How was your visit at the dentist

Aerosol suction device ? If they put it right beside the area of operation it'll suck in all the fine aerosol. That's what scientists are worry about with regards to Covid transmission, the really fine aerosol that can travel distances >2m. By reducing it around the source it should drop the risk of transmission, by how many % ... who knows, but the concept makes sense. The device most probably have a HEPA filter/UV light combo in there.

coilz wrote: ↑Aerosol suction device ? If they put it right beside the area of operation it'll suck in all the fine aerosol. That's what scientists are worry about with regards to Covid transmission, the really fine aerosol that can travel distances >2m. By reducing it around the source it should drop the risk of transmission, by how many % ... who knows, but the concept makes sense. The device most probably have a HEPA filter/UV light combo in there.

Yes it does say hepa on the device but realistically how can the dentist do his artistic work with this covering my face? I think still there will be fine aerosol that will not get sucked. Instead fine aerosol stuck on his gloves, sleeves, picks, the room, etc....

cristianosham wrote: ↑ Yes it does say hepa on the device but realistically how can the dentist do his artistic work with this covering my face? I think still there will be fine aerosol that will not get sucked. Instead fine aerosol stuck on his gloves, sleeves, picks, the room, etc....

It'll be placed next to your mouth/face not interfering with the field of view of the dentist obviously. It's like putting a fan next to you instead of right in front of you. You affect the air flow around the immediate vicinity of the aerosol source, get it before it spreads. Of course it'll not be 100% since nothing is "perfect", but the hope is there is a significant enough reduction. If it's stuck on an object it's no longer an aerosol. That's why the dentist change gloves, change and sterilize all used instruments , spray disinfectant and wipe down surfaces between patients. Some jurisdiction is mandating " settling" time after appointments for aerosols to settle between using each room, the thinking behind it is you wait for the aerosol to fall down with time and gravity and then you can disinfect the surface it lands on. But it's mostly via common sense/logical thinking and not peer review research since Covid aerosol travel/transmission is still new and peer review data is lacking right now. I am sure in a few months/years there will be more and more articles and data coming out with respect to covid aerosol transmission.

Will all these combine to 100% eliminate the chance of possible covid/disease transmission, probably not, since nothing is 100% certain. It's between what's economically feasible and realistically possible to lower the risk enough so things will keep running.

Anyone know where can we get more information about this equipment? I think it will work.

cristianosham wrote: ↑ I was shocked at what this gizmo during my trip to the dentist. I highly doubt it scientifically proven to work.
Your thoughts?

82 wrote: ↑ Anyone know where can we get more information about this equipment? I think it will work.

I am still skeptical, ever experience when they blast air or clean your teeth all this aerosol stuff just explodes like a grenade everywhere. So the suction has to overcome it.

82 wrote: ↑ Anyone know where can we get more information about this equipment? I think it will work.

It's purpose is to suck in fine aerosol the type that floats and travels, big splatter is... big.. so it drops to the ground right away. It's true none of these are certified by any regulatory bodies, or have any data that it'll work. Its more via common sense and logical thinking that if you suck in the fine mist aerosol, you eliminate it from traveling around. Offers a peace of mind too.

Here's a link to a machine that looks similar.
https://www.vaniman.com/product/gold-mo ... l-suction/

edit: you tube video of the ad for product :

Pretty cool technology! My dentist doesn’t have this... yet I pay a lot of moola for a cleaning

Our insurance has notified us that any covid extra charges the dentist bills us will NOT be covered. They have had ZERO dental or health or travel claims for more than 6 months, no refunds, and yet they have the balls to not cover extra ppe charges. There is so much they don't cover it's hardly worth the premium as it is.

George613 wrote: ↑ Our insurance has notified us that any covid extra charges the dentist bills us will NOT be covered. They have had ZERO dental or health or travel claims for more than 6 months, no refunds, and yet they have the balls to not cover extra ppe charges. There is so much they don't cover it's hardly worth the premium as it is.

Which provider is that?

name & shame

Anyone went to see the dentist for a cleaning recently? How was the experience?
Thanks.

investnewbie wrote: ↑ Anyone went to see the dentist for a cleaning recently? How was the experience?
Thanks.

was pretty much standard. Wear the mask everywhere except on the chair.
Then make you rinse your mouse with peroxide. That's all.

- stop at door, reception comes to take temperature
- had to answer Covid-19 questions and sign off doc
- I waited while standing, didn't want to sit on chairs
- all staff had mask and face shield
- taken to room, given hand sanitiser, peroxide rinse
- mask off, examination, mask back on
- kept my safety glasses on
- mask off, had 2 fillings with minimum suction
- quick rinse into disposable cup
- mask back on and leave to pay
- noticed only 2 rooms were occupied

It was alright but they are trying to get me to do twice as many cleanings in a year now vs before, which is annoying because I never have cavities etc and my teeth are always fine. No need for too many cleanings except to empty my pocket book.

Catnippy wrote: ↑ - stop at door, reception comes to take temperature
- had to answer Covid-19 questions and sign off doc
- I waited while standing, didn't want to sit on chairs
- all staff had mask and face shield
- taken to room, given hand sanitiser, peroxide rinse
- mask off, examination, mask back on
- kept my safety glasses on
- mask off, had 2 fillings with minimum suction
- quick rinse into disposable cup
- mask back on and leave to pay
- noticed only 2 rooms were occupied

Very similar experience.

Dentist also had the air suction machine, HEPA machine, and plastic sheeting on the computer, keyboard, and the overhead lamp.

I wore latex gloves and a hoody zipped up during cleaning. Prior to re-entering the car, took off hoody, flipped if inside out and stuffed it into a bag.

investnewbie wrote: ↑ Anyone went to see the dentist for a cleaning recently? How was the experience?
Thanks.

For me, it was pretty standard EXCEPT
1) face mask was required to enter and to keep it on at all times while waiting
2) asked to use hand sanitizer after entering
3) they took my temperature when I entered and asked me questions about my current health (fever, coughing, loss of taste, etc.) and any recent travel
4) no one was in the waiting room (normally there is at least one person/family waiting at my dentist's office when I've shown up in the past)
5) was given something to rinse my mouth at the beginning of the appointment and told not to use the sink to spit it out in but to use the cup
6) they turned on what appeared to be some air filtration system in the actual examination room while I was there
7) when scheduling my 6 month follow-up cleaning while I was paying my bill, the availability times were more restrictive (probably in order to be sure that the earlier patient left prior to me showing up and that they could do a proper/better cleaning)

After the cleaning, used the sink to wipe any blood from the front of my face/mouth and put my face mask back on and went to the front to pay and schedule my next appointment

George613 wrote: ↑Our insurance has notified us that any covid extra charges the dentist bills us will NOT be covered. They have had ZERO dental or health or travel claims for more than 6 months, no refunds, and yet they have the balls to not cover extra ppe charges. There is so much they don't cover it's hardly worth the premium as it is.

Spinner wrote: ↑
Which provider is that?

TomDrake81 wrote: ↑ name & shame

I believe that my work insurance wouldn't cover an COVID-19 extra charges if it appeared in my dentists' bill as well since the coverage only applies to certain dental procedures and their costs and doesn't cover things which aren't considered dental procedures.

Since my dentist didn't charge anything "extra" on the bill specifically related to COVID-19 additional safety measures (but I noticed the bill was higher due to the increase in price for the dental procedures), nothing really changed for me.

Since I don't have any definite proof that my work insurance won't cover it but highly suspect that they wouldn't, there is no point in me naming them.

lmcjipo wrote: ↑ I believe that my work insurance wouldn't cover an COVID-19 extra charges if it appeared in my dentists' bill as well since the coverage only applies to certain dental procedures and their costs and doesn't cover things which aren't considered dental procedures.

Since my dentist didn't charge anything "extra" on the bill specifically related to COVID-19 additional safety measures (but I noticed the bill was higher due to the increase in price for the dental procedures), nothing really changed for me.

Since I don't have any definite proof that my work insurance won't cover it but highly suspect that they wouldn't, there is no point in me naming them.

Our dental insurance only covers things according to some fee schedule that is from years ago hence they always underpay based on their own schedule not on what we actually pay.

If the dentist charges x for a procedure our insurance pays 80% of y regardless of what we paid. The other 20% is our copay. On major restorative it is only 50% and again is always a lot less than half of what we actually paid. Such a scam.