[Lenovo Canada] Lenovo IdeaPad S340 Ryzen 3/15.6"(1920 x 1080)/8GB/256SSD $504

in 1999 12" laptop $1500. 15" - $2500. In 2019. 12" $2500 and 15" - sub $1500. Hope the message is clear.

lincoln wrote: ↑

Sep 11th, 2019 3:15 pm

This is an extremely slow laptop. Only scores 4800 in CPU bench and the Vega 3 can't play any modern games.

To give you an idea of how slow it is, the $500 HP laptop I bought in 2011 with an i5-2450m scores 3400 and a 7690m xt graphics card is only 5% slower.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... 0U&id=3431
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... GHz&id=800

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/A ... 366vsm7769

vintazh wrote: ↑

Sep 11th, 2019 7:57 pm

Agreed. This is an extremely weak CPU. I can't believe the graphics card performs even worse than Intel's - it was normally the other way around. My $500 i5-7200U 1080p 2017 Dell laptop has a score of 900 (HD 620) in the 3d passmark benchmark compared to 700 in this laptop.

Newsflash - check any other 600-700$ laptops in the market and compare. The mobile CPUs did not improve in performance since like 2014. What CPU's improved in is power consumption so 1. Longer run on battery 2. Allows for making slim chassis laptops.
Does this suck? Maybe. But majority of customers for this price range won't do multi-core rendering or other heavy CPU use tasks. And people who will, have the option to pay double for the 9300H+ series

The biggest change in the game since then were 1. Making SSD drives common and cost effective 2. Increased RAM on average by 2GB 3. The gaming laptops started getting proper discrete cards that do not differ much from desktop card performance

Getting tired of RFD people going with "my XYZ laptop that i bought this many years ago has the same performance"
I'll sum it up with:
1. You want a work laptop? Get something up to 700$. Anything above you are paying for aesthetics (better screen, touch, ???) or minor upgrades that you can add later (RAM, bigger drive)
2. You want a gaming / CAD laptop? Perfect timing. Cause since geforce 1060 series you will actually get value for money, but you still gonna have to shell out $1k+.

Quake94 wrote: ↑

Sep 11th, 2019 8:23 pm

Newsflash - check any other 600-700$ laptops in the market and compare. The mobile CPUs did not improve in performance since like 2014. What CPU's improved in is power consumption so 1. Longer run on battery 2. Allows for making slim chassis laptops.
Does this suck? Maybe. But majority of customers for this price range won't do multi-core rendering or other heavy CPU use tasks. And people who will, have the option to pay double for the 9300H+ series

The biggest change in the game since then were 1. Making SSD drives common and cost effective 2. Increased RAM on average by 2GB 3. The gaming laptops started getting proper discrete cards that do not differ much from desktop card performance

Getting tired of RFD people going with "my XYZ laptop that i bought this many years ago has the same performance"
I'll sum it up with:
1. You want a work laptop? Get something up to 700$. Anything above you are paying for aesthetics (better screen, touch, ???) or minor upgrades that you can add later (RAM, bigger drive)
2. You want a gaming / CAD laptop? Perfect timing. Cause since geforce 1060 series you will actually get value for money, but you still gonna have to shell out $1k+.

I don't know why you're getting your panties in a bunch, do you happen to work for Lenovo? I know what reasonable expectations are for a $500 laptop in 2019. And I know at this price range it's not meant to be a workstation grade machine. I have my desktop and my gaming laptop for that. The reason why some of us complain about the weak CPU is that seemingly 'light' workloads require increasingly higher processing power. Using Chrome in 2019 requires a decent 3d graphics accelerator - webpages are no longer static and have a lot of HTML5 canvas drawings and client side javascript. I know my 7200U struggled loading some Angular applications back then, and today Angular is used in an incredibly high number of webpages. A 1080p screen won't be useful if your GPU can't handle 1080p Youtube. And these crappy CPUs have forced processing constraints not because of power requirements, it's simply to provide a tiered lineup and penalize lower price points. Releasing 2-core CPU laptops in 2019 is ridiculous.

vintazh wrote: ↑

Sep 11th, 2019 7:57 pm

Agreed. This is an extremely weak CPU. I can't believe the graphics card performs even worse than Intel's - it was normally the other way around. My $500 i5-7200U 1080p 2017 Dell laptop has a score of 900 (HD 620) in the 3d passmark benchmark compared to 700 in this laptop.

Yup, the Intel 620 and 630 destroys the Vega 3 graphics.

There's an Intel i5-8xxx series on the forum for $650 right now that scores 8000 and absolutely destroys this laptop.

lincoln wrote: ↑

Sep 12th, 2019 12:02 am

Yup, the Intel 620 and 630 destroys the Vega 3 graphics.

There's an Intel i5-8xxx series on the forum for $650 right now that scores 8000 and absolutely destroys this laptop.

Which deal is that?
I use a TON of google maps in 3d format + gmail + other heavy online rendering websites (think zoning laws for real estate) and my computer is having a hard time (core i5 4210U) with 4gb of ram from Acer with an SSD in it. Just want something I can use that will be faster. I look at like 150+ buildings a day so yeah....even 1 or two seconds for each page makes a big difference.

sspikey wrote: ↑

Sep 12th, 2019 8:49 am

Which deal is that?
I use a TON of google maps in 3d format + gmail + other heavy online rendering websites (think zoning laws for real estate) and my computer is having a hard time (core i5 4210U) with 4gb of ram from Acer with an SSD in it. Just want something I can use that will be faster. I look at like 150+ buildings a day so yeah....even 1 or two seconds for each page makes a big difference.

I think it's this one: [Costco] Dell Inspiron 15 5000 Laptop

100OceanSpray wrote: ↑

Sep 12th, 2019 11:28 am

I think it's this one: [Costco] Dell Inspiron 15 5000 Laptop

Yeah that's the one.
Almost twice as fast and comes with Costco warranty too.

Would be $530.85 taxes In. BC.

Could someone kindly briefly describe how to compare laptop/CPU performances?
More specifically, 1) I have seen two sets of scoring mentioned in this thread in 100s vs in 1000s , why is that? 2) For the cpubenchmark.com website what's a decent ball-park minimum score these days for a non-gaming work laptop (say for tasks vintazh mentioned such as Angular applications or 1080 youtube etc) ? (8000?)

Isn't the processor a Ryzen 5 3500U, and not the Ryzen 3 as described in the OP? Also - I'm getting $579.99 and not $529.99.

Better than the ThinkPad X270 deal

There seem to be a lot of computer literate people in this thread so I had this question in my mind for awhile.

If one had this setup, would you say this is the bare minimum for specs in 2019. Meaning anything lower would not likely perform very well?

Intel® Core™ i5-8265U Processor
8 GB DDR4 2400MHz
256GB Solid State Drive, PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0 M.2
Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 620

Is the i5 8265U the bare minimum one should strive for? A colleague told me the i3's are garbage, akin to celeron type processing and the i5 is the absolute min. and even then, he would never use an i5 processor.

I know the Ram isn't the greatest, but I feel 8GB is enough for everyday netflix and chrome browsing.

Thanks

jellytime wrote: ↑

Oct 9th, 2019 3:58 pm

There seem to be a lot of computer literate people in this thread so I had this question in my mind for awhile.

If one had this setup, would you say this is the bare minimum for specs in 2019. Meaning anything lower would not likely perform very well?

Intel® Core™ i5-8265U Processor
8 GB DDR4 2400MHz
256GB Solid State Drive, PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0 M.2
Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 620

Is the i5 8265U the bare minimum one should strive for? A colleague told me the i3's are garbage, akin to celeron type processing and the i5 is the absolute min. and even then, he would never use an i5 processor.

I know the Ram isn't the greatest, but I feel 8GB is enough for everyday netflix and chrome browsing.

Thanks

The $199 HP Stream 14 will work just fine for some uses. I am using a similar speced machine to what you described, and its a nice general usage to power user tool with moderate upgrades. I would use this spec for photo processing, but certainly not 4k video editing. I have an Omen tower for that.

I have been handed less powerful laptops in corporate environments and they worked fine. YMMV

Man, For do people expect a Gaming laptop for $500?
This is a great Entertainment laptop (Like it says) and that's it.

Best gaming laptop for your buck is the ASUS TUF FX505DT-UB52 from Microsoft store for 760$, Maybe that's up your alley for some people?

gemino wrote: ↑

Sep 11th, 2019 7:51 pm

Bought the Intel version with 5% off code plus rebates last night, item just shipped this afternoon.

Thanks OP. My first non Thinkpad Lenovo.

Is that the one thats about $200 more?