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Mexican luchador wrestler Silver King dies in the ring

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Mexican luchador wrestler Silver King dies in the ring

Sheer negligence on part of all who failed to check on what was going on with him for all of that time. R.I.P. Silver King.


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brutal to watch - crazy how folks were still walking around the ring and not checking on the man who was down for so long....


At least the guy died doing something he loved (I hope!)

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ji2o0k wrote: At least the guy died doing something he loved (I hope!)
Luchadors live to wrestle and their masks are their honour. For them, no actual better way to go out.
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How could his opponent not know something was wrong? The dude was offering no resistance whatsoever, couldn't even roll him over - obviously something was wrong.
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He was clearly in distress already at 0:44, probably dead at 1:19. Took another 2 minutes before the ref thought get someone else to help. Surprised youtube is letting this stay up.
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WWE's Rey Mysterio Jr. killed a Mexican wrestler via whiplash during the setup for his finishing move 4 years ago and it is still up on youtube.
bdckr wrote: He was clearly in distress already at 0:44, probably dead at 1:19. Took another 2 minutes before the ref thought get someone else to help. Surprised youtube is letting this stay up.
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XFactor11 wrote: WWE's Rey Mysterio Jr. killed a Mexican wrestler via whiplash during the setup for his finishing move 4 years ago and it is still up on youtube.



Based on the description in your video, it looks like that was only the incident that led to his death later at the hospital.
In news reports, Silver King was pronounced dead at the scene. I suspect that the video in OP's post caught his moment of death.

That's a pretty big difference.
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The description in the youtube video is wrong.
The guy Rey Mysterio Jr. accidentally killed also died on impact from the dropkick into the ropes which is the setup for the 619.

Coroner's report:
The coroner stated that the fractures took place at two different moments of impact and that Aguayo died almost instantly.[59] Aguayo Jr. was not immediately attended to by a physician and was actually taken from the ring on a piece of plywood instead of a stretcher, which led to some criticism of the event organizers. However, the coroner stated that it made no difference. The Tijuana wrestling commission later explained that the doctor was backstage, attending to two other injuries that happened during the show. One of those injuries was a spinal injury and they did not want to remove that wrestler from the stretcher he was on, which was why they used the plywood to move Aguayo from the ring. The doctors worked on resuscitating Aguayo for over an hour before declaring him dead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perro_Aguayo_Jr.#Death


They thought he was just unconscious so they did not rush him out of the ring. He was dead after he hit the middle ropes.
bdckr wrote: Based on the description in your video, it looks like that was only the incident that led to his death later at the hospital.
In news reports, Silver King was pronounced dead at the scene. I suspect that the video in OP's post caught his moment of death.

That's a pretty big difference.
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bdckr wrote: He was clearly in distress already at 0:44, probably dead at 1:19. Took another 2 minutes before the ref thought get someone else to help.
The moron ref was just looking at him every now and then while he was not moving at all for a whole 2 minutes without doing a damn thing like check his breathing, pulse, call for emergency services, anything. WTF.
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Are wrestling refs real refs with an eye to spot these things? Seems like they’re better at acting than being a real ref.
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I didn't watch the video (don't need to see that) but from the description I wouldn't be too hard on the ref. Dollars to donuts he thought it was part of the routine and it never occurred to him that a wrestler was in real distress. Heart attacks in the ring are not exactly a frequent occurrence...
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56kbps wrote: I didn't watch the video (don't need to see that) but from the description I wouldn't be too hard on the ref. Dollars to donuts he thought it was part of the routine and it never occurred to him that a wrestler was in real distress. Heart attacks in the ring are not exactly a frequent occurrence...
That ref should have known something was wrong.

The last moment where the wrestler appeared conscious was 1:16, right before being kicked in the chest. He collapsed after that, landing on his face without using his arms to soften the fall. Both the other wrestler and the ref acted like they had no idea what the Silver King was doing -- they acted like they knew something was wrong, but had no idea what to do. The ref even started counting the wrestler out, but paused a long time after 2, looking off screen for some guidance, as if this wasn't part of the routine.
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The referees in Pro Wrestling throw up an X sign with their arms to signal that a wrestler needs immediate medical attention
and are generally there to communicate to the wrestlers.

Career ending injury to a wrestler returning from a neck and back injury.




bdckr wrote: That ref should have known something was wrong.

The last moment where the wrestler appeared conscious was 1:16, right before being kicked in the chest. He collapsed after that, landing on his face without using his arms to soften the fall. Both the other wrestler and the ref acted like they had no idea what the Silver King was doing -- they acted like they knew something was wrong, but had no idea what to do. The ref even started counting the wrestler out, but paused a long time after 2, looking off screen for some guidance, as if this wasn't part of the routine.
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XFactor11 wrote: The referees in Pro Wrestling throw up an X sign with their arms to signal that a wrestler needs immediate medical attention
and are generally there to communicate to the wrestlers.

Career ending injury to a wrestler returning from a neck and back injury.


Does that have something to do with the original video? Is that something else that the referee could have done (but didn't)?
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^ That is what the referees in the big organizations do to signal something is wrong or someone needs immediate medical attention.

The two wrestlers that died in the ring were working for small independent gigs with very low budgets.
bdckr wrote: Does that have something to do with the original video? Is that something else that the referee could have done (but didn't)?
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56kbps wrote: I didn't watch the video (don't need to see that) but from the description I wouldn't be too hard on the ref. Dollars to donuts he thought it was part of the routine and it never occurred to him that a wrestler was in real distress. Heart attacks in the ring are not exactly a frequent occurrence...
Refs and the wrestlers in the match communicate throughout the match to relay a set of moves on each opponent, when to finish the match, to check in on the wrestlers after something looks serious and may have gone wrong, completely unintended. You see that very closely when the wrestlers are locking up, in a headlock, down on the mat and the referee is right by them in their face checking with them. They are supposed to know if somebody hasn't responded after such a safe amount of time that something is definitely wrong. That's what differentiates a smart ref from someone like the guy in this unfortunate instance.
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XFactor11 wrote: ^ That is what the referees in the big organizations do to signal something is wrong or someone needs immediate medical attention.

The two wrestlers that died in the ring were working for small independent gigs with very low budgets.
This event didn't have any EMTs on site as being a smaller promotion, like you said. Though at least call for 911 from anyone among the many people around with cell phones. Help could have been minutes away for that.
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basically he pinned and the ref counted out a dead guy and the whole crowd..........cheered.

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