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I Think My GF Did Not/Has Not Cut Emotional Ties With Ex

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I Think My GF Did Not/Has Not Cut Emotional Ties With Ex

I am not sure where else to post this so hopefully it doesn't get taken down but I really need some perspective. There is a lot of background but I'll do my best to summarize.

We have been dating for 14 months. They have been separated 2 years after a 5yr relationship. I am pretty sure he is a narcissist. She had messed up relationship with this guy, where she looked to him as a parental figure, since her father was never actually a parental figure she could rely on.

The ex has never gotten over the relationship. He hates me and has tried his hardest to drive a wedge in between my gf and I. They had 2 long talks about separation in late 2021, which resulted in a lot of emotions and past relationship stuff coming to the forefront. He has brought up his heartache/past relationship stuff more than I can count since I entered the picture. She has done pretty good to not entertain this for the most part. I have asked her on a couple of different occasions if she has processed the break and she has said yes. She has been comfortable enough in front of him to be upset due to a counseling session and where he hugged her to console and she was not ok with this.

She learned recently that he has been seeing someone for the past 2 months. This caused her to emotionally breakdown. This brought up a host of issues from the past that she's trying to work through right now, When she told me about her emotional breakdown, she told me she has 0 regrets leaving and not in interested in going back. She's wanted him to find someone so he can move on but I think this all turns around if the ex and his new gf fail. I have a feeling he will use my gf for relationship advice. In her current state, I don't think she could shut that down.

I feel like she has tried to convince her self and me that she is over emotionally with him but everything that has transpired indicates otherwise. I had a feeling during the separation talks she had not fully processed the break but the latest major break down has reinforced this.
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Why is she still talking to the ex? Why are still going to counseling sessions together?
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Sounds like she ain't over her ex if she's getting jealous of him seeing someone else. IMO, DUMP HER!!! Don't waste your time.

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In my opinion, unless you have kids together, you shouldn't be talking or hanging out with an ex, specially if you have someone else in your life. If you do, you are just inviting problems. I can assure you, she wouldn`t be okay with this situation if it was you with your ex.
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I forgot to mention that they have kids so they have to stay in contact.
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To clarify, she went to counseling by herself for her own stuff. She just happened to be sad while thinking about the session and he happened to be around
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Oh boy! You're gonna have lots of drama in your relationship. Dump her now, or else it's gonna be too late!

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Cheapo-Findo wrote: Oh boy! You're gonna have lots of drama in your relationship. Dump her now, or else it's gonna be too late!
After being through life. I found that there are a lot of A to be had going around. There is no need to go for baby mamas. I mean that giving up a forest for one tree, or one not so good tree is not worth it.
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theXshape wrote: In my opinion, unless you have kids together, you shouldn't be talking or hanging out with an ex, specially if you have someone else in your life. If you do, you are just inviting problems. I can assure you, she wouldn`t be okay with this situation if it was you with your ex.
This person is 100% spot on.
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The kids do complicate things, but they need better boundaries. Strictly necessary communication about the kids ONLY - things like dropping them off at x time, or if they're sick. No talking about current dates, relationship advice, sharing cute pictures of their kids, etc. Their couples counselling (wtf?) shouldn't be necessary if those rules are met. As time passes, this will reduce the emotional investment in the relationship.

If she's reluctant to do that, she's still emotionally invested, as you've thought... in which case you should probably distance yourself until she's ready and/or look elsewhere. You can always be her "support", but you need to prepare to be hurt later on. You may think it's the noble thing to do, but if you do get hurt (i.e. they decide to "give it another try"), and fallout that happens to you will entirely be your fault, not hers/his.

It's pretty hard to be friends with an ex, let alone one you were with for 5 years, and have kids with. Typically, the only way I think it's possible is if enough time passes & people completely withdraw from each others' lives to allow the emotions to fade completely. In this case, the above is the next best thing.
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Your reaction to the events described seem perfectly normal to me. If after talking with her, you can't find a way to set boundaries, then I suggest you move on from this relationship.

Her reaction can also be considered normal. People got feelings of varying degrees and need time to move on. I don't find it humane or sensible to just tell her to "not have feelings" for him. But at the end of the day, you are you. Do you love her enough to give it more time? If you are resorting to an internet forum to find the answer, I'd suspect no. So please move on.
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Leave now, fast.

I was in a similar situation in my early 20s. Ignored the simple leave advice from people much older than me. When they turned out to be right, I was so damaged for a good year.

In the 2020s you will commonly hear that you shouldn't be insecure and should be cool with all this ex stuff. Dont be insecure, dont be insecure, don't be insecure. This is the biggest pile of doodoo I've heard.

Break it up and move on. It's not a good situation at all.

Edit: holy crap, just read that she is coming off a 5 year stint. Same with mine.
My approach is if you were with someone for more than 3 years and you recently broke up, I aint touching you with a 10 foot pole for at least 2 years. These things end and repair themselves in a matter of months, and the new catch has to bear the brunt of it.

It gets messed up, the ex doesn't know about the new guy, and the new guy doesn't know about the ex. Girls in their 20s play that game like seasoned pros. Its fine and dandy if you are not too invested in it, but if you're in it for the long run it is so not good for your mental health.
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Just leave like the others are saying. She's going to need a lot of time to heal emotionally. Till she heals emotionally she will be too messed up to truly be the partner you want her to be and you might not even have a future with her because she can't give you anything. Depending on her emotional health, she could take years to heal from this.
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Phonophoresis wrote: The kids do complicate things, but they need better boundaries. Strictly necessary communication about the kids ONLY - things like dropping them off at x time, or if they're sick. No talking about current dates, relationship advice, sharing cute pictures of their kids, etc. Their couples counselling (wtf?) shouldn't be necessary if those rules are met. As time passes, this will reduce the emotional investment in the relationship.

If she's reluctant to do that, she's still emotionally invested, as you've thought... in which case you should probably distance yourself until she's ready and/or look elsewhere. You can always be her "support", but you need to prepare to be hurt later on. You may think it's the noble thing to do, but if you do get hurt (i.e. they decide to "give it another try"), and fallout that happens to you will entirely be your fault, not hers/his.

It's pretty hard to be friends with an ex, let alone one you were with for 5 years, and have kids with. Typically, the only way I think it's possible is if enough time passes & people completely withdraw from each others' lives to allow the emotions to fade completely. In this case, the above is the next best thing.
I guess I can request this but I don't know what to do about some nuances. Such as when its his week, she misses the kids. So she visits them a couple of times and once in a while(on his week) drops by her son's martial arts class. They also have divorce matters to talk about and try to sort it out in person once in a while, despite having lawyers.
I have noticed that she has implemented some of this
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Hood_Rep wrote: is she still boning him?

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