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I’m really worried about getting approved for a mortgage

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[OP]
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Mar 24, 2022
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I’m really worried about getting approved for a mortgage

I feel like I did something stupid and need advice or reassurance if everything is ok.

Partner and I bought a new build house in Kingston (just outside of it) last year when rates were lower and it’s closing this fall (rates rising). I’m worried about the rates and if we’ll now qualify for a mortgage.

Here’s our numbers:

House price: $862k
Down payment: $297k (gave 40k to builder already)
Mortgage needed: $560k
Property taxes: should be less than 6k but I think the lenders will use 1% of purchase price as the property has not been assessed yet from MPAC (new build).
My salary: $77,600 (perm gov job)
Partners salary: $65,500 (perm gov job)
My credit: 830/830 - perfect credit, long history
Partners credit: 699EQ/779TU, only 2.5 years of credit history and only has one credit card on file 6500 limit. Partner did pay off student loans which appears as well as Rogers cell phone bills. Partner does have 3 credit cards but only 1 is appearing (Neo and Flexity don’t report to the bureaus apparently).
We have no debts.
We will also have approx. 30k in extra savings for closing costs.

Given the rate increases and my partners (lack of) credit history, will we have any troubles securing a mortgage for our closing this fall? I’m aiming to lock something in for Aug/Sept ish. We are now just worried about rising interest rates. Surely an alternate or B lender will lend to us right, obviously hoping for an A lender.

I did a few calculations on our GDS, and at the stress test rate of 5.25% for 30 year amortization, our GDS would be about 32.8%. But what happens if rates increase another 3%? Would that even be possible?

What do I do for some peace of mind?

Thanks a lot everyone!

Signed - not sleeping at night, stressed and anxious :(
33 replies
Newbie
Jan 17, 2022
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Honestly, you have nothing to worry about…
[OP]
Jr. Member
Mar 24, 2022
116 posts
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21ghost wrote: Honestly, you have nothing to worry about…
Honestly?

Thanks so much for this, every comment like this helps. :)
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You're fine. Well within the debt ratios.
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Dec 1, 2013
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The rough rule is income times 4, and with no debts I'd be shocked if you had trouble securing an approval for that mortgage with an A lender let alone a B lender. Rest easy.
[OP]
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Mar 24, 2022
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FallThrough wrote: The rough rule is income times 4, and with no debts I'd be shocked if you had trouble securing an approval for that mortgage with an A lender let alone a B lender. Rest easy.
Thanks so much for this :) I’ll try to rest better. I’ve been driving my partner mad. Let’s hope we make it to closing.
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Jan 13, 2021
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Relax. You're totally fine. Rates will not raise anything close to what would make you ineligible.
Deal Addict
Jan 5, 2020
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Don't need to worry at all.

But I just hope that you didn't by this place thinking that WFH will be forever. Hopefully your commutes will be reasonable.
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synthetic1 wrote: Relax. You're totally fine. Rates will not raise anything close to what would make you ineligible.
You sure? Almost $1m for Kingston. Gotdamn I hope it’s a nice house.
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espressoObsessed wrote: I feel like I did something stupid and need advice or reassurance if everything is ok.

Partner and I bought a new build house in Kingston (just outside of it) last year when rates were lower and it’s closing this fall (rates rising). I’m worried about the rates and if we’ll now qualify for a mortgage.

Here’s our numbers:

House price: $862k
Down payment: $297k (gave 40k to builder already)
Mortgage needed: $560k
Property taxes: should be less than 6k but I think the lenders will use 1% of purchase price as the property has not been assessed yet from MPAC (new build).
My salary: $77,600 (perm gov job)
Partners salary: $65,500 (perm gov job)
My credit: 830/830 - perfect credit, long history
Partners credit: 699EQ/779TU, only 2.5 years of credit history and only has one credit card on file 6500 limit. Partner did pay off student loans which appears as well as Rogers cell phone bills. Partner does have 3 credit cards but only 1 is appearing (Neo and Flexity don’t report to the bureaus apparently).
We have no debts.
We will also have approx. 30k in extra savings for closing costs.

Given the rate increases and my partners (lack of) credit history, will we have any troubles securing a mortgage for our closing this fall? I’m aiming to lock something in for Aug/Sept ish. We are now just worried about rising interest rates. Surely an alternate or B lender will lend to us right, obviously hoping for an A lender.

I did a few calculations on our GDS, and at the stress test rate of 5.25% for 30 year amortization, our GDS would be about 32.8%. But what happens if rates increase another 3%? Would that even be possible?

What do I do for some peace of mind?

Thanks a lot everyone!

Signed - not sleeping at night, stressed and anxious :(
You are DOOMed! J/K Slightly Smiling Face

Relax.. you have done more than enough analysis than many others...let it ride.
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Jan 31, 2007
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You look good, if you fail with big 5. go to broker they will get you approved 1000% you having no worry about!1
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TBH with those salary numbers you could probably pull a total loan amount in the 750k range (5.5x) with the top 5. With 20% you guys could probably go for up to a mill.
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All good to go!
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Oct 14, 2010
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FallThrough wrote: The rough rule is income times 4, and with no debts I'd be shocked if you had trouble securing an approval for that mortgage with an A lender let alone a B lender. Rest easy.
OP will be fine.

The multiplier of 4 is also old now, I know banks going 6.5x or 7x comfortably on great rates.
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Oct 4, 2009
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Partner should get a real second CC to further help improve credit. Any minor blip from the inquiry would be gone in a few months when you apply for mortgage and it would improve the depth of their credit file.

Unlikely to be an issue either way.
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Mar 30, 2009
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You're good. Doubt you'll have much trouble, and if you do you always have the B lender route.
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S5 wrote: Partner should get a real second CC to further help improve credit. Any minor blip from the inquiry would be gone in a few months when you apply for mortgage and it would improve the depth of their credit file.

Unlikely to be an issue either way.
Wouldn’t getting another credit card be a negative to the bureau?
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Sep 3, 2020
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Banks will take house. They have equity claim. They know what they’re doing.

Congratulations. Your numbers are fine.
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Oct 4, 2009
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JayLove06 wrote: Wouldn’t getting another credit card be a negative to the bureau?
No. Having only one CC makes it a thin file, 2 is better and is recommended for those rebuilding credit before getting a mortgage. Better to do it a year or more before mortgage app but 6 months or so out, it would still be a good idea although considering the OP's credit, should be fine either way.

The few points lost on one bureau for an inquiry quickly come back after only a few months.

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