kitchen cabinet repair
hi how to properly fix the holes on the kitchen cabinet?
holes are too big and loose.
See pic please
TC
holes are too big and loose.
See pic please
TC
kitchen cabinet repair
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- love0715 [OP]
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- tew
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Fill the holes with wood filler. Sand flat when dry.
- PCShutters
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Wood filler Is only cosmetic. It will not be strong enough to reattach that hinge. It is just wood dust. It has no mechanical holding power.
Better method would be to drill the hole bigger and glue in a wooden dowel. Once dried, you can trim it flush and reattach the hinge. Make sure to pre-drill before you drive in those screws.
There is another RFDer on this forums just posted the exact same question a few weeks ago.
diy-solutions-stripped-screw-hole-2523512
Lots of helpful suggestions there.
- TOMSEVEN
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Just move the hinge up or down a 1/4".
Pre-drill the new screw holes for sure, then fill any exposed holes with baseboard trim caulking.
Easy repair.
Pre-drill the new screw holes for sure, then fill any exposed holes with baseboard trim caulking.
Easy repair.
- PCShutters
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These are euro hinges or also known as cup hinges. If you move the location of the holes in the cabinet, you will have to do the same for the door. How do you suggest the op cover up the huge 35mm hole on the door? Also, moving it 1/4” won’t help. The immediate surrounding area around the old hole are compromised and not structurally sound anymore.
Not so easy anymore huh?
- pootza
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Fill the hole with wood filler. Sand flat when dry.PCShutters wrote: ↑ How do you suggest the op cover up the huge 35mm hole on the door?
- Jon Lai
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A 35mm hole? That's a lot of sawdust.
I would just get one of those backer plates as an amateur DIYer solution.
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Considering it's not a through hole, I challenge you to that that piece out in one piece... haha.
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- PCShutters
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I have no idea if you are joking or being genuine. But if you are serious, you probably have never build a cabinet in your life.
Moving the 35mm in either direction means moving the mounting holes as well. And guess what? One of the new mounting hole will be right inside the old 35mm that you just suggested that the op fill it with saw dust. So instead of having one stripped hole, the op will have 2 more plus the 35mm saw dust hole.
Not to mention most home owner do not own a 35mm forstner drill bit to drill a new 35mm that they will need.
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I 100% agree this is the best solution.PCShutters wrote: ↑ Wood filler Is only cosmetic. It will not be strong enough to reattach that hinge. It is just wood dust. It has no mechanical holding power.
Better method would be to drill the hole bigger and glue in a wooden dowel. Once dried, you can trim it flush and reattach the hinge. Make sure to pre-drill before you drive in those screws.
There is another RFDer on this forums just posted the exact same question a few weeks ago.
diy-solutions-stripped-screw-hole-2523512
Lots of helpful suggestions there.
Many of the other solutions in that other thread are more suited here too, than in that other thread.
The issue there was more the broken plastic plug, and not just a simple hole issue like here.
Many missed that.
I stayed out the discussion.
This filler isn't bad though.
https://www.jbweld.com/product/kwikwood-epoxy-putty-1oz
A dowel plug is still best, and cheaper.
- pootza
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Well it was half genuine because you asked how to fill the whole in and it was half joking because it was sorta the same answer giving earlier. I also never said to fill it with sawdust either so maybe wear your glasses so you don't misread things.PCShutters wrote: ↑ I have no idea if you are joking or being genuine. But if you are serious, you probably have never build a cabinet in your life.
Moving the 35mm in either direction means moving the mounting holes as well. And guess what? One of the new mounting hole will be right inside the old 35mm that you just suggested that the op fill it with saw dust. So instead of having one stripped hole, the op will have 2 more plus the 35mm saw dust hole.
Not to mention most home owner do not own a 35mm forstner drill bit to drill a new 35mm that they will need.
I also never mentioned about moving the hinge but why can't you move the hinge say 50mm then you won't interfere with the 'wood filler' because wood filler is for cosmetic purposes.
Why do you require a forstner bit? Why can't you do it with a hole saw or even a wood chisel? If you want to do it with a forstner bit they probably do sell them at most hardware stores.
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Yeah..... lots of questionable advice here.
Basically, for this I would recommend the following:
#1 - Wood glue and toothpicks or slivers of wood. There is a higher chance of failure for this, but it might be worth a first shot.
#2 - Drill and larger diameter dowel, if you can properly locate it, pop the dowel in, trim flush, make sure your new screw hole is centered on the dowel.
#3 - Forstner bit and hole plug. Can you to your hardware store and find a bit and hole plug in the same size, same approach as the dowel, but should be larger surface are you can fill and more forgiveness to not have your screw land on an edge.
imo the only correct tool for this job is a forstner bit - while I guess you could take more time a do a worse job with a router, chisel, or hole saw, that would be messy, ugly, and probably not hold as well, I still wouldnt consider it a option for this.
Basically, for this I would recommend the following:
#1 - Wood glue and toothpicks or slivers of wood. There is a higher chance of failure for this, but it might be worth a first shot.
#2 - Drill and larger diameter dowel, if you can properly locate it, pop the dowel in, trim flush, make sure your new screw hole is centered on the dowel.
#3 - Forstner bit and hole plug. Can you to your hardware store and find a bit and hole plug in the same size, same approach as the dowel, but should be larger surface are you can fill and more forgiveness to not have your screw land on an edge.
Do you know the difference between a hole saw and a forester bit, and why you use a forstner bit for euro hinges and never consider anything else?
imo the only correct tool for this job is a forstner bit - while I guess you could take more time a do a worse job with a router, chisel, or hole saw, that would be messy, ugly, and probably not hold as well, I still wouldnt consider it a option for this.
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Yes it's always better to use the proper tool invented for the job at hand but if you don't have that tool there are always other ways to do it ... even if you're a homeowner.SubjectivelyObjective wrote: ↑ Do you know the difference between a hole saw and a forester bit, and why you use a forstner bit for euro hinges and never consider anything else?
imo the only correct tool for this job is a forstner bit - while I guess you could take more time a do a worse job with a router, chisel, or hole saw, that would be messy, ugly, and probably not hold as well, I still wouldnt consider it a option for this.
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i would also put in a dowel, but i would add some kind of strong glue to hold that particle board together then insert the dowel and drill into it once its dry. the dowel has to be fused tothe existing particle board so glue will help it "bite"
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Here is a really awesome video that gives you three different methods depending on the problem.
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Here is a really awesome video that gives you three different methods depending on the problem.
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I didn't misread anything. You said fill the hole with wood filler. I don't know what planet you are from but around here, wood filler is sawdust powder mixed with water and a bit of glue. Unless you specify bondo or epoxy or weld bond, wood filler is saw dust.pootza wrote: ↑ Well it was half genuine because you asked how to fill the whole in and it was half joking because it was sorta the same answer giving earlier. I also never said to fill it with sawdust either so maybe wear your glasses so you don't misread things.
I also never mentioned about moving the hinge but why can't you move the hinge say 50mm then you won't interfere with the 'wood filler' because wood filler is for cosmetic purposes.
Why do you require a forstner bit? Why can't you do it with a hole saw or even a wood chisel? If you want to do it with a forstner bit they probably do sell them at most hardware stores.
You didn't mention anything about moving the hinge but you quoted my reply to @TOMSEVEN regarding moving the hinges. I asked him the question, not you. You are the one that jumped into the middle of a conversation and started making smarta$$ remarks. Have you ever seen people fill a 35mm diameter x 12mm deep hole with wood filler? Do you know what happen when you fill a large hole like that with wood filler? No? Let me tell you: it will crack.
While I (and most woodworkers) can make a 35mm hole without the forstner bit, I doubt a typical homeowner like you could. Yes, you can buy the 35mm at most hardware stores, but most RFDer would not be willing to spend $30 on a drill bit to use for one hole. Also, it does require some skill to drill a 35mm hole free-hand without the centre guiding tip (which again I doubt you can do as evidenced by your reply above)
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Around here wood filler is stuff you buy at the store ... no sawdust required. And if it cracks you just add more wood filler.PCShutters wrote: ↑ I didn't misread anything. You said fill the hole with wood filler. I don't know what planet you are from but around here, wood filler is sawdust powder mixed with water and a bit of glue. Unless you specify bondo or epoxy or weld bond, wood filler is saw dust.
You didn't mention anything about moving the hinge but you quoted my reply to @TOMSEVEN regarding moving the hinges. I asked him the question, not you. You are the one that jumped into the middle of a conversation and started making smarta$$ remarks. Have you ever seen people fill a 35mm diameter x 12mm deep hole with wood filler? Do you know what happen when you fill a large hole like that with wood filler? No? Let me tell you: it will crack.
While I (and most woodworkers) can make a 35mm hole without the forstner bit, I doubt a typical homeowner like you could. Yes, you can buy the 35mm at most hardware stores, but most RFDer would not be willing to spend $30 on a drill bit to use for one hole. Also, it does require some skill to drill a 35mm hole free-hand without the centre guiding tip (which again I doubt you can do as evidenced by your reply above)
Why would anybody with half a brain spend $30 on a single bit when you can get a hole set for $37? Did they see you coming or did they call you? You can also get a bit from amazon for like $10. And people buy all kinds of things they use once or twice ... like how bout a treadmill?
You never started a hole with a hole saw and then removed the bit and finished the hole to the depth you needed? You never used a hinge jig or any other homemade jig to help you out? Never ever seen a woodworker like you. You sound more like a homeowner.
You never did respond to moving the hinge 50mm or how bout moving it 100mm ... could a homeowner do that?
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Have you ever look at what they used to make those “wood filler”??? Sawdust! Unless it specified otherwise, it is just sawdust. It’s like I am talking to a 5 years old. My god.pootza wrote: ↑ Around here wood filler is stuff you buy at the store ... no sawdust required. And if it cracks you just add more wood filler.
Why would anybody with half a brain spend $30 on a single bit when you can get a hole set for $37? Did they see you coming or did they call you? You can also get a bit from amazon for like $10. And people buy all kinds of things they use once or twice ... like how bout a treadmill?
You never started a hole with a hole saw and then removed the bit and finished the hole to the depth you needed? You never used a hinge jig or any other homemade jig to help you out? Never ever seen a woodworker like you. You sound more like a homeowner.
You never did respond to moving the hinge 50mm or how bout moving it 100mm ... could a homeowner do that?
I didn’t respond to your non-relevant suggestion because that is not what the op asked for. He/she only asked for a simple fix. Why would you suggest a bunch of unnecessary work that required he/she to buy addition tools? While there are jigs out there that can help with mounting these euro hinges, most of homeowners don’t have it. What you suggested would require the op to go out and buy a whole new hinge boring jig and hinge mounting jig. How does that help? If they can do that, they wouldn’t be on here asking the question.
What I suggested originally was the cheapest and easiest way to fix these common issue. Why do you have to make it so complicated and make it all about you?
I never claim to be a “woodworker”. I am a DIY-first-time-homeowner. I never claim to know everything. But I am more than positive that I know more than you when it comes to woodworking.