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[Lenovo Canada] ThinkPad & IdeaPad - EPP Discounted

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MusicEveryday wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 1:28 pm
Sorry, had to wait until my official break. See attached :)
OK, thanks. Just noticed the timings on the Micron and Samsung are the same - CL19. Would be interesting how much would performance improve if replaced with 2666 ram with better timings, like this CL15 model: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N7K4DV4/
Probably not by much.
Edit: Actually CL15 could improve performance a bit. Found this example: https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments ... 9_to_cl15/
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MusicEveryday wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 1:28 pm
Sorry, had to wait until my official break. See attached :)
This is weird, found an example for an H cpu where HWinfo and CPUZ will report 2666 but XTU reports 2400: https://i.imgur.com/hrfGibQ.png
If you have XTU installed can you please check and post what it says under System Information>Memory>Default Speed. Thanks!
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ciuvak wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 1:49 pm
OK, thanks. Just noticed the timings on the Micron and Samsung are the same - CL19. Would be interesting how much would performance improve if replaced with 2666 ram with better timings, like this CL15 model: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N7K4DV4/
Probably not by much.
Edit: Actually CL15 could improve performance a bit. Found this example: https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments ... 9_to_cl15/
Hmm food for thought anyways, to me it's not going to be worth the hassle of having to sell the single 16GB stick, and then buy a 32GB kit. Especially when the extra RAM is just adding dual channel and giving me hobby space for VMs.
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ciuvak wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 2:14 pm
This is weird, found an example for an H cpu where HWinfo and CPUZ will report 2666 but XTU reports 2400: https://i.imgur.com/hrfGibQ.png
If you have XTU installed can you please check and post what it says under System Information>Memory>Default Speed. Thanks!
Confirmed in XTU it reports 2667. Can provide a pic on my lunch break if needed.

Edit: Disclaimer, I do have an under-volt -.150mv and a very conservative OC [bumped the multiplier up by 1 for all the different active core settings]
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ciuvak wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 1:49 pm
OK, thanks. Just noticed the timings on the Micron and Samsung are the same - CL19. Would be interesting how much would performance improve if replaced with 2666 ram with better timings, like this CL15 model: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01N7K4DV4/
Probably not by much.
Edit: Actually CL15 could improve performance a bit. Found this example: https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments ... 9_to_cl15/
He's also running a GTX1070 in the razer laptop i think,

i know from past overclocking experience it kinda makes a difference in synthetic benchmarks, but in real life you will probably not notice any difference.

Agree with @MusicEveryday not worth the hassle for me either
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MusicEveryday wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 2:21 pm
Confirmed in XTU it reports 2667. Can provide a pic on my lunch break if needed.
Thanks! No need for pic. I think I figured it out. Some ram has 2666 enabled under XMP profile only, not JEDEC spec. So that's why it defaults to 2400 because that is the highest JEDEC it is configured under. But even on those laptops if you try a different brand that is listed as 2666 under JEDEC, it will run at 2666.
I might sell the original Lenovo stick if I decide to upgrade to 32GB, so it might be worth it getting faster CL ram if it's a the same price as the slower CL ram. Lots of people don't look at these features in so much detail, but I'm usually interested to squeeze as much performance as the system is capable of.
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elitekillah wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 2:26 pm
He's also running a GTX1070 in the razer laptop i think,
i know from past overclocking experience it kinda makes a difference in synthetic benchmarks, but in real life you will probably not notice any difference.
Agree with @MusicEveryday not worth the hassle for me either
I need the P1 for CAD. Some models are quite large, so faster ram could give a small bump in performance. Very niche scenario, for sure not worth for casual users.
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any warranty problems when applying thermal paste? (Especially for the one above needing extra care in handling)
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Troy_McClure wrote:
Nov 21st, 2018 9:50 pm
any warranty problems when applying thermal paste? (Especially for the one above needing extra care in handling)
No issues unless the computer short circuits because of leaked liquid metal. And, if that's the case, you will see the leaked liquid metal on said component. I'm sure this is more common of an issue with gaming laptops as users try to squeeze every ounce of performance out from them.

A well-cooled and overclocked i7-8850h seems to be on par with a Xeon E-2176M in geekbench benchmarks. That's definitely good value for your money right there since the Xeon machine costs a lot more. I will share benchmarks after.

Now have it running at 4.45Ghz for up to 3 cores and temperatures between 85 and 89C at this setting.

I.e: Will run perfectly at 4.45 GHz for all casual tasks, not just when pushing CPU utilization up to 100%.
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Any laptop recommendations for a BF deal in the $800 range? No specific requirements, just looking for 13-14" for light use.
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tebore wrote:
Nov 22nd, 2018 10:09 am
Discount ends up being the same as on the normal site with THINKBLKFRI :( Was hoping for 40%+ off.
Using THINKBLKFRI 35%off with 10% cash back from ebates is the best option now. Or if you can get 10% in Aeroplan miles now too (instead of ebates)

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