(AMAZON.ca) WD D10 Game Drive - 12TB $249.99

jaksdj22 wrote: ↑ It’s faster than SSD ?

Its a spinner so no.

I'm tempted to add this an an external to my janky ds220j setup. But yeah does this actually run hot and as loud as people are saying?

Right now I have 2 16tb gold drives in the machine, then a 12tb easy store and 10tb elements plugged in (you can add more with a hub).

Should I get this and say whatever or wait for black Friday if I can? HGST is good generally but the referenced noise and heat is concerning. For reference a bit of noise is entirely fine. There are already 4 drives there lol

What do y'all think?

Edit: basically I fully expect the easystore to get to 250 or lower again at black Friday for 12tb. Would y'all take this or that as a secondary nas drive mainly for media? Not constant access. Thanks

I have the 8TB version of this drive. I wouldn't recommend the enclosure. It has a fan inside, but still will constantly overheat and disconnect itself. There is a hard limit of 50-55C where it will refuse to operate above. I had to get a separate usb fan to point at it to keep it cool enough.

capricious63 wrote: ↑ I have the 8TB version of this drive. I wouldn't recommend the enclosure. It has a fan inside, but still will constantly overheat and disconnect itself. There is a hard limit of 50-55C where it will refuse to operate above. I had to get a separate usb fan to point at it to keep it cool enough.

See this is good info. You would think the Xbox line would be well built and idiot proof but maybe they went too much for gamer looks over function. No such issues with the easystore which also looks to have a smaller footprint.

Edit: This is what I mean:
280 currently and has been historically sold for 250 already
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/wd ... y/14936769

Can I connect this to my router and use it as a NAS?

capricious63 wrote: ↑ I have the 8TB version of this drive. I wouldn't recommend the enclosure. It has a fan inside, but still will constantly overheat and disconnect itself. There is a hard limit of 50-55C where it will refuse to operate above. I had to get a separate usb fan to point at it to keep it cool enough.

Very nice inform. I can imagine a 7200rpm drive would run hot, but not expecting a fan in the enclosure would still not be enough.

Probably better if you shuck this drive honestly.

Transferring 4tb over to it right now,

I'll report back about the heat.

Have been using WD_Gaming_Drive_Accelerated_for_Xbox_One SSD
for a while now. The 1TB SSD has been great. Will now be able to now transfer from the 12 TB spinner to the 1TB ssd at 250mb/s when desired.

launch wrote: ↑Have been using WD_Gaming_Drive_Accelerated_for_Xbox_One SSD
for a while now. The 1TB SSD has been great. Will now be able to now transfer from the 12 TB spinner to the 1TB ssd at 250mb/s when desired.

I see no worthwhile advantages with a SSD for consoles. To each of their own.

$/TB is not worth it, the only gains are transfer speeds but it's still limited by USB 3.0 on the Xbox....and makes little to no performance difference on games (besides 2-3 extra seconds loading on some games). You still cannot run a Series X/S games directly off of these just like a mechanical drive.

I have this. It’s VERY fast for a spinning HDD. Around 350-mbps.

You will get excellent load times in older game

Did a lot of testing. It’s has shockingly good performance for a hard drive

window shopper wrote: ↑ I see no worthwhile advantages with a SSD for consoles. To each of their own.

$/TB is not worth it, the only gains are transfer speeds but it's still limited by USB 3.0 on the Xbox....and makes little to no performance difference on games (besides 2-3 extra seconds loading on some games). You still cannot run a Series X/S games directly off of these just like a mechanical drive.

You are probably correct. Guess the only advantage I'll continue to have with the SSD is it's easy and safe to carry to a friends place.

Mephod wrote: ↑I have this. It’s VERY fast for a spinning HDD. Around 350-mbps.

You will get excellent load times in older game

Did a lot of testing. It’s has shockingly good performance for a hard drive

Interesting, I've seen ~250 MB/s max when downloading and transferring with this drive, which I'm quite happy with. I did open it up at one point and found one of the Ultrastar enterprise drives inside (8TB version). It's possible I got a bad unit and others won't have overheating problems.

capricious63 wrote: ↑ Interesting, I've seen ~250 MB/s max when downloading and transferring with this drive, which I'm quite happy with. I did open it up at one point and found one of the Ultrastar enterprise drives inside (8TB version). It's possible I got a bad unit and others won't have overheating problems.

The speed is dependant on file size. Smaller files transfer slower, bigger files faster. You could see like 10mbps if you are moving many tiny files versus a single big zip or something

Also depends on the bit size you used when formatting the drive. Lots of nuance

Rudy wrote: ↑ 20.83/tb makes it good but not unheard of if you plan on using it as a regular hard drive

Actually it depends because this is a faster drive if you plan on running things directly off it instead of just media/storage. Most $20/tb drives tend to be 5400 rpm instead of 7200 rpm. That said, I can’t see many scenarios where I would run something off a 7200rpm drive instead of a ssd these days.

capricious63 wrote: ↑ Interesting, I've seen ~250 MB/s max when downloading and transferring with this drive, which I'm quite happy with. I did open it up at one point and found one of the Ultrastar enterprise drives inside (8TB version). It's possible I got a bad unit and others won't have overheating problems.

This is the correct answer as thats its top speed. I'm sure the person you quoted is incorrect as first of all he's stating mbps which is abut 43.7MB/s and secondly that would make it the fastest spinner in existances without being a hybrid drive. If he did mean MB/s then most likely that is just a burst speed until the cache is filled.

crazyea wrote: ↑
This is the correct answer as thats its top speed. I'm sure the person you quoted is incorrect as first of all he's stating mbps which is abut 43.7MB/s and secondly that would make it the fastest spinner in existances without being a hybrid drive. If he did mean MB/s then most likely that is just a burst speed until the cache is filled.

Transferring 4tb from external to external (both hooked up to series x) and showing speeds of 933mbps -1.04 right now. I checked the heat by touch, warm but not hot at all.

From what i can tell the fan hasn't come on yet, or it's just super quiet. I also feel no heat coming out the back near the vents. So far so

U4LIFE wrote: ↑ Sucks, but 100% expected and necessary, this hard drive is far to slow for anything but playing older games.

Series S / X games require the higher speeds and low latency of the nvme based expansion drive they sell for a lot more $

Could be wrong but I heard that Seagate has exclusivity for x years before Microsoft opens it up to third parties. For now, I have a T5 SSD to store games and move them over when needed.

This was a terrible move in context of Xbox series vs. PS5. Not only is the Xbox expansion card outdated, it also costs a lot more.

OOS

window shopper wrote: ↑ Transferring 4tb from external to external (both hooked up to series x) and showing speeds of 933mbps -1.04 right now. I checked the heat by touch, warm but not hot at all.

From what i can tell the fan hasn't come on yet, or it's just super quiet. I also feel no heat coming out the back near the vents. So far so

That’s about 110-115MB/s. Let me know how it is after 4TB. It’ll probably be pretty warm.

Nubby666 wrote: ↑ Decent deal but with cloud gaming and gamepass i barely download my games these days unless it forces me to.

Sure, this is a 12 tb drive that works with anything else.