ON to increase penalties for stunt driving/racing

michelb wrote: ↑ I've got mixed feelings about this law and the increase. I'm all for the law in cases where it's actually stunt driving / racing but I don't think it should be applied in all cases of simply exceeding by 50 km/h (e.g. IMHO, I don't think someone driving 160 km/h on a 400 series highway with visibility is good and there's light traffic should be charged with stunt driving). I think rather than being an absolute number (like 50km/h) it should a % (like exceeding by 100%). As far as increasing the impound and license suspension, I don't disagree that these should be consequences but I think they should only be after a guilty conviction, not just being charged. (I think the 7 day impound / 7 day suspension is reasonable when you get stopped by I feel that you should be given the opportunity to defend yourself before they can assess a more significant punishment). Ontario already has separate speeding fines and I honestly think that they penalty was plenty severe already. Some of the issues regarding these new increased penalties is that I think it will further encourage drivers to not stop and I think the more severe the penalty is, the less likely officers are of enforcing it.

Rob_EV wrote: ↑ I think that MOST higher performance vehicles SHOULD be able to outrun a Police Interceptor Ford Exploder......this is just going to lead to more police chases.

CanadianConsumerYEG wrote: ↑ There's nothing wrong with going 50+ on the 400 series if you're in the left lane, conditions are good, and vehicle has been maintained.

zoro69 wrote: ↑
It would also lower the threshold for laying street racing charges for those travelling 40 km/h or more above the posted limit on roads where the speed limit is less than 80 km/h.

Rob_EV wrote: ↑ The way it currently is "GUILTY until proven innocent". Even if proven innocent, the license suspension doesn't come off your record and the police don't pay the tow/impound fees (they 100% SHOULD). More like GUILTY even IF proven innocent.

I think that MOST higher performance vehicles SHOULD be able to outrun a Police Interceptor Ford Exploder......this is just going to lead to more police chases.

billy_z wrote: ↑ Last time I saw a police Ford Exploder launch start to chase a car near Oakville, it was damn fast. Feels like turbo charged + nitro. Although I think it is completely unnecessary to launch like that to stop a lady driver on HOV lane.

To outrun a Ford Exploder St, need at least be going 230+km/h. Need a serious performance car and very light traffic condition.

Kingsmen17 wrote: ↑ I always thought impounding the vehicle is a dumb law and nothing more than a cash grab. You could have lent your car to someone (family/friend etc) and then suddenly get a huge bill for storage/tow when you have nothing to do with the offence. The HTA is already punishing the driver for stunt driving. The car is just a transportation device.

qaz393 wrote: ↑ money grab. government gets a cut from tow yard storage fees fyi

Kingsmen17 wrote: ↑ I always thought impounding the vehicle is a dumb law and nothing more than a cash grab. You could have lent your car to someone (family/friend etc) and then suddenly get a huge bill for storage/tow when you have nothing to do with the offence. The HTA is already punishing the driver for stunt driving. The car is just a transportation device.

Canuck2fan wrote: ↑ Assuming the idiot you lent your car to was really stunt driving and it was not just a cop with a superiority complex flexing their "power" Impounding that vehicle makes TOTAL sense to me. It is the one thing that gets the offenders attention right away. ESPECIALLY if they borrowed it...

Least of all because if your judgement is so POOR for lack of a better word that you would ever lend your vehicle to someone. Who do something that stupid on a public road. As far as I am concerned you are just pretty much getting what you deserve for being naïve by having to walk for a week and pay some coin to get it back. Especially since you are also lending them your INSURANCE policy in Ontario in most cases, so handing over the keys is not something you should ever do lightly.

Again that is IF they were truly stunt driving, whatever that may be exactly on any given day according to any cop which is another argument entirely that the public has already lost sadly.

engineered wrote: ↑ It will have zero effect on dummies doing this. If it didn't stop them before, it won't stop them now. Only thing that will curb it is to step up enforcement, but it's easier for them to sit by the road and hand out smaller speeding tickets.

Binden wrote: ↑ Except that now if they do it 4 times, they'll get a life time driving ban. It's hard to drive dangerously if you don't have a license. Very big deterrent.