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If you do a short trip to the USA, download the ArriveCan app ahead of time!

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If you do a short trip to the USA, download the ArriveCan app ahead of time!

This deserves its own thread. If you're planning a short trip to the USA now that the testing rules for returning Canadians have changed, download the ArriveCan app!!!! I had my federal vaccine QR code and my passport and upon arriving back to the Canadian side (after spending 45 minutes collecting my 3 parcels and getting gas) I was given the option of either going back into the USA and downloading the app and registering the trip, or quarantining for 14 days! Fortunately, I had pre purchased 100mbs of US data 2 years ago as an add-on for my Koodo prepaid plan. Of the 15 or so cars trying to return at the same time as I was, at least 12 were in the same boat as me, scrambling to register in the US after being turned away. It was a nightmare!
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Everyone planning to travel should definitely have ArriveCAN already downloaded on their phone... and the latest update even makes it possible to save certain traveller information like your name, ID (NEXUS card or passport), as well as your proof of vaccination in PDF or jpeg format. I've already got mine loaded and ready to go... planning to driving down to Buffalo next Tuesday for the day and pick up my parcels and do a bit of blu-ray shopping.

Fortunately every Walmart, Target and McDonald's in the US has free wi-fi, though. So even if you do happen to forget, it's very easy to stop at one of these places and use their data for a few minutes.
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Agree, must download the ArriveCAN app and register your travel in it beforehand.

If you go to the ArriveCAN official site, you'll find all entries into Canada need to use this app to provide necessary info to the CBSA before arrival, such as vaxx status, covid test result (not needed for land crossing), flight/port, etc.

I think it makes it easier for the CBSA's to have all the info they need to make their decisions - let you in or kick you out...LOL...without having to talk to you face to face for too long, which could be dangerous to them...
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smacd wrote: This deserves its own thread. If you're planning a short trip to the USA now that the testing rules for returning Canadians have changed, download the ArriveCan app!!!! I had my federal vaccine QR code and my passport and upon arriving back to the Canadian side (after spending 45 minutes collecting my 3 parcels and getting gas) I was given the option of either going back into the USA and downloading the app and registering the trip, or quarantining for 14 days! Fortunately, I had pre purchased 100mbs of US data 2 years ago as an add-on for my Koodo prepaid plan. Of the 15 or so cars trying to return at the same time as I was, at least 12 were in the same boat as me, scrambling to register in the US after being turned away. It was a nightmare!
BTW, how are the line-ups when coming back? Are they long?
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Thank you for this thread. I have not travelled outside the country since COVID-19, and looking to make a driving day trip to Buffalo. Would appreciate your advice/experience.

1. To enter the US, what do I need to show the CBP border agent? Passport/Nexus, and proof of vaccination? anything else?

2. In returning to Canada, what do I need to show the CBSA border agent? Passport/Nexus, proof of vaccination? I presume no COVID test is required at all now through land crossing? ArriveCAN app ?

I have not used the ArriveCAN app yet. Does each traveler need to have the ArriveCAN app installed and have a profile created or can 1 person have it installed with the information of all passengers in the same family? (presuming family 2 adults with children) Anything else I should bring with us or have on us?

Appreciate the advice,
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smacd wrote: This deserves its own thread. If you're planning a short trip to the USA now that the testing rules for returning Canadians have changed, download the ArriveCan app!!!! I had my federal vaccine QR code and my passport and upon arriving back to the Canadian side (after spending 45 minutes collecting my 3 parcels and getting gas) I was given the option of either going back into the USA and downloading the app and registering the trip, or quarantining for 14 days! Fortunately, I had pre purchased 100mbs of US data 2 years ago as an add-on for my Koodo prepaid plan. Of the 15 or so cars trying to return at the same time as I was, at least 12 were in the same boat as me, scrambling to register in the US after being turned away. It was a nightmare!
Great story on CTV News this evening about someone not downloading info into ArriveCan app and forced to quarantine for 14 days.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2335734
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edyee wrote: Thank you for this thread. I have not travelled outside the country since COVID-19, and looking to make a driving day trip to Buffalo. Would appreciate your advice/experience.

1. To enter the US, what do I need to show the CBP border agent? Passport/Nexus, and proof of vaccination? anything else?

2. In returning to Canada, what do I need to show the CBSA border agent? Passport/Nexus, proof of vaccination? I presume no COVID test is required at all now through land crossing? ArriveCAN app ?

I have not used the ArriveCAN app yet. Does each traveler need to have the ArriveCAN app installed and have a profile created or can 1 person have it installed with the information of all passengers in the same family? (presuming family 2 adults with children) Anything else I should bring with us or have on us?

Appreciate the advice,
edyee
US side, correct, passport and proof of vaccination.
Canadian side ArriveCan app with the current trip registered. They ask which crossing you will come back through and what time you will cross, passport. I was by myself, but I'm pretty sure that in my scramble to get the trip registered on the app, they said only 1 registration per family travelling together in the same car is necessary. No testing was required.
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Knighter wrote: BTW, how are the line-ups when coming back? Are they long?
2 cars at Roosville, BC, 12 cars scrambling to download ArriveCan.
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20 years ago suddenly we all needed id to cross the border. 10 years ago we all needed passports or enhanced id cards to cross the border. To see reports of so many people who have refused to read about how to cross the land border, as they've worked to reopen it for months is depressing.

Why are people so stupid?
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ritzcrv wrote: 20 years ago suddenly we all needed id to cross the border. 10 years ago we all needed passports or enhanced id cards to cross the border. To see reports of so many people who have refused to read about how to cross the land border, as they've worked to reopen it for months is depressing.

Why are people so stupid?
I totally agree and then they try to plead ignorance at the border saying I didn't know which never goes well at the border.
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When setting up a new trip in the ArriveCAN app, you need to select the specific port of entry (bridge/border location), does that really matter? Say I pick whirlpool bridge and later decide to return via peace bridge, will they still access it? Seems silly you need to specify the location..
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I think the confusion (at least in my case) stems from the rules around 72 hour trips. I'm not sure I saw anywhere that we needed the ArriveCan app. I thought my federal QR code and passport would be enough. I shudder to think what would happen with elderly folks. Believe it or not, many don't have smart phones or wouldn't know how to download an app, even if they did.
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wysiwyg wrote: When setting up a new trip in the ArriveCAN app, you need to select the specific port of entry (bridge/border location), does that really matter? Say I pick whirlpool bridge and later decide to return via peace bridge, will they still access it? Seems silly you need to specify the location..
They ask for location and time. Not sure how strict they are.
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smacd wrote: I think the confusion (at least in my case) stems from the rules around 72 hour trips. I'm not sure I saw anywhere that we needed the ArriveCan app. I thought my federal QR code and passport would be enough. I shudder to think what would happen with elderly folks. Believe it or not, many don't have smart phones or wouldn't know how to download an app, even if they did.
Yeah, I knew that people need to use this app before flying to Canada in the past. But I thought for land crossing people just need to show their vaxx certificates and passports at the border, but I was wrong, after reading the ArriveCAN site, I knew all entries into Canada need this app, including land crossing.
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smacd wrote: I think the confusion (at least in my case) stems from the rules around 72 hour trips. I'm not sure I saw anywhere that we needed the ArriveCan app. I thought my federal QR code and passport would be enough. I shudder to think what would happen with elderly folks. Believe it or not, many don't have smart phones or wouldn't know how to download an app, even if they did.
There is so much more in the AriveCan than your Vax data from 6 months ago. The reason it's important is to ensure the lines are moving, so each interaction with customs is as efficient as possible. If half (or more) shrug it off, the queues will be days long. I use Nexus air terminals, and usually walk briskly from the jetway, to avoid the inevitable.

I won't drive the borders, for every reason posted here.

As for many who can't use the tech, not relevant. They either learn it or don't travel across an international border
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smacd wrote: I think the confusion (at least in my case) stems from the rules around 72 hour trips. I'm not sure I saw anywhere that we needed the ArriveCan app. I thought my federal QR code and passport would be enough. I shudder to think what would happen with elderly folks. Believe it or not, many don't have smart phones or wouldn't know how to download an app, even if they did.
Just use desktop version before trip and upload everything beforehand and print out as well so no device needed at border.

Of course requires that you know approximately when crossing Canada border and which one.

Have done printouts only for over a dozen land crossings this year. Been at border +/- 3 hours that put in ArriveCan desktop.
2022: BOC raised 2 times and MCAP raised its prime next day.
2017 to 2018: BOC raised rates 5 times and MCAP raised its prime next day each time.
2020: BOC dropped rates 3 times and MCAP waited to drop its prime to include all 3 drops.
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georvu wrote:
Have done printouts only for over a dozen land crossings this year. Been at border +/- 3 hours that put in ArriveCan desktop.
You've done over a dozen land crossings this year already? :rolleyes:

US only opened their land border to fully vaxx'd Canadians less than a month ago (Nov. 8), and Canada only dropped the prohibitive covid tests a few days ago (Nov. 30)...
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Knighter wrote: Yeah, I knew that people need to use this app before flying to Canada in the past. But I thought for land crossing people just need to show their vaxx certificates and passports at the border, but I was wrong, after reading the ArriveCAN site, I knew all entries into Canada need this app, including land crossing.

Luckily we don't need to use an ArriveUSA app...lol
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Knighter wrote: You've done over a dozen land crossings this year already? :rolleyes:

US only opened their land border to fully vaxx'd Canadians less than a month ago (Nov. 8), and Canada only dropped the prohibitive covid tests a few days ago (Nov. 30)...
FYI @georvu could very well be deemed ESSENTIAL *

IIRC he works in the medical field

Example = Trucking Sector. Medical Sector
You’d be surprised how many medical folks cross the border every day … or a few times a week … by land
In this country to work in the other country.
Windsor for example … very busy crossing.
Michigan has a shortage of nurses.
And Ontario has a shortage of specialists (like Anesthesiologists )
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OK, if that's the case, it's understandable.

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