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Injured in martial art class by instructor

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Injured in martial art class by instructor

I was going to this wrestling /jiu justu class I had with Groupon and after class with rolled after we learned bit technique
I was rolling with instructor and on 3 round he flipped me and my right arm landed and twisted
I was in lot pain and yelling . It’s very sore in elbow area and taking Advil , Ice and numbing cream
My question is should I text and tell owner that as a brown belt he should forescreen it coming . I rolled with other instructor and other guys before and never got injured this bad
What can I do
I know I can’t sue since I sign waiver but what should I tell owner of gym
The instructor who injure me wasn’t that helpful either. Told me had return ice cans can’t bring it with me even though other students said go ahead we got tons. Didn’t show any empathy
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What can you do? Vote with your wallet and not sign up for an actual membership.

Better yet, what are you looking for?
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Well now he knows how to injure someone if need be.

OP just don’t go back, recover and continue elsewhere
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@joe4520 Did the school not show you how to fall properly? I have coached amateur wrestlers for many years. The first things they learn is how to fall, roll, etc. This is all done well before they learn to actually do the various throws.
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It was a flip butterfly sweep he said and Ianded and right arm twisted
Brutal
Hurts a lot
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joe4520 wrote: I was going to this wrestling /jiu justu class I had with Groupon and after class with rolled after we learned bit technique
I was rolling with instructor and on 3 round he flipped me and my right arm landed and twisted
I was in lot pain and yelling . It’s very sore in elbow area and taking Advil , Ice and numbing cream
My question is should I text and tell owner that as a brown belt he should forescreen it coming . I rolled with other instructor and other guys before and never got injured this bad
What can I do
I know I can’t sue since I sign waiver but what should I tell owner of gym
The instructor who injure me wasn’t that helpful either. Told me had return ice cans can’t bring it with me even though other students said go ahead we got tons. Didn’t show any empathy
Sorry that you got hurt that's the chance you take. My son is a Black Belt and you get lots of bumps and bruises along the way.
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Go to hospital. Get documentation. Waiver form covers normal injury, not negligence of people beating up on you for fun! Talk to lawyer right away. Good luck.
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antigua1999 wrote: Sorry that you got hurt that's the chance you take. My son is a Black Belt and you get lots of bumps and bruises along the way.
He's really a black n blue belt then...
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You might want to speak with a personal injury lawyer (many offer a free consultation). Liability waivers aren't a 100%, automatic "we are not liable at all because you signed this form" document.
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I'm sorry but if you got hurt just for a simple flip in a padded floor it means that you should not be within 500 m of a martial arts gym or a fight or doing a man's job.
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use it as motivation. heal up then go to another place with a jiu jitsu master. dedicate your life to becoming the best possible black belt you can be. wax on wax off daniel san.
...then sign back up to the same place, pretend like you're still an amateur, volunteer to roll with the same instructor and bust him up :twisted:
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That's why you sign a waiver. It's the same with any risky sport. I've been injured more by beginners but one instructor did separate my shoulder which took 5+ months to heal. Cracked rib from sidethrust kick, torn ACL from aikido throw, broken toe from same, boxers' fracture from 1st self defense lesson, and just 2 months' ago another cracked rib from rolling in KM. You just heal up, and either give up, start again or take another type of non-contact sport. What this taught me was how fragile the body is ... and none of the injuries was due to malevolent intent. We were all just doing our best to train.
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This is a butterfly sweep:

Are you saying that's all he did and you got hurt from it?
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You could speak with the head instructor, but in doubt you'll get much sympathy. People occasionally get injuries during live sparring. Honestly, if you're getting into BJJ you'll probably be sore fairly often.

You're also going to have to know when to base out and when not to bake out.
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I'm a brown belt, when it comes to something like a butterfly sweep I generally consider it a low risk sweet. Now, things might change mid sweep and I can recognize danger mid sweep, but if my training partner posts in the wrong way there is definitely a chance for a freak accident.

Sometimes freak accidents happen, I wouldn't be so quick to just blame the instructor. It's a shame you got hurt, unfortunately the "gentle art" of jiu-jitsu is rough and injuries will happen.

Wish you all the best in recovering.
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yah..I am surprised you got injured during a butterfly sweep. Anyhow. Before doing any sort fights and sweeps, a student must learn how to fall and roll and that takes more than 1 class or a groupon session... It could take months and then much longer to make it automated response. If you have no experience and on your first class you were doing these sweeps, I would run from this place as instructors are amateurs(as in, they maybe an ok fighters,but just not suitable for teaching). It takes a lot of knowledge, patience and technique to observe, correct and teach newbies.
Some schools are into it while others are known to cater more towards experienced fighters.
Either way, this stuff happens even with seasoned pros.
I've spent 8 years doing martial arts. Lots of bruises, a few broken bones as well and anything in between. You recover and come back. Half of them were my fault, other half was the fault of other students who did something they weren't suppose to. Just part of the training. At the end, made me ready for anything.
You should expect more bruises in the future as well with JJ. If you rathern not, try a martial arts like kungfu. Typically there aren't a lot of fighting.

Also, at times a newbie student such as yourself is at fault. You get scared, change your fall midway and injure yourself. I've seen that as well.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote: You might want to speak with a personal injury lawyer (many offer a free consultation). Liability waivers aren't a 100%, automatic "we are not liable at all because you signed this form" document.
He's extremely unlikely to get anywhere with a personal injury lawyer.

The nature of the activity (martial arts) is risky and is known to possibly result in injury. So long as the instructor and the student were acting within that context and reasonably, it'll be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to have any success pursuing the instructor for any damages caused in this case. This would be the case even absent a waiver given the nature of the activity involved in this case. The waiver largely solidifies the limitation of liability and is extra insurance for the benefit of the instructor.

It's unfortunate the OP got hurt, but thankfully the injury was not significant and will almost certainly not be permanent. The OP has two realistic options (1) recover and suck it up and go back to doing this activity when he feels better or (2) recover and suck it up and cease participating in such conduct in the future.
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I just have a hard time visualizing a brown belt randomly trying to hurt someone. It's also a butterfly sweep, what caused the accident was definitely an awkward post.

I can't help but think there was some spazzing during this roll also. Not to blame the OP, it's understandable when you're new to jiu-jitsu.
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You don’t really have a case to sue. Im no lawyer but it’s like the voluntary assumption of risk argument where you go to the class knowing these types of activities can lead to injuries. Same as when people go to a hockey game and a puck goes over the boards and hits you in the face.

Of course, if you can prove he purposely injured you, that’s a different story but if he was practising with you or sparring, it’s all part of the class.

Good luck and get well soon.
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