Long Interspaced Nuclear Elements (LINE), Reverse Transcription of RNA to DNA and SARS-CoV-2

the2ndme wrote: ↑ If that's possible then mRNA stuff can ended up in the DNA as well. Which can cause inflammations and therefore diseases (antibodies attacking the mutated cells).

SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 2.422516v1

alpovs wrote: ↑ It has been know for over a decade that under certain conditions mRNA can integrate into a genome. The most common condition for this is a certain stage of HIV. The article you linked mentions it. Nothing new. And the article itself is not about what you wrote. Has nothing to do with mRNA. Many viruses have integrated with human genome. One theory is that formation of placenta was induced by a virus giving rise to mammals, i.e., you and me. Don't worry, you wouldn't have existed without this process.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ If that's possible then mRNA stuff can ended up in the DNA as well. Which can cause inflammations and therefore diseases (antibodies attacking the mutated cells).

SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 2.422516v1

82 wrote: ↑ This is probably related to this study. Nothing is certain at this moment but it is highly unlike and even if this is true, you still want to get the vaccine instead of the virus for the very same reason.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/21/e2105968118

I would take comments of Robert Malone as grain of salt. He is not credited as the inventor of mRNA vaccine. He did published an important paper about the concept 30 years ago but the road of mRNA had went thru a lot to become the stage we are seeing today, a result of years of hard works from a few groups of scientists and some of them will probably be future Nobel prize recipients.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ No vaccine for some people and inactivated vaccine for others are the best options.

You try to discredit Robert Malone the person yet failed/did not try to dispute what he said in the video.

coilz wrote: ↑ Don't see how the article with regards possible RNA reverse transcript to cause detection of "viral" particle via PCR test has to do with vaccine efficacy. They're just discussing a new discovery of a possible reason why people who recover from Covid19 still test positive. RNA is not mRNA....

the2ndme wrote: ↑ RNA is RNA regardless of what letter is in front of it.

It's the potential for creating mutated cells which can leads to inflammations and then possibly diseases ( cancer for example) is the concern.

mr_raider wrote: ↑ Hogwash.

You can count on your fingers the number of situations where humans can transcribe RNA back to DNA. They are used in some species to transpose segments of DNA from area to the next using an RNA intermediary.

Humans are not retroviruses. LINE-1 RTs are leftover evolutionary fragment which lie dormant under most circumstances. The only places I have read about human RTs being active are in tumor cells and leukemias.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ RNA is RNA regardless of what letter is in front of it.

It's the potential for creating mutated cells which can leads to inflammations and then possibly diseases ( cancer for example) is the concern.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ I posted a study and talks relevant to the virus and genetic vaccines. Where is your study that disputes them? "Hogwash" is the best you can do?

coilz wrote: ↑ I should've said RNA is not the SAME as mRNA. mRNA is a type of RNA. These videos are just people trying to make a name for themselves for " discovering" something "novel" that sounds like it could be relevant if you just read the title, but with closer inspections require alot of speculation and big IFs. .. basically grasping at straws....

I don't think you'll get much of sympathetic voice here with regards to this discussion since even though it is the "Health and wellness" section of the forum. The topic will require some understanding of secondary education level of biology and beyond. This is afterall a deals forum. To get more lively discussion you should seek out more of an academic forum. Should have people with more expertise in this subject.

But if the point is to scare people from covid vaccines, I think the majority of people on this forum is pro-vaccine for the right reasons.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ RNA is RNA regardless of what letter is in front of it.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ A healthy 20 year old taking an experimental genetic (or any) vaccine is stupid.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ I posted a study and talks relevant to the virus and genetic vaccines. Where is your study that disputes them? "Hogwash" is the best you can do?

alpovs wrote: ↑ It shows you have no clue what you are talking about.

alpovs wrote: ↑ LOL! Where did you grow up? Have a look at the Ontario immunization schedule. We get at least 5 doses of vaccines against polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus by the age 6. And others. You can credit this "stupid" "tradition" for not being disabled or dead now.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ RNA is RNA regardless of what letter is in front of it.

alpovs wrote: ↑ It shows you have no clue what you are talking about.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ Again, "Long Interspaced Nuclear Elements (LINE), Reverse Transcription of RNA to DNA and SARS-CoV-2".