Job Offer: But moving out of Edmonton to Vancouver

glenn9090 wrote: ↑ seriously it was (in the past) and it is (right now) a lot of struggle to meet the end needs. Since day one when I landed in Canada, nothing came in my way. Had to do cash jobs after my full day shift to just make sure i kept food on the table.

so far this is the first break within the organization when i am jumping 4 grades. Double the money is exciting but at the end of the day, this is almost equivalent to what I am earning here.

here in Edmonton, with the amount of salary that I am getting, I am happy with kids going to top ranked school in Edmonton and renting a 3 BR town house. I eventually have no plans for buying a house on mortgage till i find a suitable good pay job.

Thats what i was confused whether should i grab this opportunity for the Career or wait for a better one in Edmonton.

ps: Still waiting for the offer from HR that may come by end of today.

glenn9090 wrote: ↑ seriously it was (in the past) and it is (right now) a lot of struggle to meet the end needs. Since day one when I landed in Canada, nothing came in my way. Had to do cash jobs after my full day shift to just make sure i kept food on the table.

so far this is the first break within the organization when i am jumping 4 grades. Double the money is exciting but at the end of the day, this is almost equivalent to what I am earning here.

here in Edmonton, with the amount of salary that I am getting, I am happy with kids going to top ranked school in Edmonton and renting a 3 BR town house. I eventually have no plans for buying a house on mortgage till i find a suitable good pay job.

Thats what i was confused whether should i grab this opportunity for the Career or wait for a better one in Edmonton.

ps: Still waiting for the offer from HR that may come by end of today.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑ Please don't listen to a bunch of people stuck at 50-100K with no idea how to progress their careers. Your manager was right to guide you to look at the career opportunity instead of the money. Obviously, you need to make sure you can support your family, but it sounds like you can even with the higher COL in Vancouver.

You should then look at where this job gets you in 5-10 years.

Let's say in Edmonton, you double to 100K in 5 years.
In Vancouver, you double to 200K in 5 years.

Do you still think you would be worse off financially in Vancouver? How about in 10 years? This will keep compounding.

Edmonton, btw, is a sh*thole. Literally one of the ugliest cities in Canada with DECLINING prospects.

lovetolearn wrote: ↑ What about Calgary? Is Calgary any better?

MarinersFanatik wrote: ↑ The high cost of living concern is extremely real. Renting a 3-bedroom townhome is $3500+ a month and food for a family of 5 is $1200 a month if they never ate out. Those two alone would make up at least 65% of OP's monthly take home pay at $100k a year gross. Even making $200k, OP still wouldn't be living a high quality of life in Vancouver with a family of 5.

If OP could go from $50k to $100k while staying in Edmonton, I would suggest he do that instead. That would increase the quality of life for his family more than it would in Vancouver.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑
Edmonton, btw, is a sh*thole. Literally one of the ugliest cities in Canada with DECLINING prospects.

tommy1311 wrote: ↑ Huh? Are we talking about the same Edmonton? Its metropolis has the tallest skyscraper east of Toronto, and it has the youngest population and virtually the highest income in Canada. It's absolutely booming here. I can tell that you haven't been to the Ice District downtown here; it's far better than anything that Vancouver has by a long shot.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑ You need to get out more. Ice District is glass architecture in a flat, drab city.

You can't beat natural beauty:


Do you think Edmonton appears on any list of most beautiful cities? Vancouver is in many of them.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6169680/vanc ... iful-city/

tommy1311 wrote: ↑ Sorry I misunderstood. I thought we were talking about overall city vibrancy, quality of life, and culture/amenities. Yes, Vancouver has mountains lol.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑ Edmonton has better wages and lower cost of living. That's about it.

With Vancouver's better city planning and a more densely populated core, vibrancy, culture, amenities, etc. aren't even up for debate. This is evident too from the amount of people from Edmonton that vacation in Vancouver. How many people go from Vancouver to Edmonton for vacation? I have lived in and know lots of people in both cities. At least in my circle of friends, no one goes to Edmonton for vacation. It's just not an attractive place.

You can continue to be biased or just look at the facts, which is your opinion of Edmonton being an attractive city, is just not a majority view.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑ Edmonton has better wages and lower cost of living. That's about it.

With Vancouver's better city planning and a more densely populated core, vibrancy, culture, amenities, etc. aren't even up for debate. This is evident too from the amount of people from Edmonton that vacation in Vancouver. How many people go from Vancouver to Edmonton for vacation? I have lived in and know lots of people in both cities. At least in my circle of friends, no one goes to Edmonton for vacation. It's just not an attractive place.

You can continue to be biased or just look at the facts, which is your opinion of Edmonton being an attractive city, is just not a majority view.

MarinersFanatik wrote: ↑ Sure, but we're not talking about going to either Vancouver or Edmonton for vacation. In terms of day-to-day living, the quality of life in Vancouver is going to be lacking. Sure, when people travel to Vancouver, they can pretty much stay in and around Downtown/West End if they want to and those areas are nice, but for actual living, OP and his family are going to have to live in a relatively undesirable area of GVR (far from the area in your picture) to even try to make the finances work.

I can't speak from experience about what it's like to live in Edmonton, but in Vancouver, outside of the West End/Downtown, living anywhere else in GVR is pretty meh. I don't see the appeal to come live here with the extremely high cost of living unless you're getting paid some obscene amount, which the OP isn't getting.

Walch1102 wrote: ↑ Remember this is all just supply and demand. Vancouver has a higher cost of living because it's MORE DESIRABLE. Edmonton pays well because talent won't go there otherwise.

Since you don't know much about Edmonton, let me educate you:
-it's covered in snow dirtied up by mud most of the year i.e. it looks like shit. For some reason, most of the buildings are also some shade of brown or dull grey...it's basically the most colorless city you've ever seen in your life
-winter isn't coming...winter is always there
-Yes it pays more than Vancouver on avg, but that's very much because of the blue collar presence related to oil. The corporate gigs pay less than Calgary, which is cleaner, nicer, newer.
-Land-locked with a crappy river running through it i.e. no beaches or nice seawall
-Food is actually quite decent, but no where near Vancouver quality or selection
-Not many direct flights anywhere international
-lower taxes than BC...but Calgary also has that
-flat - far from mountains for skiing, hiking, etc.
-big mall, but really crappy shopping experience in general..you will feel like you're in a backwater town
-there is nothing nearby so roadtrips are going to be on the longer side
-it does have better education in general, but again..so does Calgary

Edmonton is basically a crappier version of Calgary unless you're in your teens/early twenties and love to party with university kids.

CNeufeld wrote: ↑ One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the extra 7% sales tax in BC.

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Walch1102 wrote: ↑ Remember this is all just supply and demand. Vancouver has a higher cost of living because it's MORE DESIRABLE. Edmonton pays well because talent won't go there otherwise.

Since you don't know much about Edmonton, let me educate you:
-it's covered in snow dirtied up by mud most of the year i.e. it looks like shit. For some reason, most of the buildings are also some shade of brown or dull grey...it's basically the most colorless city you've ever seen in your life
-winter isn't coming...winter is always there
-Yes it pays more than Vancouver on avg, but that's very much because of the blue collar presence related to oil. The corporate gigs pay less than Calgary, which is cleaner, nicer, newer.
-Land-locked with a crappy river running through it i.e. no beaches or nice seawall
-Food is actually quite decent, but no where near Vancouver quality or selection
-Not many direct flights anywhere international
-lower taxes than BC...but Calgary also has that
-flat - far from mountains for skiing, hiking, etc.
-big mall, but really crappy shopping experience in general..you will feel like you're in a backwater town
-there is nothing nearby so roadtrips are going to be on the longer side
-it does have better education in general, but again..so does Calgary

Edmonton is basically a crappier version of Calgary unless you're in your teens/early twenties and love to party with university kids.