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Is this a job scam?

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Is this a job scam?

Hi everyone, this is my first post here!

So I'm a recent high school grad and I've been looking for my first official job, mostly minimum wage stuff. I signed up on indeed.ca and set my resume to public. I got an email from a company I didn't apply to. This is my first job and I'm not sure if it's legit or not. Tbh it sounds too good to be true. I emailed back saying I was interested and they sent me this:


We have 3 open vacancies for the position "ONLINE SERVICE MANAGER".
So we are looking for new employees who wish to work with us.

We need a person who will keep in touch with our customers and clients.
With them you need to build mutual dialogue and to keep working etiquette.
This is home based online position(remote work).

Emрlоymеnt: Full/Pаrt timе:

1.Sаlаry: (Full timе: 1340$/wеек) (Pаrt timе: 670$/wеек)
2.Wоrкing hоurs: 40 hоurs/wеек оr 20 hоurs/wеек
3.Payment going into your bank account weekly directly via Interac e-transfer.
4.Working hours: 9 AM - 5 PM.

If you choose position of Part Time, you need to work at least 4 hours a day, it is advisable to start the morning.

Triаl реriоd: 10 dаys. (8 working days and 2 weekends)

During trial period, you get a salary.(Full Time - 1340$/week ; Part Time - 670$/week)
We request: To be responsible, to do the task in exact dates.
You will get salary every Friday at 6 pm without commission.
Interview: You will get the interview at the office as soon as you pass probation period or you can get interview through a video-conference on Skype.

Requirements:
1.Excellent customer service skills
2.Ability to work well independently and as part of a team
3.Well developed organizational, time management and prioritization skills
4.Proficient user in MS Office including Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint and Strong typing and data entry skills
5.Excellent communication skills
6. Well developed problem solving skills

Duties:
1.Manage incoming phone call inquiries
2.Prepare, scan and upload all mails into our system
3.Create and mail correspondence to claimants, clients, and service providers
4.Data base file creation
5.Handle all open and closed office filing
6.Preparation of weekly and monthly, reports using Excel and Word
7.Assist with other support functions as required

We'll provide for you our client database.

After a few successful deals with our customers, we will discuss with you a long-term contract.
I am your personal manager and all questions you can ask for me.

I will be able to answer any questions that you have and will help you in all your beginnings.

Please fill out the Application Form and send me to continue. You don't need to print the Application Form.


I filled it out and sent it. Then they emailed me back saying they would like me to try this position. They sent me a labour agreement and said they will pay by interac e-transfer.

So what do you think?
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Yes its a scam
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cgtlky wrote: Yes its a scam
What exactly is the scam?

Yes I agree it is likely it's 99% a scam as it sounds to good to be true, but how does this scam work? Are they just fishing for bank account #'s?
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Nov 26, 2016
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To me it does sound fishy.Who hires a high school grad in a manager position? Company name? Does googling them bring up anything? If not, it's a scam
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Scam. Companies that are legit don't talk about salary over email in such a cavalair way. I get the same emails and my background is extensive. You need to delete this and not waste another moment on this.
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fryguy1987 wrote: What exactly is the scam?

Yes I agree it is likely it's 99% a scam as it sounds to good to be true, but how does this scam work? Are they just fishing for bank account #'s?
That's what I was wondering about. What exactly are they trying to do?
ronnielarmond wrote: To me it does sound fishy.Who hires a high school grad in a manager position? Company name? Does googling them bring up anything? If not, it's a scam
The company name is legit and it's actually a very large company in us and Canada. The website is real too and the email is a company one (not gmail or Hotmail). However I figure stuff like this is easy to find out and impersonate. The phone number I actually found on a cold calling/marketing number and I'm now wondering if that's what they want me to do.


The reasons I doubt this offer though is that the person emailing me (my manager, they say) says they only communicate by email no calling, the pay is too good, as mentioned I have no experience, and their office is in Quebec (I'm in Toronto). The only thing keeping me from being 100% sure it's a scam is that I don't know how they benefit from this.
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I am your personal manager and all questions you can ask for me

I will be able to answer any questions that you have and will help you in all your beginnings.
Proper english ftw
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fryguy1987 wrote: What exactly is the scam?

Yes I agree it is likely it's 99% a scam as it sounds to good to be true, but how does this scam work? Are they just fishing for bank account #'s?
Who will pay you (Full timе: 1340$/wеек) (Pаrt timе: 670$/wеек)? How will they know if you are working or not?
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This same scam was posted on RFD before. succoro-inc-job-offer-fraudulent-2126875/

Just Google ""ONLINE SERVICE MANAGER" scam" to see other results.

Anyways, it's a money mule scam. You provide your banking info. The scammer sends illegally obtained money to your account. The real owner of that money reports theft/fraud and that transfer gets shut down. The scammer already took a cut of the money but from your account. The scammer walks away free because the account is hidden behind fake IPs, while you now owe your bank money.

Even before thinking that in depth, just look at the job ad. No legit employer is so open and flashy about salary. $69,000 to sit at home? You need no skills for this "job."
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Yes, I'm starting to see how this is completely a scam. The "too good to be true" rule seems to work very accurately. Thanks to everyone who gave advice or left their opinion, it helped me a lot. I'll use this as an experience to learn from in the future. Like one poster suggested, I'll delete everything and block the scammer's email. Once again, thank you to everyone!
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Gee wrote: I hope you didn't provide any personal information when you sent in the application
Just the stuff on my resume. I figure that stuff is easy to find out anyway on yellow pages or whatnot. But nothing like my SIN or bank account.
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Ljubljana24 wrote: Just the stuff on my resume. I figure that stuff is easy to find out anyway on yellow pages or whatnot. But nothing like my SIN or bank account.
What about your home address?

Identity theft starts with bits and pieces. Full name, address, cell number etc
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As an employment counsellor, I see this sort of thing from time to time. There are usually giveaways:

* the 'job offer' or 'online interview' is unsolicited, usually with a claim that the employer found your resume online
* the job being offered seems fairly generic, with vague descriptions, and often pay that sounds better than usual for the kind of work
* although a company is named, the email address provided is usually hotmail or gmail or something similar, instead of a company email address
* while the company may exist, it may be difficult to find a website for it (or, if a genuine company is named, there are other giveaways - eg the email address)
* the supposed sender of the email has little or no online presence - eg no LinkedIn profile

Google is your friend; if it is a scam, you'll find similar - often identical - examples online, as in this case. Genuine employers don't make offers of employment to people who haven't applied for positions and whom they haven't interviewed. (Well, other than American Income Life and Primerica, but they're a different story).
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cgtlky wrote: Who will pay you (Full timе: 1340$/wеек) (Pаrt timе: 670$/wеек)? How will they know if you are working or not?
That doesn't answer my question. I asked how does the scam work? Are they just fishing for bank account numbers?
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fryguy1987 wrote: That doesn't answer my question. I asked how does the scam work? Are they just fishing for bank account numbers?
There is no bank accounts numbers involved since it mention e-transfer but fishing for SIN# is possible.
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The applicant will get the job. Once they become an "employee" then they will be asked for personal information ( SIN DOB Bank etc) the criminal then uses this for fraudulent activities later on, mortgage applications, credit card and other scams.
Once the criminal has the info the job disappears. Laid off...no longer required.
I'm still on the turnip truck
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find out their physical address, if they refuse to give it to you, then its a red flag, find out a number of someone to speak to in person, if they dont talk over the phone and talk email only, its a scam
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funny, I just received a similar email a few days a go, for 'Asset Manager' position offered by Decos Mobile.
The email claims they found my resume on 'Randstad'.

I have never received a job offer by email without actually applying for the position.

Also, there is no phone number, all recruiters, companies, etc usually have a phone number in their signature.

Definitely something isn't right here, please stay away.
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Over $5000 a month ($60K+/year) for a manager position. And they offer this to someone with no previous work experience. And they want to pay you under the table with E-transfer.

Ya that's not sketchy or anything.

Run.

PS- you really need to start adulting bud. If you couldn't tell this was a scam right away (Why TF did you send them an application??) you aren't adulting right.

BTW hate to ask but you didn't give them your social insurance number did you? Please tell me you didn't give them your social insurance number...

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