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If anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving, I am NOT drinking any f**** Merlot!
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Tig wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 10:00 am
If anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving, I am NOT drinking any f**** Merlot!
Such a great movie. I could watch it again and again, and I do. Fantastic film.

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Tig wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 10:00 am
If anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving, I am NOT drinking any f**** Merlot!
Even if its a 1961 Cheval Blanc? ;)
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fightbriz wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 3:17 am
Are you stating all this with specific information about this particular wine and that's how it's being produced? Or are you hypothesizing based on price? Or perhaps this is the "normal" way for wines at this price point to be produced (ie. Nothing wrong with the method, but just not a premium product)?
there are certain tells in the label:
1) no vintage year

2) no bodega (winery or wine cellar)

i'm not a sommelier like the other poster, but was a vineyard manager who worked closely with the vintner
if anyone is interested here are the canadian laws for what is/is not allowed in 'wine', scroll down to B.02.100
then from there provinces have their own regulations about naming and percentages of components (bc - here ontario - here)

like i said, i have no problem with this particular wine, only with the purposely misleading review
and maybe a little bit with people thinking they are getting a harvested grape from a specific vineyard, crushed on-site, barrelled,
and cellared until it's ready to be bottled
it simply does not work like that for these types of wines

i'd encourage everyone who has not, to visit a canadian winery and take the tour,
even if you don't buy anything, it is worth it to see the process from ground to plant to harvest to bottle
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midget_man wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 10:49 am

Such a great movie. I could watch it again and again, and I do. Fantastic film.

I've actually never seen the movie, but from what I'm told, he drinks Merlot at the end.
Lots of really good Merlots out there, especially out of Napa,
This is one case where herd mentality is NOT a good thing!
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Mar 10th, 2019 1:25 pm
there are certain tells in the label:
1) no vintage year
2) only a country of origin, no Denominación de Origen (DO)
3) no bodega (winery or wine cellar)

i'm not a sommelier like the other poster, but was a vineyard manager who worked closely with the vintner
if anyone is interested here are the canadian laws for what is/is not allowed in 'wine', scroll down to B.02.100
then from there provinces have their own regulations about naming and percentages of components (bc - here ontario - here)

like i said, i have no problem with this particular wine, only with the purposely misleading review
and maybe a little bit with people thinking they are getting a harvested grape from a specific vineyard, crushed on-site, barrelled,
and cellared until it's ready to be bottled
it simply does not work like that for these types of wines

i'd encourage everyone who has not, to visit a canadian winery and take the tour,
even if you don't buy anything, it is worth it to see the process from ground to plant to harvest to bottle
To be fair, it does have a DO (basic Valencia) but you're not getting terroir out of this wine and there are a few virtual wineries in ON and BC that do care about quality but the Toro is certainly not it. You have to go to the Yecla sub-appellation for the good stuff.
I do agree that the Star is misleading with their points scale (I'd say points in general is an out of control joke) but let's be honest, this wine is only going to be aged for about 10-15mins or however long it takes you to get from the lcbo to cook supper.

I 1000% agree that people should visit a Canadian winery. The best stuff is rarely available at the lcbo in Ontario.
Not sure about BC stores, but the Okanagan Valley is gorgeous! As much as I like to visit Ontario wineries, the winery scenery out west are jaw dropping beautiful on a whole other level. I'm often tempted to just pack up and move out west.

Honourable mention to the wineries out east as well. The Annapolis Valley in NS is also a beautiful!
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I realise reading this thread that wine snob are annoying, but I have to say much much less than coffee snob.

Those are still the worst.
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IceBlueShoes wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 1:47 pm

To be fair, it does have a DO (basic Valencia) but you're not getting terroir out of this wine and there are a few virtual wineries in ON and BC that do care about quality but the Toro is certainly not it. You have to go to the Yecla sub-appellation for the good stuff.
I do agree that the Star is misleading with their points scale (I'd say points in general is an out of control joke) but let's be honest, this wine is only going to be aged for about 10-15mins or however long it takes you to get from the lcbo to cook supper.

I 1000% agree that people should visit a Canadian winery. The best stuff is rarely available at the lcbo in Ontario.
Not sure about BC stores, but the Okanagan Valley is gorgeous! As much as I like to visit Ontario wineries, the winery scenery out west are jaw dropping beautiful on a whole other level. I'm often tempted to just pack up and move out west.

Honourable mention to the wineries out east as well. The Annapolis Valley in NS is also a beautiful!
thank you for that correction
the only pics i could find with a close-up of the label did not show that
i'll amend my other post

work sure was nice when you are in the vineyard overlooking the lake and/or hillsides of the okanagan,
then a swim and relaxing on the beach after
even better without the work part!

it's like anything you consume, some things are better than others
it does not make one a snob for pointing this out (coffee, wine, beer, cinnamon buns, etc.)
there have been plenty of posts with reasonably priced wine
there are some good vqa canadian wines that are fairly inexpensive as well,
made with 100% canadian estate grown grapes that are harvested/processed/cellared on-site
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Kfox wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 3:59 pm
I'm off to LCBO to pick up some Santa Rita Medalla Real Gran Reserva Cabernet Sauvignon 2015. Discontinued for $11.95, reg $17.90. Thurlow gives it an 89. Vovino gives it a 3.7. Bronze medal winner at IWC.
http://www.vintages.com/lcbo-ear/vintag ... e=Vintages
Nice OP. I was about to post that. By the way I am a Red wine only type of guy. Also for those who like to save and not wine about it.

Reds on Clearnce:

1. Lindemans Bin 40 Merlot 1.5 L $22.95 for $14.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVx9qRE2Ec
2. Thorn-Clarke Barossa Grenache Shiraz $17.95 to $11.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVyWqRE2Ec
3. SANTA RITA MEDALLA REAL GRAN RESERVA CABERNET SAUVIGNON $17.95 to $11.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV1xaRE2Ec
4. Santa Rita Reserva Carmenère $14.95 to $9.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVy_qRE2Ec
5. SANTA RITA 120 RESERVA ESPECIAL MERLOT $11.75 to $7.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVzaqRE2Ec
6. JACOB'S CREEK RESERVE CABERNET SAUVIGNON (Just on sale) $17.95 to $13.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV0EqRE2Ec

Whites on Clearance:

1. ROLLING PINOT GRIGIO $14.70 to $8.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV0gKRE2Ec
2. NUGAN ESTATE ANNELISE PINOT GRIGIO $15.25 to $9.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV1DaRE2Ec
3. Rose Hill Chardonnay VQA $13.10 to $9.75
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV2oqRE2Ec
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gmoney506 wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 4:41 pm
Nice OP. I was about to post that. By the way I am a Red wine only type of guy. Also for those who like to save and not wine about it.

Reds on Clearnce:
Just wondering how do you go about to get the information regarding discontinued?
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trixR4kids wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 4:56 pm
Just wondering how do you go about to get the information regarding discontinued?
I sent you a PM.
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gmoney506 wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 4:41 pm
Nice OP. I was about to post that. By the way I am a Red wine only type of guy. Also for those who like to save and not wine about it.

Reds on Clearnce:

1. Lindemans Bin 40 Merlot 1.5 L $22.95 for $14.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVx9qRE2Ec
2. Thorn-Clarke Barossa Grenache Shiraz $17.95 to $11.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVyWqRE2Ec
3. SANTA RITA MEDALLA REAL GRAN RESERVA CABERNET SAUVIGNON $17.95 to $9.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV1xaRE2Ec
4. Santa Rita Reserva Carmenère $14.95 to $9.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVy_qRE2Ec
5. SANTA RITA 120 RESERVA ESPECIAL MERLOT $11.75 to $7.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IVzaqRE2Ec
6. JACOB'S CREEK RESERVE CABERNET SAUVIGNON (Just on sale) $17.95 to $13.95
https://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/product/produ ... IV0EqRE2Ec
Uh-oh, Hammand gave the Thorn-Clark a 94 Winking Face

"This is a Grenache Shiraz with gravitas — a serious, bone-dry, almost austere red that will appeal to the connoisseur looking for sophistication and finesse. Cool aromas of blackberries edged with notes of stones and steel lead to an elegant entry that suggests violets, minerals and black plum held taut with bracing acidity. Then, stones and blackberries return on the slightly chalky finish. Here, power presents itself quietly with steely stony resolve rather than robust muscularity. Totally my style of wine. In fact, I can’t wait to purchase and pour it again. Probably with braised short rib. 94. "
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gmoney506 wrote:
Mar 10th, 2019 4:41 pm
Nice OP. I was about to post that. By the way I am a Red wine only type of guy. Also for those who like to save and not wine about it.

Reds on Clearnce:
Vivino 3.7 on a few. Yeah, finally some real drinkable table wine! Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes

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