[Lenovo Canada] ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8, i5-10210U, 16G RAM, 512G SSD, FHD 400 nits, $1170

I’m most likely out-of-the-loop on this one, but how is this a good deal ? Specs are decent, but nowhere near what I’d expect to get for 1300. Is it the build quality on these machine that make it worthwhile ?

Not downvoting, genuinely curious ..

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SimonL556 wrote: ↑ I’m most likely out-of-the-loop on this one, but how is this a good deal ? Specs are decent, but nowhere near what I’d expect to get for 1300. Is it the build quality on these machine that make it worthwhile ?

Not downvoting, genuinely curious ..

Material, build quality, durability, and light weight. See below for a review:
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/lenovo-th ... gen-8-2020

If you only compare this deal with previous ThinkPad X1 deal it would be a pretty decent deal.

The only problems is that AMD provide MUCH MORE performance at this price range with the new Ryzen 4000 processors, which makes this deal not so hot any more.

qfli78 wrote: ↑ https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/perkopolis ... 20U9001PUS

Processor: 10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-10210U Processor (1.60 GHz, up to 4.20 GHz with Turbo Boost, 4 Cores, 8 Threads, 6 MB Cache)
Display: 14.0" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare, 400 nits
Memory: 16 GB LPDDR3 2133MHz (Soldered), no sockets
Hard Drive: 512 GB PCIe SSD
Dimensions: 323mm x 217mm x 14.9mm
Weight: 2.4 lb / 1.09 kg

$1325 via EPP

Reasonably good price for a premium lightweight laptop with 16GB RAM.

Too bad no touchscreen or pen input option.

Ha0cheers wrote: ↑ If you only compare this deal with previous ThinkPad X1 deal it would be a pretty decent deal.

The only problems is that AMD provide MUCH MORE performance at this price range with the new Ryzen 4000 processors, which makes this deal not so hot any more.

Can't get an AMD X1 Carbon. So if an X1 Carbon is what you want, you'll have to settle for Intel. And if you want an X1 Carbon, performance ain't what you're after.

Just checked my email, exactly 5 years+1 day ago I bought an x1 carbon. One month later, there was a much better deal for Black Friday and Lenovo doesn’t price match. The agent even told me that Black Friday deals are usually the best.

Do you think the X1 Carbons will ever have AMD ryzens in them?

GoKartRacer wrote: ↑ Do you think the X1 Carbons will ever have AMD ryzens in them?

Not anytime soon, Intel worked with Lenovo to R&D the X1C and with Dell on XPS. The T14s 4750 32gb is probably the best bet.

davext wrote: ↑ Just checked my email, exactly 5 years+1 day ago I bought an x1 carbon. One month later, there was a much better deal for Black Friday and Lenovo doesn’t price match. The agent even told me that Black Friday deals are usually the best.

Good to know. Do u like your X1 carbon?

qfli78 wrote: ↑ Good to know. Do u like your X1 carbon?

I have X1 carbon as work computer. To me it's a very good laptop. $1325 is a very good price, although not sure it can be better by Black Friday.

How much after tax?

Elec2016 wrote: ↑ I have X1 carbon as work computer. To me it's a very good laptop. $1325 is a very good price, although not sure it can be better by Black Friday.

Agree. I have been following up with X1C for quite some time. X1C with 16 GB RAM usually costs at least $1500. This one also has relatively new CPU.
With RAM being soldered, 16 GB RAM is almost a must.

yamaha0714 wrote: ↑ Not anytime soon, Intel worked with Lenovo to R&D the X1C and with Dell on XPS. The T14s 4750 32gb is probably the best bet.

Appreciate the insight and suggestion. Thank you. That’s too bad on the no AMD but I guess makes sense, intel prob has some period of exclusivity. Thanks again

SimonL556 wrote: ↑ I’m most likely out-of-the-loop on this one, but how is this a good deal ? Specs are decent, but nowhere near what I’d expect to get for 1300. Is it the build quality on these machine that make it worthwhile ?

Not downvoting, genuinely curious ..

As was already brought up indirectly, a lot of people have these as their work computer so people have a lot of experience with them. Pretty sure these are over 2 grand regularly so if you're comparing against an Acer Swift with a Ryzen it's ~3x more expensive but it's just a solid machine so you can't really compare. Actually I just clicked on the link and the regular price is almost 4 grand, which doesn't surprise me as I have an 8th gen with 8gb RAM for work that was over 2 grand.

seems like a good deal. 14" screen at 2.5lbs sounds pretty good. Anyone know what the battery life on these are?

My wife has an xps13 9360 which is similar in form factor, but the battery life really was misleading. They advertise is at 13hrs, but she'll be lucky to get 7 and this is after i did a lot of tweaking/optimization. Prior to tweaking is was like 4-5hrs.

Also, been tracking these for a few years and never pulled the trigger. Of course, I'm always wanting the (probably unnecessary) higher res screen, which never go on sale and now the X1s are moving away from the higher res panels which now are more placed on the Yoga line.

Anyways, the last couple years, the EPP deals around this time frame a few weeks out from BF were just as good or better than the EPP BF deals.

The deals before BF were the same as the non EPP deals for the couple days around BF, but then you're looking at longer shipping times, basically getting the laptop almost 2 months later then if you ordered today, as everyone rushes to all these sites trying to find a deal on BF.

2020 could be different but my educated guess is you won't see this particular configuration, much cheaper, if at all, on BF.

The laptop isn't leading edge specs as much as it used to be, but it's bullet proof, proven year over year for its premium and durable build and quality, ultralight, solid warranty options, and pretty much universally praised for the best laptop keyboard in the business for years.

Don't know if Lenovo QC has improved--but lower QC seems to affect all brands including Apple. My X1C 8th Gen Intel CPU had issues including but not limited to an uneven lid, loud fan, and the webcam cover fell off. (Mostly known issues on Lenovo forums/reddit.)

Not something I expect from ThinkPad laptops--older ones are more durable/better constructed IMO. Dealing with Lenovo reps was a nightmare; one seemed intoxicated/high and had a repair shipping label shipped to the wrong place. Another Lenovo rep was better, but still ship a return shipping label to the wrong place again. (I didn't move at all from the time of purchase to the time of repair, and they're able to ship to the correct address when I purchased it.) Took the 3rd time before they're able to ship the return shipping box to the right address.

Had to deal with Apple reps in recent days, and they're not that much better. The first (chat) agent scheduled the phone agent to call me when the sales dept was closed. The call back system didn't work either. The 2nd agent was able to give a case # verbally and also emailed a confirmation with a case #. The 3rd agent said the case # was not in the system. And Apple online return system was a joke. Instead of just emailing the return shipping label, I got a link which asks to either login to Apple account or enter (email address+order #); I chose the latter, but still get redirect to another screen asking for Apple account login anyway. Sorry for the off-topic/rant! From my recent experiences, I would be wary of buying from an online store without a physical store-with the exception of Amazon.

SimonL556 wrote: ↑Specs are decent, but nowhere near what I’d expect to get for 1300. Is it the build quality on these machine that make it worthwhile ?

You have to hold it in your hands to know. I've owned ThinkPads for over 20 years, and when I bought an X1 Yoga (same class as X1C), I was like, "Holy shizz, this is the nicest notebook I've ever owned."

Details like a glass touchpad don't appear on spec sheets (unless it's Apple, over-hyping ).

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Mint wrote: ↑Anyone know what the battery life on these are?

You can check
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ThinkPad- ... 942.0.html
You can pull up other models they've reviewed to compare.