Is it illegal to not use your turn signal in a turn lane?

I've came across with people forgetting to turn off the signal and kept driving through the intersection. You came back to RFD with accident like this ppl will say 100% fault to the one who is turning. Signal doesn't necessary mean his/her intention and is NOT predictable like some other said here. Sometime people stopped at green light signalling to make a left turn but decided to go straight instead.

I wouldn't trust the signal but myself. That said I don't care if people signal or not.

OP, here is your answer (below in the quote from another member) if you want to know what "illegal" is.

As per the HTA: If you are turning at the end of the road safely, and there are no cars around, you do not have to signal. If there are any cars anywhere around, you have to.

Also, OP, your logic is horrible - you are thinking that other drivers have to assume what you are doing next, because it is "obvious".

Make it easier on you, and signal all the time. The reason the manufacturer installed the signals on your car is so you use them judiciously.

Also, it is not only about the signal - You can also get a ticket if the cop thinks the turn or the merge were done unsafely.

rcmpvet wrote: ↑The HTA of Ontario is quite clear, as noted here:

142. (1) The driver or operator of a vehicle upon a highway before turning to the left or right at any intersection or into a private road or driveway or from one lane for traffic to another lane for traffic or to leave the roadway shall first see that the movement can be made in safety, and if the operation of any other vehicle may be affected by the movement shall give a signal plainly visible to the driver or operator of the other vehicle of the intention to make the movement. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 142 (1).

The key words, seeing that you are stating you are in a marked turning lane or have no other choice than to turn, "if the operation of any other vehicle may be affected by the movement shall give a signal plainly visible".


YMMV

er34er34 wrote: ↑Yes, there is a situational element to it if you practice defensive driving.

Another common example is when you plan on making a right at intersection and let's say there is a car waiting to turn out of a gas station just before the intersection. If you signal, some idiot drivers assume you are turning into the gas station and proceed to drive out - putting you at risk. That risk can be minimized by NOT signalling until you pass them

If you are a defensive driver, then you have nothing to worry about. You'll allow yourself the proper speed and time to react.

There was an article in the Star a few weeks ago similar to this where if iirc a driver made a turn off the street into his parking lot. A police car was parked across the road in a lot watching and proceeded over and ticketed him for failing to signal. Since there were no other vehicles on the road at the time and the police car was parked the judge ruled the ticket not valid because no other vehicles were affected by the movement as stated in the HTA.

I also remember while living in Alberta this came up and it was ruled unnecessary to signal your intention to turn from a designated turn lane. It is however necessary to signal your intention to move over into the designated turn lane, another thing most people don't do nowadays either

If I'm in a dedicated turn lane (especially left) I always wait until I can start moving to activate the signal. I have the clicking noise while waiting at a stop light hence why when I can start turning I activate the signal. Got so used to it it's second nature

my gut is telling me that OP is the one whom sideswiped me (in downtown Toronto) while I was making a right-hand turn on to Yonge Street on Edward. I had my turn signal on, and always do. You attempted and failed to move around my vehicle and continue to drive into my vehicle after I had rolled down my window to look what went into me. YOU, OP said you were sorry and that it was YOUR FAULT. I love how OP comes to RFD to find fault on the accident that she clearly caused. read the Ontario Insurance Fault website and you will see who is at FAULT. YOU, OP knew I was turning right and went right into my vehicle and continued to after you knew you already hit me. YOU, OP should probably stop such a big vehicle as the 2010 Lexus RX350 you were driving which failed to maneuver around my clear visibly turning right and BRAND NEW vehicle you ran into. I ALREADY CONTACTED YOUR INSURANCE CO. BY THE WAY TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND MY OPINION ON HOW 'GOOD' OF A DRIVER YOU REALLY ARE.

rpage93 wrote: ↑my gut is telling me that OP is the one whom sideswiped me (in downtown Toronto) while I was making a right-hand turn on to Yonge Street on Edward. I had my turn signal on, and always do. You attempted and failed to move around my vehicle and continue to drive into my vehicle after I had rolled down my window to look what went into me. YOU, OP said you were sorry and that it was YOUR FAULT. I love how OP comes to RFD to find fault on the accident that she clearly caused. read the Ontario Insurance Fault website and you will see who is at FAULT. YOU, OP knew I was turning right and went right into my vehicle and continued to after you knew you already hit me. YOU, OP should probably stop such a big vehicle as the 2010 Lexus RX350 you were driving which failed to maneuver around my clear visibly turning right and BRAND NEW vehicle you ran into. I ALREADY CONTACTED YOUR INSURANCE CO. BY THE WAY TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND MY OPINION ON HOW 'GOOD' OF A DRIVER YOU REALLY ARE.

Oohh drama. If you were making a right turn you actually have to make sure the way is clear...

Turn signal is irrelevant in most of York region

bacalhau4me wrote: ↑Turn signal is irrelevant in most of York region

As well as Peel, Toronto, Durham.......

It's irrelevant everywhere these days.. the greater GTA isn't special

uber_shnitz wrote: ↑There may be cases where putting a turn signal may signal a false alarm to those around you, but those scenarios are fewer than the reverse. The OP asked a blanket case of whether it was illegal to not put a turn signal when you're in a turn lane. To me, that's more about laziness than safety concerns over a false alarm.

+1

er34er34 wrote: ↑That is probably true, but like I said, it is about reducing risks. The only way for 0 risk is not driving at all and hiding in an underground bunker.

So how would you avoid being rear-ended at a red light?

storybrook wrote: ↑So how would you avoid being rear-ended at a red light?

Ensure your tail lights are operational and you keep a safe distance from the car in front of you (to avoid you rear ending them). Don't drive during severe weather like blizzards with 99inches of snow and ice storms.
This doesn't avoid it. But it helps mitigate some risk (even if small).