A large Brampton, Ont. grocery store has been fined for failing to adhere to physical distancing guidelines

Apart from limiting the number of people inside the store (even this is questionable), putting stickers in the ground and erecting plastic shields what else can a store do?
Everywhere I've shopped people are not keeping the distances, so these rules are being broken almost everywhere.

Why can’t people who are complaining just go elsewhere? That fine is gonna be paid by customers in the end, the store will just increase prices. Seriously people in canada need to stop complaining about grocery stores. Do you want them to just shutdown altogether?

apnayloags wrote: ↑ Why can’t people who are complaining just go elsewhere? That fine is gonna be paid by customers in the end, the store will just increase prices. Seriously people in canada need to stop complaining about grocery stores. Do you want them to just shutdown altogether?

Did you ever think the people complaining are the employees?
Maybe they don't feel safe in the work place but if they choose to leave, they don't qualify for any benefits.

bobby621 wrote: ↑ Did you ever think the people complaining are the employees?
Maybe they don't feel safe in the work place but if they choose to leave, they don't qualify for any benefits.

The people that are complaining are most definitely not employees (in general) My wife is a 911 operator and the number of people who call to report violations are mind boggling. All the 911 call takers are fed up with it, it's all day every day. Forget the fact that they are calling 911 to begin with when it's not an emergency.

You have neighbours rating on other neighbours for having people over, people are calling in to complain about people in parks, schoolyards, hiking trails, businesses not following social distancing measures etc.

It's Oceans that was charged.

sandikosh wrote: ↑ It's Oceans that was charged.

Good for them.
They should've been closed for 1 week.

HghSsociety wrote: ↑ The people that are complaining are most definitely not employees (in general) My wife is a 911 operator and the number of people who call to report violations are mind boggling. All the 911 call takers are fed up with it, it's all day every day. Forget the fact that they are calling 911 to begin with when it's not an emergency.

You have neighbours rating on other neighbours for having people over, people are calling in to complain about people in parks, schoolyards, hiking trails, businesses not following social distancing measures etc.

yup.

"hello 9-1-1, do you need police, fire or ambulance?"
''POLICE!! there's a group of kids playing street hockey NOT social distancing''

or...

"my neighbour is definitely having a party, there are 4 cars in his driveway rather than 2, they aren't social distancing!!!!"

happens every damn day. stupid after stupid calls.

Stores can only control the number of customers going in and out of the entrance/exit. No way they can demand people to disperse accordingly in narrow gorcery aisles...unless they hire someone with a bullhorn staring down each aisle to monitor people spacing.

Sad part is, police or bylaw officer were dispatched and saw the alleged social distancing concern to issue the fine.

HghSsociety wrote: ↑ The people that are complaining are most definitely not employees (in general) My wife is a 911 operator and the number of people who call to report violations are mind boggling. All the 911 call takers are fed up with it, it's all day every day. Forget the fact that they are calling 911 to begin with when it's not an emergency.

You have neighbours rating on other neighbours for having people over, people are calling in to complain about people in parks, schoolyards, hiking trails, businesses not following social distancing measures etc.

After learning which store got charged your probably correct, those employees would be to scared to complain, many of those employees are all family members.


The problem is if those people don't follow "social distancing" there's a chance they can spread the virus to others or get sick themselves. All that does is put a potential stress on the health system, here in Canada it hasn't been bad at all compared to other parts of the world.

idontwantausername wrote: ↑ yup.

"hello 9-1-1, do you need police, fire or ambulance?"
''POLICE!! there's a group of kids playing street hockey NOT social distancing''

Those are just stupid parents not acting responsibly then blaming society for their screw ups.

jackrabbit000 wrote: ↑ x2. I was at Safeway yesterday and everyone was social distancing and following the arrows on the floor. I was looking at some steaks that were on sale and a lady just walked up and stood right beside me looking for the same thing. Crazy, she was about 40, wasn't wearing a mask or anything, I just walked away.

I get ... not wanting to start anything
BUT ... I think that I would have spoke up
“Excuse me ... could you step back 6 feet until I am done here”

But ya ... walking away is prob easier
And then circling back (if you can) when she’s gone / space is empty again

jackrabbit000 wrote: ↑ x2. I was at Safeway yesterday and everyone was social distancing and following the arrows on the floor. I was looking at some steaks that were on sale and a lady just walked up and stood right beside me looking for the same thing. Crazy, she was about 40, wasn't wearing a mask or anything, I just walked away.

Before I walk away, I sarcastically ask "6 feet, right??"

well was she good lookin??

jackrabbit000 wrote: ↑ x2. I was at Safeway yesterday and everyone was social distancing and following the arrows on the floor. I was looking at some steaks that were on sale and a lady just walked up and stood right beside me looking for the same thing. Crazy, she was about 40, wasn't wearing a mask or anything, I just walked away.

sunnykw2305 wrote: ↑ Stores can only control the number of customers going in and out of the entrance/exit. No way they can demand people to disperse accordingly in narrow gorcery aisles...unless they hire someone with a bullhorn staring down each aisle to monitor people spacing.

Sad part is, police or bylaw officer were dispatched and saw the alleged social distancing concern to issue the fine.

Stores can also control the family groupings. Why does more than adult have to shop together?

As for narrow aisles, that is why they encourage one direction per aisle. That might become a permanent rule.

Using terms like "a bullhorn staring down each aisle" just trashes the value of the post. Larger stores have surveillance and intercom. I've seen women chatting in a grocery store and wished management would get on the intercom and urge them to continue shopping .... "Staff and customers would appreciate the two ladies chatting in the produce section continuing their shopping."

Marzipan wrote: ↑ Stores can also control the family groupings. Why does more than adult have to shop together?

As for narrow aisles, that is why they encourage one direction per aisle. That might become a permanent rule.

Using terms like "a bullhorn staring down each aisle" just trashes the value of the post. Larger stores have surveillance and intercom. I've seen women chatting in a grocery store and wished management would get on the intercom and urge them to continue shopping .... "Staff and customers would appreciate the two ladies chatting in the produce section continuing their shopping."

I doubt it. Most stores I go to in my area don't have them now.

tew wrote: ↑ I doubt it. Most stores I go to in my area don't have them now.

Wow! How many grocery stores are you going to at this time? How many of them have not marked direction of travel?

Marzipan wrote: ↑ Wow! How many grocery stores are you going to at this time? How many of them have not marked direction of travel?

Only one a week. Only Walmart (grocery lanes only) and Freshco have the lanes marked, RCSS, No Frills, Costco and Dollarama don't. I don't know about the other stores in my area. Also some locations let you bring in your own bins/reusable bags and some don't.

Primary prevention, don't offload your ignorance or lack of action to the health care system.

Visible store inspection passes may widen beyond restaurants if we have sustaining infection rates.

sunnykw2305 wrote: ↑ Stores can only control the number of customers going in and out of the entrance/exit. No way they can demand people to disperse accordingly in narrow gorcery aisles...unless they hire someone with a bullhorn staring down each aisle to monitor people spacing.

Sad part is, police or bylaw officer were dispatched and saw the alleged social distancing concern to issue the fine.

Indeed. Expectation of a full police state to ensure 100% compliance with public health guidelines, everywhere at all times, is ridiculous and unnecessary overreaction. A Simpsons episode comes to mind where the PA system in stores is used to "enforce" distancing by calling out "offenders". I swear if some crazy people had their way, they'd make grocery stores spray bleach concentrate from ceiling sprinkler heads, as if that would help.

Meanwhile, yesterday I saw a woman in Sobeys suspiciously opening multiple jars of VH sauce, presumably to sniff out which flavour she wanted. I only noticed because I heard several of the characteristic 'pop' sounds when the vacuum seal safety button in the cap is released. Gee, thanks for ruining store stock for everyone else, lady. Wearing black facemasks must embolden careless people to behave their worst, thinking their face is hidden from identification.

In the same Sobeys store, I also saw they crammed boardgames for sale into some of the empty spaces on aisle shelves. Where's the altruistic outrage about that? They can't replenish inventory shortages of frozen vegetables, canned soup, rice, or flour, but can take profiteering advantage of the coronapocalypse to sell opportunistic junk they'd otherwise never carry.