Arc'teryx Radsten Parka - Men's 50% off $750 -> $375

It is MEC just like Costco. Buy first and think second.

CyprusTM wrote: ↑Looks like all their stuff is made in china now.

If that means lower price with the same quality then isn't it a good thing?

Many people may not want to admit it but made in North America really doesn't mean premium quality anymore for clothing at least.

According to one reviewer, -5c and you start feeling the chill. They mentioned you would need a mid layer at any colder.

HenryC422053 wrote: ↑How warm is it? Good for -10 weather?

Hashim85 wrote: ↑I assume this is not suitable for winters in southern Ontario?

jameslinux wrote: ↑ This doesn't come with powder skirt, good for walking around but not for skiing.

TIL powder skirt is a thing

I only see XXL left?

jameslinux wrote: ↑ This doesn't come with powder skirt, good for walking around but not for skiing.

Thank you! My wallet is safe today then

CyprusTM wrote: ↑ Looks like all their stuff is made in china now.

According to Arc themselves, the Chinese made stuff has better quality control than the stuff they make in Vancouver. It's good that more high quality stuff is made in China now.

Arcteryx got bought up by a Chinese company over year ago, maybe two years by now. Loved arcteryx and had my first piece over 10 years ago when they were solely based in BC. Honestly I’ve seen the quality drop from when they were a smaller company and a little more ‘boutique’/green. Haven’t bought one recently as I’ve seen the quality drop.

honggil wrote: ↑ Haven’t bought one recently as I’ve seen the quality drop.

If you haven't own any recently, then you can't quantifiably say the quality has dropped, just sayin'.

XXL only

isgaard wrote: ↑ According to Arc themselves, the Chinese made stuff has better quality control than the stuff they make in Vancouver. It's good that more high quality stuff is made in China now.

Would you really expect them to say that their products now are lower quality now that it's moved to China?

In for one before size M got sold out. In case anyone is interested this is an extremely detailed review . I plan to use it for both everyday and the very occasional skiing session (I find parkas more comfy cause I run hot and not willing to splurge on a ski jacket)

https://coatchecking.co/blog/arcteryx-r ... parka-2020

ktkn wrote: ↑ Would you really expect them to say that their products now are lower quality now that it's moved to China?

They could also not say anything at all. Only a handful of goretex stuff is made in China now, most of it is made in Bangladesh, Burma, and Indonesia. As long as Anta sports owns Arc, I personally don't care where it's made.

CyprusTM wrote: ↑ Looks like all their stuff is made in china now.

Yes and also water is wet.

siruiguo wrote: ↑ If that means lower price with the same quality then isn't it a good thing?

Many people may not want to admit it but made in North America really doesn't mean premium quality anymore for clothing at least.

This

These days, made in Vancouver generally means much higher costs for workers who have much higher salaries working fewer hours yet produce same or lower quality results and requiring a much longer time to do the same job.

I don't buy the "quality" argument anymore. However if you say you want to support local jobs and pay for your neighbors then that would be an argument that still holds weight.

OOS

Good find, OP

isgaard wrote: ↑ If you haven't own any recently, then you can't quantifiably say the quality has dropped, just sayin'.

Not gonna argue or go off trail from the topic, but just saying that if you don't own one there's other ways to know the quality has dropped. Maybe I'll drop a few ideas.. maybe If you have friends.. who bought one recently? Or gone to the store to check it out and tried it on..?

Not quite sure why you have to own one to 'quantifiably say the quality has dropped'.

Oos damn that was fast

I've lived in Quebec for over 50 yrs and have survived without a $750 (with tax $858.75) parka. I think I am still OK. :-)

honggil wrote: ↑ Not gonna argue or go off trail from the topic, but just saying that if you don't own one there's other ways to know the quality has dropped. Maybe I'll drop a few ideas.. maybe If you have friends.. who bought one recently? Or gone to the store to check it out and tried it on..?

Not quite sure why you have to own one to 'quantifiably say the quality has dropped'.

To discern quality you need to own a product for a brief amount of time before having a valid opinion on them. Goretex products today and their manufacturing methods are way better than they were years ago so quality did in fact get better.

Or you can spare everyone your mental gymnastic and just say you like stuff made in Canada so you can tell people it's made in Canada, and there's nothing wrong with that.