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Poll: Mid twenties a good age to get it done?

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huskylord wrote: Thank you.
Can I trouble you to let me know what NYGN stands for? (still going through the hundreds of pages here and google brings up Nigerian Young Generation in Nuclear :)
Sorry, was expecting everyone lives in GTA and knows North York General Hospital as NYGN.

Post is updating with my experience. Post-surgical recovery section will be updated

I have myopia around -5.5 to -6.0 for both eyes and 0.5 to 1 astigmatism with most recent prescription. Myopia has been stable for the past 10 years while astigmatism fluctuate between 0 to 1.75 due to bad habit of rubbing eyes. however it seems to be hovering around 0.5 to 1 for the past few years. Went consultation with LASIK MD twice in 2014 and 2016. I was quoted ~$3300-$3600 for custom wavefront LASIK. I wasn't ready at the time so I didn't go further after consultation.

Until early this year, I figured it would be a good time to get it done this year as I would take my parental leave this year. I started my research and found this thread. After much readings, like many RFDers here, I was very interested in TransPRK with SMARTSurface. Unfortunately NVision closed and only places offer SMARTSurface were in Montreal and Vancouver. I leaned toward Dr. David Lin from PLEC in BC. I contacted PLEC and quoted $4300. We arranged a in clinic consultation and surgery within 2 days in May since I've already scheduled time off from work. Due to COVID-19, the whole thing was ruined and I couldn't travel anywhere. I began my search in GTA and hope for a regular PRK locally in May. But all clinics were closed in May and not opening till July. At this point, PRK was completely off my list if I wanted it be done this year as I had no more vacation.

Then I looked for LASIK option locally and began with LASIKMD first. The website was completely down. All page I clicked directed me back to their Vaughan location closure page. I tried email and phoned them but I wasn't able to connect anyone. I called Herzig for a consultation and an in clinic appointment was scheduled in May and got pushed to June then eventually in July as business finally allowed to be opened. TLC also arranged me a consultation appointment in July. Bochner was fully booked till August for consultation.

In July I went to Herzig and TLC for their consultation. At Herzig, I was offered both LASIK and SMILE. Price was $4700 and $5200. I was a good candidate for SMILE and they highly recommended it. Pro of SMILE is faster recovery and less prone to dry eyes. CON is newer technology compared to LASIK. Since they had a surgery slot end of July, I took the spot until I make my decision after seeing TLC.

Then I had my TLC appointment a week after. I was quoted $4800 for LASIK. Consultant offered LASIK only. I asked other option such as PRK. I was told only 10% of their procedures were PRK due ineligibility to LASIK. She knew only limited customer insisted PRK. I also asked Dr. Jeff Machat to perform my surgery but unfortunately he is currently in US and not able to come back to perform any surgery. I could choose an early September appointment with other surgeons.

After more consideration and research, I finally chose to get SMILE from Herzig by Dr. Herzig himself at the end of July.

Thanks for this forum and many RFDers posts. I also got Omega-3 and Lutetin supplement for the procedure. I got Kirland's Alaskan Salmon fish oil as family has been taking this. Without much research, I got B+L Ocuvite regular which has Lutein, Zinc and Vitamin C. All hope for less issue with dry eyes. I started taking supplement daily one week before the procedure. Without knowing which lubricating drops and quantity I will get from Herzig, I got a pack of Bion Tears from Costco as many mentioned here that keeping eyes moist is key to recover and to combat dry eyes. I also stocked up a few bottles of Hylo which can be used after exhausting Bion Tears.

Surgery was on the Thursday afternoon before Civic Holiday. I took both Thursday and Friday off so I will have 4 days resting at home after the surgery.

Day 0 Surgery day
Got to the clinic 15 minutes prior the appointment time. Had temperature checked and COVID-19 related questions answered. They taped the upper side of my mask to my nose which preventing me taking my mask off inside the clinic (according to staff that many customer took their mask off in the clinic). Signed all wavier form and paid my balance at the front desk. Then I was taken to do one more measurement before the procedure. I was given a relaxant pill and sat outside the operating room for my turn. I was also given my post surgery kit which included a sunglass, antibiotic drops, steroid drops, and lubricating drops. 2 different type of lubricating drops were included. The Refresh Celluvisc vital (10 vitals) and Systane Complete. It included 2 tabs of Tylenol 3. There were 2 patients ahead of me. One had LASIK and the other person had PRK on one eye and SMILE on the other. I got to watch their procedures while waiting for my turn.

I met Dr. Herzig before my turn. He checked my eyes again to confirm my condition. Answered a few of my questions before stepping into the OR room. Then the staff led me into the OR room. I got placed onto the table and prep with more PPE over my head/ears and anesthetic drops to my eyes. Then I got swing under the laser head. Dr. Herzig mentioned each step to me while performing the procedure. I know what happen at each stage. First I was aligned to the laser and the suction cup descent to hold my eye at place. Then the actual procedure began and lasted 30 seconds for each eye. Tech counted the time on the side at each 5 seconds interval. I was asked to follow the green dot all time. 15 seconds into the procedure, my vision started blurry and losing sight of the green dot. It was the time lenticular tissue being detached from the cornea. At the end of the laser treatment, it was completely blurred. Dr. Herzig then switch the laser to a bright LED microscope for lenticular tissue removal. During this procedure, he insert the instruction into my eye and began scoping out the tissue. At this stage, all I felt was the movement and slight pressure from the tool. It took less than a minute for him to remove the tissue out of my eye. Then he puts a few drops to my eye. The whole procedure repeated for another eye. Overall, the whole procedure lasted than 10 minutes in and out in the OR. Dr. Herzig then took me back to the examine room to check for incision site. Then I was clear to go once he was ok with the incision.

It took just over an hour including all paper work and waiting time in the clinic. Initially we were told it would take at least one and half hour for the whole procedure. While I was out of clinic, my wife was still shopping on Bloor street. Unlucky me, I'd to go find her in one of the store near the clinic. With sunglass on. I don't have any light sensitiveness while walking on the street. But it was very hard to look at my phone screen to call my wife. My vision is about 70-80% close to preoperative. I waited half an hour for her to finish check out. While I was waiting, I was able to see most thing. Only thing I had difficulty was seeing darker colour items. I wasn't able to tell the colour of 2 darker clothing in the store. Then we walked another 10 minutes back to the park lot. I didn't feel any pain during the whole time. I felt tired and some pressure on my eyes only. On our way out of downtown. I could use the phone as GPS and navigated her out to Hwy 404. While she was driving, I had no problem seeing traffic. I felt like I could drove myself at such condition. Took us 1+ hour to get home due to traffic on highway. Most of the time I was able to keep my eyes open and able to see much. But eyes got tired quickly and needed to be closed for a coupe minutes in between.

I was told to start using drops when I get home. So in the first 2 hours after the surgery, I didn't put a single drop into my eyes. Once home, I started using the antibiotic every 4 hours, steroid every 2 hours and Refresh every 30 minutes till bed. For the 1st day. I didn't experience any pain or much discomfort. I just felt tired, slight pressure on the eyes and light tension headache. I kept wearing the sunglass the whole time including sleeping.

Day 1 After Surgery
Woke up in the morning with completely dried crust on the eyes and not able to open my eyes at all. Had to loose up with my drops and water to clean the eyelid. It was due to Fresh Celluvisc. Vision was a bit blurry but seems to be better after applying more drops (Celluvisc). But it got sticky very quickly due to gel base. Wife drove me back to downtown for 1 day follow up. I was able to see all signs and my phone screen for GPS. Optometrist at Herzig checked my eyes, left was 20/20 and right was 20/25. But combined reading was 20/20. I was cleared to drive but warned about night driving due to halo. I didn't like Fresh Celluvisc due to it was gel. I was told to skip it and move onto Systane Bion Tears. Instead of using it every 1/2 hour. it was as needed. But I kept using it every 30 minutes to keep my eyes moist. Took me 1+ hour on DVP/404 to get home from downtown due to traffic. During the time, vision was good for driving. It got a bit dry and sting when close to home and needed to apply drops right away after getting home. Vision stayed the same throughout the day. Eyes seem very easy to get strain. Over problem I experienced was seem like my eyes weren't producing any tears and needed to by moist all time by Bion Tear. Again I had kept sunglasses on while sleep.

Day 2
Eyes not sticky anymore in the morning after switched over to Bion Tear. Vision seems to be blurrier than previous day during the morning. It got better close to noon time and felt much more optimal in the afternoon and seem to get a bit blurry again at night. I was told it was normal as vision would fluctuate. I just kept using all the drops according to schedule. Eyes are still sensitive to light. Even lights at home. Had to wear sunglass most of the time even at home. Like previous day, didn't feel eyes were producing any tears and needed Bion Tear every 30 min to a hour. Again slept with sunglass.

Day 3
Very similar to day 2. Woke up with blurry vision but got much better within an hour of waking up. After applying my 2nd time of antibiotic of the day, my eyes suddenly felt very sting. Tears kept dropping. (first time feeling I can make tears after the surgery). I had to wiped out all drops in order to open my eyes. Called Herzig immediately to report the situation. I was told it was due to dry eye. I was asked to use Bion Tear every 20 minutes for the next couple days. Right away, I put more Bion Tear every 20 minutes for the day. Stinging feeling went away within the first hour after full moist. Went out to shopping center with family in the afternoon when I felt better. Stayed at inlaw's home for dinner. This day was first time to drive at night. It was bad. Halo from oncoming traffic glowed as big as the car. Had worsen glow with yellow yellowish headlight than bright white headlight. A lot of light noise on the road even without any oncoming traffic. Tried to wear sunglass and immediately it helped a lot to reduce light noise and able to see much better. Halo got more managable. Instead of sparking glow, it got more rounded glow.

Day 4
Woke up with tired eyes. Vision was blurry before applying any drops. With drops applied, vision got much more clear. However, throughout the day, vision was more blurry compared to previous days. At times, it seem to be worse than right after surgery. It only got better closing to end of day. But overall, vision was still blurrier than previous day. To prepare going back to work (8hr in front of a PC), I got myself a pair of anti-blue light glasses. Kept applying Bion Tear every 20-40 minutes.

Day 5
Same as previous day vision only got cleared after drops. First time starring at monitor after surgery. Light from screen was too harsh for the eyes. Then I put the anti-blue light glasses on and it helped by warmed colour from bluish to yellowish. Kept using Bion Tear religiously every 30 mins to an hour or whenever eyes felt strained. Toward end of the work day, eyes got very tired and had tension headache on one side. Otherwise vision was clear.

Day 6-7
Very similar to day 5. Eyes are adjusting to long hour to screen time. Took times off the screen after 15-20 minutes. Blink and rest for a minute or 2 before resuming work. Reducing Bion Tears frequency to every one to two hour. Not feeling any sting at all even when skipping some drops in between. However eyes seem still be easier tired out and strained.

Had one week follow up with Herzig on day 7. Mentioned about less depending on Bion Tears. I was told even I may not need the drops. I am still required to put them on as they will moist the surface of the cornea and help to improve vision. At day 7, I completed all antibiotic and steroid and use lucubrating drops exclusively.

Day 8+ till now at 2 weeks point
Vision is stable. I don't need drops in the morning to get away the blurriness. I reduced using Bion Tears to just 3-4 times a day. Halo was still a problem for night driving. But now it glowed as an outter ring of night source only.
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Inclemental wrote: Sorry, was expecting everyone lives in GTA and knows North York General Hospital as NYGN.

Post is updating with my experience.

I have myopia around -5.5 to -6.0 for both eyes and 0.5 to 1 astigmatism with most recent prescription. Myopia has been stable for the past 10 years while astigmatism fluctuate between 0 to 1.75 due to bad habit of rubbing eyes. however it seems to be hovering around 0.5 to 1 for the past few years. Went consultation with LASIK MD twice in 2014 and 2016. I was quoted ~$3300-$3600 for custom wavefront LASIK. I wasn't ready at the time so I didn't go further after consultation.

Until early this year, I figured it would be a good time to get it done this year as I would take my parental leave this year. I started my research and found this thread. After much readings, like many RFDers here, I was very interested in TransPRK with SMARTSurface. Unfortunately NVision closed and only places offer SMARTSurface were in Montreal and Vancouver. I leaned toward Dr. David Lin from PLEC in BC. I contacted PLEC and quoted $4300. We arranged a in clinic consultation and surgery within 2 days in May since I've already scheduled time off from work. Due to COVID-19, the whole thing was ruined and I couldn't travel anywhere. I began my search in GTA and hope for a regular PRK locally in May. But all clinics were closed in May and not opening till July. At this point, PRK was completely off my list if I wanted it be done this year as I had no more vacation.

Then I looked for LASIK option locally and began with LASIKMD first. The website was completely down. All page I clicked directed me back to their Vaughan location closure page. I tried email and phoned them but I wasn't able to connect anyone. I called Herzig for a consultation and an in clinic appointment was scheduled in May and got pushed to June then eventually in July as business finally allowed to be opened. TLC also arranged me a consultation appointment in July. Bochner was fully booked till August for consultation.

In July I went to Herzig and TLC for their consultation. At Herzig, I was offered both LASIK and SMILE. Price was $4700 and $5200. I was a good candidate for SMILE and they highly recommended it. Pro of SMILE is faster recovery and less prone to dry eyes. CON is newer technology compared to LASIK. Since they had a surgery slot end of July, I took the spot until I make my decision after seeing TLC.

Then I had my TLC appointment a week after. I was quoted $4800 for LASIK. Consultant offered LASIK only. I asked other option such as PRK. I was told only 10% of their procedures were PRK due ineligibility to LASIK. She knew only limited customer insisted PRK. I also asked Dr. Jeff Machat to perform my surgery but unfortunately he is currently in US and not able to come back to perform any surgery. I could choose an early September appointment with other surgeons.

After more consideration and research, I finally chose to get SMILE from Herzig by Dr. Herzig himself at the end of July.
Thank you for your info!

I just had a phone consult with Herzig and my cost were $2700/eye for LASIK or PRK and $2850/eye for SMILE. Prices have gone up!

I am booked for a consult with TLC Mississauga (and LASIKMD Oakville) in the next few weeks. I'm trying to decide between staying local for standard PRK or going to Montreal for SmartSurfACE at Laservue.

I understand the EX500 laser can also do topology-guided PRK as well, so maybe it's not necessary to go that far if TLC or LASIKMD can do that. Any idea when Dr. Machat is returning? I suppose not until the border is reopened.
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I'm sure you will get good results with SMILE or LASIK.

But the reason that Herzig is one of the few clinics that offers SMILE is that most ophthalmologists do not believe SMILE is better.

Here's a point-Counterpoint debate about SMILE vs LASIK.
https://www.reviewofophthalmology.com/a ... e-vs-lasik
Notably, the doctor arguing the Pro-SMILE position has research agreements with Zeiss (who developed SMILE). While the doctor arguing the Con position has no affiliations and is director of corneal research at highly respected Cleveland Clinic.

Bochner also has an article explaining why they never went with SMILE.
https://www.bochner.com/publications/ab ... les_26.pdf
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I had an appointment with an ophthalmologist at the Ivey Institute in London scheduled for last May for a cataract consulation, and of course that got canceled. The doctor called to talk to me and explain the procedure and said he'd put me on an "expedited" list once things opened back up - I'm still waiting and my cataracts are getting worse.

I believe TLC in London (which is the closest city to me) does cataract surgery - would the wait list be shorter there since you have to pay for it (I think). I was thinking of going that route if it would get me done sooner? I can't really wait until next year, and I can't lose my license (husband with a brain tumor, had his license returned but will lose it if the tumor starts coming back). This is so stressful - I can appreciate that everyone has their reasons for needing this done sooner rather than later, and this virus has sure made a mess of things!
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KevCnew wrote:
Thank you for your info!

I just had a phone consult with Herzig and my cost were $2700/eye for LASIK or PRK and $2850/eye for SMILE. Prices have gone up!

I am booked for a consult with TLC Mississauga (and LASIKMD Oakville) in the next few weeks. I'm trying to decide between staying local for standard PRK or going to Montreal for SmartSurfACE at Laservue.

I understand the EX500 laser can also do topology-guided PRK as well, so maybe it's not necessary to go that far if TLC or LASIKMD can do that. Any idea when Dr. Machat is returning? I suppose not until the border is reopened.
Your price was right. The price I listed were after discounts. TLC offered $600 summer discount ($2700/eye *2 -$600) while Herzig offered $500 referral discount ($2600/eye *2 -$500) for LASIK/PRK or $2850/eye *2 -$500 for SMILE. BTW, I need to buy all eye drops if go for TLC while Herzig provided 1st week's eye drops.

No timeline for Dr. Machat's return. Probably after boarder is opened.
multimut wrote:
I'm sure you will get good results with SMILE or LASIK.

But the reason that Herzig is one of the few clinics that offers SMILE is that most ophthalmologists do not believe SMILE is better.
Not getting into the technical PROs/CONs between LASIK vs SMILE. In business aspect, cost of a new machine is a major setback for many clinic to go for SMILE. It is a completely new machine which cost at least $500k to purchase + all other ongoing cost. If a clinic is doing well on LASIK and PRK which operate on the same machines. They don't benefit by investing a new machine and new tech. After all, our benefit is not their priority concern. Business is business.
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Inclemental wrote: Not getting into the technical PROs/CONs between LASIK vs SMILE. In business aspect, cost of a new machine is a major setback for many clinic to go for SMILE. It is a completely new machine which cost at least $500k to purchase + all other ongoing cost. If a clinic is doing well on LASIK and PRK which operate on the same machines. They don't benefit by investing a new machine and new tech. After all, our benefit is not their priority concern. Business is business.
True, but if SMILE was thought to be better, more would have adopted it by now. Plus, as per Bochner aritcile -- there is the example of Moorfields Eye Hospital in London(England) that did spend the money to buy SMILE equipment, tried it, saw some issues, and dropped it.
Addendum: Moorfields is the oldest and largest centre for ophthalmic treatment, teaching and research in Europe.
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tvwatcher wrote:
I believe TLC in London (which is the closest city to me) does cataract surgery - would the wait list be shorter there since you have to pay for it (I think). I was thinking of going that route if it would get me done sooner? I can't really wait until next year, and I can't lose my license (husband with a brain tumor, had his license returned but will lose it if the tumor starts coming back). This is so stressful - I can appreciate that everyone has their reasons for needing this done sooner rather than later, and this virus has sure made a mess of things!
As I mentioned in my earlier psot #3337, all cataract surgery is publicly funded in Ontario, whether you go to a hospital or a private clinic. The private clinics act as arms of the public system for cataract surgery, and are only truly private for laser vision correction. Whether you go to a hospital or private clinic, you will have the option of free cataract surgery, or you can opt to pay extra for premium lens, etc... But paying extra does not put you at the front of the line. They do prioritize patients, and if your cataracts are really bad, they will put you in category 1 priority. At private clinic, the wait times for laser vision correction and cataract surgery are different.
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multimut wrote: As I mentioned in my earlier psot #3337, all cataract surgery is publicly funded in Ontario, whether you go to a hospital or a private clinic. The private clinics act as arms of the public system for cataract surgery, and are only truly private for laser vision correction. Whether you go to a hospital or private clinic, you will have the option of free cataract surgery, or you can opt to pay extra for premium lens, etc... But paying extra does not put you at the front of the line. They do prioritize patients, and if your cataracts are really bad, they will put you in category 1 priority. At private clinic, the wait times for laser vision correction and cataract surgery are different.
thanks - I had found a post from a few years ago where someone said they opted for private cataract surgery because of the long hospital wait times - I guess they must have been in another province
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tvwatcher wrote: thanks - I had found a post from a few years ago where someone said they opted for private cataract surgery because of the long hospital wait times - I guess they must have been in another province
It is possible that a private clinic could have a shorter wait time than a hospital. Wait times for cataract surgery will vary by region and even by clinic within the region. You can try checking with some private clinics. Or since you are in London, Sarnia/Chatham area has the shortest wait times for cataract surgery and is not too far from you -- you could also check hospitals and private clinics in that area.
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multimut wrote: True, but if SMILE was thought to be better, more would have adopted it by now. Plus, as per Bochner aritcile -- there is the example of Moorfields Eye Hospital in London(England) that did spend the money to buy SMILE equipment, tried it, saw some issues, and dropped it.
Addendum: Moorfields is the oldest and largest centre for ophthalmic treatment, teaching and research in Europe.
Guess what laser system is used at London Vision Clinic -which is one of the most reputable laser centres in the world...you guessed it... SMILE

If you are in Asia or Europe (like above) and you are still doing LASIK they laugh at you... Bochner has their own agenda and so does everyone else..
The whole "SMILE" is new is outdated .. it's like telling people that Tesla is too 'new' and 'unproven'...

Do your research.

PS:.I've had 4 family members who have had SMILE all with great results.. this was after I had LASIK/PRK many years ago..
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huskylord wrote: Hi Everyone,

I"m doing research on behalf of my dad (he's 82) and just told me he was diagnosed with cataracts and his eye test for driving scheduled for Feb 2020. His doc told him he's 50/50 for passing, so he's now terrified at the thought of losing his license. The backlog for cataract surgery will likely not happen before Feb, so now I'm trying to research the private route. Lots to read through here which is great, but my dad's situation might be somewhat different than the younger profile for most people inquiring here. Obviously we need a professional consultation, but just trying to do some of the ground work ahead of time. If anyone has been in a similar situation for private cataract surgery, please share what you can. Much appreicated.
If you are in the GTA then Herzig and Bochner are world-renowned.
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So I had a consultation at King Lasik and basically my corneas are too thin to correct my prescription with laser surgery but they recommended ICL. With laser surgery I know the technology and procedure can change from clinic to clinic, but is the same true for ICL? As far as I know there's only like 1 branch of ICL lenses for astigmatism and the surgery should really be similar no matter where it happens? Or am I wrong? Thanks.
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Has anyone done SMILE at Herzig or Clearview?

Looking for some feedback from others that have gone through the procedure.
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I had my initial consult at Lasik in Hamilton, I'm a candidate for either Lasik or PRK for an astigmatism. No complications and good thick corneas apparently. They recommended the advanced wavefront to dial in my prescription.
They suggested Lasik but that I could certainly choose PRK (no change in cost).
  • Anyone have any experience with either at Hamilton?
  • From my reading here it seems that PRK is the better option (i.e., no flap) - when I asked about it there they said the main drawback was lengthier recovery (no problem for me), and possibly less predictable recovery.
Thank you all for sharing your experiences on here!
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Wanted to update this thread with my consult experiences at TLC Mississauga and Herzig.

TLC Mississauga,
Did a bunch of tests with a tech; she was very friendly. Spoke to an optometrist to review my results; she said all my concerns for LASIK has been thoroughly debunked (risk of flap dislodge, cornea structural integrity compromised, risk of ectasia, difficulty of retreatment, etc) and was very dismissive of my questions (when I asked about the type of laser, software the laser was running, it's capabilities of pulse frequency, treating pupil size, etc). She says they only provide PRK for patients that do not qualify for LASIK. Overall it felt a bit rushed, and very sales-y. The salesperson put a date down even though I didn't say I was going to move forward just yet, (assumptive close, good technique haha)

Herzig
Far more relaxed. Also did a bunch of tests with a tech; then spoke to an optometrist. Optometrist did a few more tests; and very patient with answering all my questions. She said I was a candidate for SMILE, LASIK, and PRK. I expressed my concerns about LASIK, and she said they were valid and was totally OK if I decided to go with PRK (given I understood the longer recovery time with PRK).

Herzig has a Zeiss Visumax laser for SMILE and a Johnson & Johnson VISX laser for LASIK/PRK. When asked about model/software, they weren't forthcoming with the information.

Here is the response I received from TLC:

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Had a consultation at TLC on Wednesday. I’ve got my surgery scheduled for October 16. Was hoping it would be sooner to give me less time to think about it lol
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I’m booked for ICL next month. After surgery, can I ride the subway home with my escort or are we better off taking an Uber? It’s honestly the same amount of time for me. Just wondering out loud and also being mindful of staying in more ventilated areas these days (car vs. subway).
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Posted 3 years ago but never had the chance to do it. With COVID and all, my two weeks off in December probably going to waste so might as well take this time to finally get to it. Last time I think PLEC was the most recommended. Is it still the same, or are there new guys on the block that have better procedures and/or service?
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You guys are still considering TLC, even with the impending bankruptcy and exodus of key staff? It's a repeat of the fiasco from last year's Crystal Clear Vision aka NVISION Canada's abrupt closure, with the same doctor founding both companies:

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https://eyewire.news/articles/nvision-e ... t-to-team/

https://fullerllp.com/active_engagement ... anada-inc/

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