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Install Glass Shower door

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Install Glass Shower door

Hello fellow Members,

I am planning to install a frameless shower door in my bath. I asked a few people for quotes and everyone is asking for 400-500 bucks which I feel is a lot of money, just to drill 8 holes and put screws in. So I thought I will try to install on my own.

Shower opening is lined with marble and I don’t know if the back of the marble (inside the wall) is supported with wooden stud. Basically I want to drill a hole through marble and then hang the glass door by putting 3” screws hoping there is a wooden stud behind the marble. I tried to locate the studs using stud finder but I couldn’t locate the stud properly so there may not be a stud in the inside edge. My question is, can there be a shower enclosure without wooden frame around it?
I am afraid to drill a hole in marble and later find there is no stud behind it.
Anyone has experience with installing free standing glass shower doors?

Thank you!
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There for sure is a wood frame behind the stone and drywall. That's how you make a door like that.
If you want peace of mind, drill a small hole from the side.
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IMHO It is not simple to add a shower door or glass panel to an existing bath/shower if it was not built to support that
In my case I am doing it for a shower and I have a like 2" strip along the edge of the shower where the glass panel can sit
I must have support behind the wall exactly on that vertical otherwise it won't be possible to just drill the tiles and screw the clips that hold glass panel


In your case you seem to have framing on both sides of the opening and most probably you will have to install that door off center.
You could probably open the wall from the side and add support where needed
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You for sure have studs behind the marble. One major tip for you. Drill the holes in the marble ONLY. As soon as you feel the drill pop through it STOP. Do not drill into the wood or you will have a weak hold for the screw.
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CuriousC wrote: In your case you seem to have framing on both sides of the opening and most probably you will have to install that door off center.
You could probably open the wall from the side and add support where needed
I must be missing something-what makes you think there isn't 2x4's behind the jambs? Normally that opening is framed out with 2x4's like any other wall.

OP, measure the opening at top of door height and bottom, put a level on both walls etc-see if square.
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Zamboni wrote: I must be missing something-what makes you think there isn't 2x4's behind the jambs? Normally that opening is framed out with 2x4's like any other wall.

OP, measure the opening at top of door height and bottom, put a level on both walls etc-see if square.
the 2x4s could be as in the left or the right side examples below
if he wants to drill in the middle he cant, that is why I am saying off center

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RCLapCar wrote: You for sure have studs behind the marble. One major tip for you. Drill the holes in the marble ONLY. As soon as you feel the drill pop through it STOP. Do not drill into the wood or you will have a weak hold for the screw.
TY! Need to keep that in mind when I install my pannels
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CuriousC wrote: the 2x4s could be as in the left or the right side examples below
if he wants to drill in the middle he cant, that is why I am saying off center

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Yea, a pilot hole from the side or just opening the drywall will tell him exactly what's going on.
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RFDunknown wrote: Anyone has experience with installing free standing glass shower doors?
The guys that are charging $400-500 to install them.

Honestly, there has to be something solid behind that area to fasten into.
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Add in how much time and money it'll cost if you crack the marble or don't install properly.

Frankly nowadays, $4-500 for anyone to come to your house is a bargain.

Just my 2c.
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Toukolou wrote: Add in how much time and money it'll cost if you crack the marble or don't install properly.

Frankly nowadays, $4-500 for anyone to come to your house is a bargain.

Just my 2c.
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Folks don’t understand / appreciate what goes into being a tradesperson !

Yet they Cannot do it themselves at all … or well

But complain when a pro comes out and does it right the first time … no fuss no muss … in record time vs DIY

First thing homeowners need to learn / accept … is when you are outside of your capabilities / expertise

Not every person is good at everything … I am willing to admit my limitations … I don’t do electrical, and my electrician admits he couldn’t do / want to do my job either.
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PointsHubby wrote: This

Folks don’t understand / appreciate what goes into being a tradesperson !

Yet they Cannot do it themselves at all … or well

But complain when a pro comes out and does it right the first time … no fuss no muss … in record time vs DIY

First thing homeowners need to learn / accept … is when you are outside of your capabilities / expertise

Not every person is good at everything … I am willing to admit my limitations … I don’t do electrical, and my electrician admits he couldn’t do / want to do my job either.
Agree! I don’t know how others feel, I rather hire pro to do jobs. I could DIY but it would take forever to start then finish, it may look like an A??, I may get injured. Pay pro and stay alive. It may cost you $$$ but it’s fair.
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Well let's not get ahead of ourselves here
We just had an example around here with a guy who paid a contractor 'to come to his house' and do the tiles
I guess he must have paid for the 'come to my house' part only as the tile job was a disaster

Yeah the fear mongering is one of their arguments: pay us an arm and a leg so you don't lose one.
I say F... that ! Sorry but if I have to take a mortgage to renovate a bathroom just because the contractor costs double or triples the total cost then I am in the wrong business as I am not making that kinde of money

I do see many of these pros going to Uni to be good at what they are doing ... come on ..you have one small job you do not have to be doctor in installing tiles or in installing glass doors because you are going to install ONE , YOURS.
Do your homework don't be lazy ...if you make more than what you pay the contractor then sure pay him and make more money doing your job.
But if you get 50K per year gross salary and you want to hire a contractor that makes 100K per year, for a relatively plain job then you have to reconsider

I get it -roof, basement underpinning, wall removals, major structural modifications, yes hire them but most probably to install a door, to change a faucet or similar things you will most probably overpay and with this inflation and COVID stimulus in place they might not even come to your house

And yes it is going to take time; unless you are under pressure ..take your time and do it. At least the time you wound need to make the net amount you would otherwise have to pay to the contractor.
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CuriousC wrote: the 2x4s could be as in the left or the right side examples below
if he wants to drill in the middle he cant, that is why I am saying off center

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The drawing on the right must have a wall at least 10 inch thick. Even the one on the right ought to be at least 7-8" thick. I highly doubt any reasonable carpenter would build a door way like that. It's okay for the sake of illustration or argument.


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Just make sure you get the biggest stainless screws you can fit nicely in your hardware, probably #10’s.
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engineered wrote: There for sure is a wood frame behind the stone and drywall. That's how you make a door like that.
If you want peace of mind, drill a small hole from the side.
Already tried to drill a small hole but couldn’t tell if there was a stud. I felt like the drill is just going through the wall and there was no resistance. But thanks for the suggestion I will try again in a different location.
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RFDunknown wrote: Already tried to drill a small hole but couldn’t tell if there was a stud. I felt like the drill is just going through the wall and there was no resistance. But thanks for the suggestion I will try again in a different location.
Just poke the drywall with a stiff wire, like a coat hanger, or small screwdriver. It will easily go through the drywall, not the stud.
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Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I tried to drill a hole along the side of the drywall but didn’t feel I hit a stud. I will try another location. I used the stud finder just above the entrance to the right and I was able to find something but again if drill there I wasn’t able to find anything.

Hiring a pro who can do the job is for somehow who makes a lot of money. They are asking 20x times what I make per hour and there is no guarantee they will do it right either. I can live with out the door by just having a curtain and that’s the reason I want to try it myself. It’s just like any other thing, I am new to it until I do it the first time. Building a deck, changing faucet, lawn mowing, snow shovelling all can be done by pros but it doesn’t mean an average joe can do a decent job. I know if I mess it up I might pay more money but that’s the risk I will accept
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lamin wrote: Just make sure you get the biggest stainless screws you can fit nicely in your hardware, probably #10’s.
Got #8-12 size rated to hold 45lbs. They are the largest I could find that fits the door mounting holes.
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engineered wrote: Just poke the drywall with a stiff wire, like a coat hanger, or small screwdriver. It will easily go through the drywall, not the stud.
Great. Will definitely do this. Smiling Face With Open Mouth

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