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Omen by HP- Ryzen 1700, GTX 1070, 16GB, 1TB/256GB SSD - $1550 - 12% Ebates

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Btw, I couldn't find the $1399 i7 Aurora so had to ask from chat for the link who quickly provided the link which I forgot to save to post here.
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X24Secret wrote: Took a lot of willpower to hold off on this for the past few days. The 1070, 16GB RAM and the NVMe SSD at this pricepoint was basically unheard of but the biggest issue was that Ryzen CPU which will undoubtedly bottleneck before the 1070... Whoever configured this PC was an idiot, they should have put in a 1060 and shave off some $ from the price.

I ended up with the Dell Aurora deal in the flyer that went live this morning. Unfortunately Dell clamped down on the EPP/MPP codes (they were fine up to yesterday) but i7 8700 + 1060 + 8GB at $1399 is still ok. I ended up putting in an NVMe 256GB so total at $1550 before 8% CB and Dell promo card.
I find the slower ram ddr2400 vs DDR 3000 or 3200 would hold back the Ryzen.
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X24Secret wrote: Took a lot of willpower to hold off on this for the past few days. The 1070, 16GB RAM and the NVMe SSD at this pricepoint was basically unheard of but the biggest issue was that Ryzen CPU which will undoubtedly bottleneck before the 1070... Whoever configured this PC was an idiot, they should have put in a 1060 and shave off some $ from the price.

I ended up with the Dell Aurora deal in the flyer that went live this morning. Unfortunately Dell clamped down on the EPP/MPP codes (they were fine up to yesterday) but i7 8700 + 1060 + 8GB at $1399 is still ok. I ended up putting in an NVMe 256GB so total at $1550 before 8% CB and Dell promo card.
With regards to the 7 1700 bottlenecking before the 1070, do you have benchmark info related to that? When researching, most of the benchmarks I looked at (comparing Ryzen 1700 to Intel 7700) using a GTX 1070, showed only a few fps difference, for 1440 gaming. When moving to a GTX 1080 then the CPU definitely started to make more of a difference. Originally I was a bit hesitant because of the Ryzen, but when I realized how much better performance it gives for multi-core workloads, it was the better choice for me. If you were looking to shave off some $$ in your build, isn't the 8700 a huge overkill for a 1060? Though it does provide for nice future upgrade path.
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MikeyCanuck wrote: It's not ALWAYS the case that a self-build is cheaper. I've built my last 3 PCs. I used PC part picker this time as a comparison and I really couldn't come close to the same price as the HP with the ebates discount.
There's a reason for that though. These prebuilds cut corners everywhere they can and you'll most definitely be getting poor quality off brand components for stuff like PSU, RAM, motherboard, cabling etc which are far more likely to develop problems compared to hand picked quality components. These deals look good on paper until you dig deeper and realize that everything outside of the CPU and GPU is poor quality no name parts

If you're not up for assembling yourself, many stores these days offer cheap assembly service for custom builds. It is far better to go that route than buy a build filled with off brand parts from HP or whoever
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ReeGee wrote: There's a reason for that though. These prebuilds cut corners everywhere they can and you'll most definitely be getting poor quality off brand components for stuff like PSU, RAM, motherboard, cabling etc which are far more likely to develop problems compared to hand picked quality components. These deals look good on paper until you dig deeper and realize that everything outside of the CPU and GPU is poor quality no name parts

If you're not up for assembling yourself, many stores these days offer cheap assembly service for custom builds. It is far better to go that route than buy a build filled with off brand parts from HP or whoever
I hear you on the not being able to pick our own quality components, but as you suggest, there's a cost to it. Well... I guess for me it's an experiment NOT building my own this time and the deal was too good to pass up. Time will tell =)
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Would this OMEN 880-029: http://store.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/P ... BL&sel=DTP have been a decent second choice since I missed out on the first deal? $150 more for 1 extra TB and i7 7700 instead of the Ryzen. Obviously I would have chosen the deal OP posted but would this be the next best prebuilt offer available with a GTX 1070?
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kevjp13 wrote: Would this OMEN 880-029: http://store.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/P ... BL&sel=DTP have been a decent second choice since I missed out on the first deal? $150 more for 1 extra TB and i7 7700 instead of the Ryzen. Obviously I would have chosen the deal OP posted but would this be the next best prebuilt offer available with a GTX 1070?
If you want that one, get it from BestBuy instead: it's $1800 vs $1700 from HP, yes, but you get a Mixed VR Helmet that costs 600$ separately which you can always sell.

EDIT: Though it appears you'll have to get it in store, since it is OOS online.
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kevjp13 wrote: Would this OMEN 880-029: http://store.hp.com/CanadaStore/Merch/P ... BL&sel=DTP have been a decent second choice since I missed out on the first deal? $150 more for 1 extra TB and i7 7700 instead of the Ryzen. Obviously I would have chosen the deal OP posted but would this be the next best prebuilt offer available with a GTX 1070?
I saw that Omen 880-029 as well and thought it would be reasonable for $150 extra when I was thinking of Intel over AMD, BUT, if you look closely, it doesn't list a GTX1070 as being included. Instead it shows Intel® HD Graphics 630. I don't know why... but it's approximately +$500 to add a 1070 if it's not being included and that's what you are looking for. Not a deal then IMO... It could be a description error as well because model 880-029 advertised elsewhere has a 1070...
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MikeyCanuck wrote: I saw that Omen 880-029 as well and thought it would be reasonable for $150 extra when I was thinking of Intel over AMD, BUT, if you look closely, it doesn't list a GTX1070 as being included. Instead it shows Intel® HD Graphics 630. I don't know why... but it's approximately +$500 to add a 1070 if it's not being included and that's what you are looking for. Not a deal then IMO... It could be a description error as well because model 880-029 advertised elsewhere has a 1070...
If you check the specs the GTX 1070 is there. It's the same as the OMEN 880-029 on sale at Best Buy for $1799 (you get a VR headset at Best Buy as well though but no ebates). Dell also has this one: http://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/cty/pdp/ ... se_fsb_h6e for the same price as the OMEN 880-029 (only 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, but i7 8700).
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kevjp13 wrote: If you check the specs the GTX 1070 is there. It's the same as the OMEN 880-029 on sale at Best Buy for $1799 (you get a VR headset at Best Buy as well though but no ebates). Dell also has this one: http://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/cty/pdp/ ... se_fsb_h6e for the same price as the OMEN 880-029 (only 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD, but i7 8700).
So it does. I didn't see the + to expand the technical specs. That makes much more sense, I couldn't figure why it would be missing from the 880-029 model.
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Guys, Dell's EPP/MPP is back on and generating codes!!! That's another 5% + 8% CB + 3% promo card. I just re-did my order for almost $100 additional off.
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X24Secret wrote: Guys, Dell's EPP/MPP is back on and generating codes!!! That's another 5% + 8% CB + 3% promo card. I just re-did my order for almost $100 additional off.
Could you share info related to these % discounts? The only one I'm familiar with is the 8% ebates. Thanks!
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X24Secret wrote: Guys, Dell's EPP/MPP is back on and generating codes!!! That's another 5% + 8% CB + 3% promo card. I just re-did my order for almost $100 additional off.
Yeah I saw that as well. Debating now between these two:

OMEN 880-029 - i7 7700, 16GB ram, 2TB HD ~ about $1730 after tax and discounts (ordered already just in case)
XPS 8930 - i7 8700, 8GB ram, 1TB HD ~ about $1650 after tax and discounts

Both have GTX 1070 & 256GB SSD.

Assuming the 1TB HD difference is not that important, can anyone weigh on which deal they consider better? Or if there are any better prebuilt deals with a 1070?
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MikeyCanuck wrote: Could you share info related to these % discounts? The only one I'm familiar with is the 8% ebates. Thanks!
You need to check to see if your or a family member's employer participates in MPP/EPP price discount eith Dell. A lot of the companies use Perkopis so that's a good starting point. Almost all 'big' companies or those who buy a lot of Dell computers participate so if you work for a company with 1000+ employees chances are you can sign up and get instructions on how to access your specific discount code generator for the 5% off. This stacks with every other discount and/or CB so it's very hot.

For 3% epromo card you join dell advantage for free and you will get a promo card worth 3% of your $100+ purchase about 1-2 months after your order which you can use on a future purchase whit in a time limit.

I redid my order for the Aurora: i7 8700 / 16 GB / 256Mb NVMe + 2 TB / 1060 6GB for $1600 + HST flat - 8% CB - 3% promo card.

I know 1060 is the bottleneck but it leaves room for me for a future upgrade in a couple of years maybe. The upgrade to 1070 would have been about $190 (After EPP/MPP code).
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I had filled out my company email, but I did not receive any code. How long it takes to get the code?
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npng007 wrote: I had filled out my company email, but I did not receive any code. How long it takes to get the code?
The EPP/MPP site, once accessed, generates codes instantly. You're likely gonna have to wait till your registration is processed by someone in the MPP department. They have an email address for inquisries.

If you have access to Perkopolis you don't need to separately register with Dell, you just click through Perkopolis for access.
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kevjp13 wrote: Yeah I saw that as well. Debating now between these two:

OMEN 880-029 - i7 7700, 16GB ram, 2TB HD ~ about $1730 after tax and discounts (ordered already just in case)
XPS 8930 - i7 8700, 8GB ram, 1TB HD ~ about $1650 after tax and discounts

Both have GTX 1070 & 256GB SSD.

Assuming the 1TB HD difference is not that important, can anyone weigh on which deal they consider better? Or if there are any better prebuilt deals with a 1070?
The difference between 7700 and 8700 is pretty big. Two additional cores and 4 more threads plus generational optimization is pretty important and can futureproof much longer.
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if i was going for xps or omen id go 8700k all day!
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What is the motherboard in Bestbuy HP omen?
Can it support the future upgrade for 8700k and gtx1080/1080ti ? Thanks

HP OMEN Gaming PC (Intel Core i7-7700/2TB HDD/256GB SSD/16GB RAM/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070/Win 10)

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