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Long flight and Buying an extra seat

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[OP]
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Long flight and Buying an extra seat

We have 4 people(3 x adults and 1 x 5yr boy) traveling from Asia to Canada (16hr approximately). And one of the adults has back issue so I was going to get her business class seat.

Business class costs $4000 and economy $1400 so I can buy 3 economy(almost) to buy 1 business.

If I buy an extra seat, 5yr old and the adult with back issue can share 3 seats and they maybe lie down. Also I can save some money (Not sure if it's gonna be as comfortable as business bed).

My question is.... can I buy an extra seat without the passenger assigned?

I am not 100% sure about this idea but it might work out.
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Why not just a single Premium Economy seat for the person with the back issue?
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Mulder and Scully wrote: Why not just a single Premium Economy seat for the person with the back issue?
I find premium economy isnt that comfortable.
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Aug 10, 2010
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Don't do this OP. This is a typical thought that non FFers have which will inevitably get you burned. You don't buy a seat on a plane, read the conditions of carriage.

You may well end up spending $ to buy what you think is a seat next to you, only to have a mechanical swap and to have that seat beside you moved to another seat, thus you end up paying for 18A when you're in 29D. Also, because the seat next to you doesn't "check in", it can very well be given to another passenger in a IDB scenario, etc.

There's about a million other reasons I can think of which makes what you are attempting a risky financial disaster.
Don't be a cooch.
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Discussed at length here:

https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-g1 ... ravel.html

Where this is most often used is when somebody is too large to fit in a standard economy seat (bodybuilder, obese, etc) and needs to buy 2 seats. "Bad back" would fall under this category (for medical reasons you need the extra space and are willing to pay for it).

Consensus answer from that TripAdvisor thread is, book directly with the airline to specify this is what you need and they will be able to flag your booking as you needing the extra seat (so that the extra pax isn't bumped as a no-show to make room for a standby, which would be the usual situation if you tried to buy 3 seats and only 2 people check in).
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EastGTARedFlagger wrote: Discussed at length here:

https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-g1 ... ravel.html

Where this is most often used is when somebody is too large to fit in a standard economy seat (bodybuilder, obese, etc) and needs to buy 2 seats. "Bad back" would fall under this category (for medical reasons you need the extra space and are willing to pay for it).

Consensus answer from that TripAdvisor thread is, book directly with the airline to specify this is what you need and they will be able to flag your booking as you needing the extra seat (so that the extra pax isn't bumped as a no-show to make room for a standby, which would be the usual situation if you tried to buy 3 seats and only 2 people check in).
I really want to ask this question to aircanada but I cant reach their call center due to"higher than normal volume" for two days. I think they might allow it if we provide doctors note.

Not sure if 3 seats of economy is more comfortable than 1 business seat.
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hogujak wrote:
Not sure if 3 seats of economy is more comfortable than 1 business seat.
It's not, if you are planning on lying flat, anyways.
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hogujak wrote: Not sure if 3 seats of economy is more comfortable than 1 business seat.
One time I had a middle row of 4 seats to myself. I'm not that tall so I was able to lie flat with my feet against the armrest on one end. If we're talking crazy here then you would have to ask if Air Canada would allow that.

It may be more cost effective (but not time effective) to travel by cruise ship instead.
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Mulder and Scully wrote: One time I had a middle row of 4 seats to myself. I'm not that tall so I was able to lie flat with my feet against the armrest on one end. If we're talking crazy here then you would have to ask if Air Canada would allow that.

It may be more cost effective (but not time effective) to travel by cruise ship instead.
Haha can you imagine how many days it will take if you have to travel from south korea to canada by the ship. I dont even know they have such cruise ships lol.
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hogujak wrote: Haha can you imagine how many days it will take if you have to travel from south korea to canada by the ship. I dont even know they have such cruise ships lol.
For the cost of a cruise ship, you might as well pay for full fare J class.
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hogujak wrote: Haha can you imagine how many days it will take if you have to travel from south korea to canada by the ship. I dont even know they have such cruise ships lol.
Well, there's this one from Japan:
https://www.celebritycruises.com/itiner ... 2019-04-27

That's definitely "bucket list" material for me... Japan, and see where they film Deadliest Catch!
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superangrypenguin wrote: Don't do this OP. This is a typical thought that non FFers have which will inevitably get you burned. You don't buy a seat on a plane, read the conditions of carriage.
Its done all the time, especially for people travelling with a musical instrument. Or a prisoner escort for which security requirements require such. You just need to do it through the call center or a travel agent who can arrange for the proper notation to be put on the record.

How do you think it works when people have to travel with those musical instruments???? Of course the seat gets checked in and blocked from assignment.

Having said that, just checking AC's prices on a few overseas routes I use, Premium Economy is roughly 1.5-2X of deep-discount economy, and discount business is only about 3X as much as deep-discount economy. Roughly reflecting the ratios of space used. AC *finally* got a clue with their fare pricing, since the old practice of charging 6X for business was just stupid and left the cabin full of freebie upgraders.
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burnt69 wrote: Its done all the time, especially for people travelling with a musical instrument. Or a prisoner escort for which security requirements require such. You just need to do it through the call center or a travel agent who can arrange for the proper notation to be put on the record.

How do you think it works when people have to travel with those musical instruments???? Of course the seat gets checked in and blocked from assignment.

Having said that, just checking AC's prices on a few overseas routes I use, Premium Economy is roughly 1.5-2X of deep-discount economy, and discount business is only about 3X as much as deep-discount economy. Roughly reflecting the ratios of space used. AC *finally* got a clue with their fare pricing, since the old practice of charging 6X for business was just stupid and left the cabin full of freebie upgraders.
That's completely different than not having anything to check into a seat that you've paid for.

And do you really want to be onhold with AC for 6 hours?
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superangrypenguin wrote: That's completely different than not having anything to check into a seat that you've paid for.

And do you really want to be onhold with AC for 6 hours?
I couldnt get a hold of anybody from AC and just bought a business seat online. What a pain. And I had a promo code that I can only use for online booking.

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