if the top priority here) or is it safe to assume the tires should last another season or 2? The vehicle/tires are parked in an insulated garage for the majority of the day with the exception of 2-3 hrs for 4-5 days/week when she drives out for errands etc.
I would suggest the following:

- Examine your tires for any cuts and cracks. If they are damaged (especially on the sidewall) they might need replacement. If they look in good shape after this check:

- Buy a tread depth gauge sold for about $6

- Measure the tire tread across all areas of the tire and all tires. Transport Canada suggests a Minimum 5/32" on the tread at the START of the winter so that there is enough bite to grip the snow. If the tread depth is that or lower, it would be wise to replace them.

- Remember that even a decent quality winter tire with 5/32" tread will be much better than any all season tire that has 5/32" depth. In fact, a winter tire with 50% tire wear stops better than a NEW All Season tire.

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- Here is a good article about replacing winter tires from Kaltire: https://info.kaltire.com/replace-winter-tires/

Note that they used 12/32" as a new tire and they suggest replacing it at 7/32" which I think might be too early (but good for them as they are selling tires).
The X-Ice xi3 has a new tire tread of 10.5/32" so the calculations work out as follows:

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