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Mar 27th, 2022 5:36 am
DealzToronto [OP]
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Mar 27th, 2022 5:36 am

Hybrid vs Non: New Car Purchase 2022

So it’s time to buy a new car.
The one I want is a 4 cylinder suv all gas.
With gas prices the way they are would it may be crazy not to buy a Hybrid? The only hybrid that comes to mind that fits my needs is the RAV4. Wish it was more exciting.
I supposed it’s all personal preference, but what are peoples thought on gas prices over the next few years?
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:35 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:35 am

DealzToronto wrote: ↑ So it’s time to buy a new car.
The one I want is a 4 cylinder suv all gas.
With gas prices the way they are would it may be crazy not to buy a Hybrid? The only hybrid that comes to mind that fits my needs is the RAV4. Wish it was more exciting.
I supposed it’s all personal preference, but what are peoples thought on gas prices over the next few years?
Though on gas prices in the coming years ? Only God knows !
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:48 am
btwitsmatt
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:48 am

elpaso wrote: ↑ Though on gas prices in the coming years ? Only God knows !
In the same boat as you… considering the RAV4 hybrid, CX5 or CRV. I’m either holding out for a hybrid rav4 or waiting it out. Gas prices will only go up in the future and seeing as you’re looking at a Toyota and keeping it a while then it makes sense.
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:56 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:56 am

I think gas prices will be higher in the next 5 years than they were in the last 5 years. This will be due in part to policymakers pushing to decrease reliance on gas and other fossil fuels.

Keep in mind, hybrids save a fair bit of fuel for city driving, but the difference on the highway is much smaller.

Also, hybrids are more expensive. However, the up charge is a lot easier to justify at $2/L than $1/L. How high will gas prices be? We can’t say exactly, so it’s hard to say exactly how much $ a hybrid might, or might not save you.

Finally, hybrids are in short supply right now. You might have to wait a while for one. Though, that is true for any high demand vehicle right now.
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:57 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 7:57 am

Buying a hybrid/PHEV/EV is at a premium right now. All due to the supply chain issues. If you can wait it out X months then do it.
There are used hybrids/PHEV/EVs out there but again, there's a premium to them. I personally couldn't convince myself to purchase 2018 RAV4 hybrid for 40K (before taxes) to offset $20-30 at the gas pump.

My choice was a smaller ICE car (Mazda 3 sport) on a lease. Hoping that things would change when my lease comes to an end and possibly go full EV. There is stock available, you just have to keep your expectations in check. I actually just filled my first tank on my m3sport, was like $60. A lot more manageable cost/KM wise.
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Mar 27th, 2022 9:18 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 9:18 am

Same situation as you. Initially had a deposit for a model y but my family’s current car crapped out now so I couldn’t wait. We ended up in a Hyundai dealership and with our luck found 2 new tuscon hybrids. We purchased the ultimate trim. They still had a luxury trim which is 3k cheaper. You’ll be paying msrp there are no deals to be had. But I assume gas will not get any cheaper so we pulled the trigger.
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Mar 27th, 2022 9:44 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 9:44 am

Same boat as you... trying to decided if I am going to go new or used. As the other post above me wrote both I am going to end paying premium prices. subscribed
Mar 27th, 2022 9:46 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 9:46 am

Mylocosta wrote: ↑ Same situation as you. Initially had a deposit for a model y but my family’s current car crapped out now so I couldn’t wait. We ended up in a Hyundai dealership and with our luck found 2 new tuscon hybrids. We purchased the ultimate trim. They still had a luxury trim which is 3k cheaper. You’ll be paying msrp there are no deals to be had. But I assume gas will not get any cheaper so we pulled the trigger.
Mind sharing how much was the Tucson OTD price? What province are you? Thanks in advance
Mar 27th, 2022 10:02 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 10:02 am

ToDealHunter wrote: ↑ Mind sharing how much was the Tucson OTD price? What province are you? Thanks in advance
Yea msrp was around 43k I added a couple of extras the car with tax tax in 52.
Now yes it’s more then I would like but I wanted new as there is also a premium for used. And needing a car asap for the wife and kids I pulled the trigger. Again this is the ultimate trim which is the highest one for the Tucson.
If I recall the luxury was around 3 grand less.

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Mar 27th, 2022 10:14 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 10:14 am

rkjredflag wrote: ↑ I think gas prices will be higher in the next 5 years than they were in the last 5 years. This will be due in part to policymakers pushing to decrease reliance on gas and other fossil fuels.

Keep in mind, hybrids save a fair bit of fuel for city driving, but the difference on the highway is much smaller.

Also, hybrids are more expensive. However, the up charge is a lot easier to justify at $2/L than $1/L. How high will gas prices be? We can’t say exactly, so it’s hard to say exactly how much $ a hybrid might, or might not save you.

Finally, hybrids are in short supply right now. You might have to wait a while for one. Though, that is true for any high demand vehicle right now.
Thanks a good point. I actually don’t drive as much city as most of you might am able to walk to work. More like for groceries less than 500km a month in city and say 1000kms highway (in summer).

I think the vehicle I want is 8.2 highway but many reports of people getting better. I believe the Rav is rated 6.4 highway? In my case I guess the savings isn’t massive to justify the hybrid (the car that Is my second choice).

I think I will still always be thinking hybrid tho when I am at the pumps, hence why I posted this to hear all your opinions.
Mar 27th, 2022 10:19 am
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Mar 27th, 2022 10:19 am

With Hybrids, they are decent vehicles if you are willing to pay the upfront premium and if you don't keep the vehicles past the battery warranty period. Battery packs on the Hybrids can easily cost $5K which will negate the costs of the fuel savings. Also, Hybrid components when they fail can be very expensive to repair vs. similar components for a Fuel only version of the vehicle.

I'd encourage that you watch this video as it will give you some ideas of costs on the Toyota products, as well as who should get Hybrids. Note, that the reviewer is a Mechanic for Toyota so there may be some bias in their reporting:

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Mar 28th, 2022 2:40 am
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Mar 28th, 2022 2:40 am

Mylocosta wrote: ↑ Same situation as you. Initially had a deposit for a model y but my family’s current car crapped out now so I couldn’t wait. We ended up in a Hyundai dealership and with our luck found 2 new tuscon hybrids. We purchased the ultimate trim. They still had a luxury trim which is 3k cheaper. You’ll be paying msrp there are no deals to be had. But I assume gas will not get any cheaper so we pulled the trigger.
How much you paying for the Tucson? I thought they were expensive.
Mar 28th, 2022 8:56 am
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Mar 28th, 2022 8:56 am

spike1128 wrote: ↑ How much you paying for the Tucson? I thought they were expensive.
Mylocosta wrote: ↑ Yea msrp was around 43k I added a couple of extras the car with tax tax in 52.
Now yes it’s more then I would like but I wanted new as there is also a premium for used. And needing a car asap for the wife and kids I pulled the trigger. Again this is the ultimate trim which is the highest one for the Tucson.
If I recall the luxury was around 3 grand less.

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