Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, Pilot Super Sport, etc

kev604 wrote: ↑ Are you staggered? If not than rotating tires regularly front to back will even your wear. Firestone Firehawk INDY 500 and Falken FK510 are both very good for the price from my personal experience I'd recommend the INDY 500. Your not going to notice a huge difference between INDY 500 and PS4S on the street for the price of 2 PS4S you might be able to replace with 4 INDY 500.

derass wrote: ↑Anything from this list would work with your front PSS since they're all in the same performance category. Looks like Continental and Pirelli are a bit cheaper than Michelin.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyre ... iameter=17

Viperoni wrote: ↑Continental ExtremeContact Sport is a great alternative to the pricier Michelins

kev604 wrote: ↑ Like I said for the price of a pair of PS4S you might be able to pick up a set if 4 INDY 500 or Falken FK510 your not going to notice much of a difference on the street but you'll notice a difference in your pocketbook. Extreme Contact and PZero are excellent tires too and I highly recommend them if you've got some money to burn but again probably more than what you need based on your application. INDY 500 have a aggressive looking tread pattern too looks good on any car.

https://m.tirerack.com/videos/amp/playe ... k+Indy+500

https://m.tirerack.com/videos/amp/playe ... Type=Short

tranquility922 wrote: ↑ Tx guys, I'll look into those. Unfortunately, the links aren't working.

I'm just concerned about mixing my front PSS w other brands for the rear, but there's no concern at all? I never mixed tires before so I dunno, have you guys done it and felt anything different?

tranquility922 wrote: ↑ Tx guys, I'll look into those. Unfortunately, the links aren't working.

kev604 wrote: ↑ You should never mix tires especially high performance tires handling won't be uniform making the car unpredictable. To a lesser extent same tires with different levels of treadwear can exhibit those issues too.

derass wrote: ↑ Anything from this list would work with your front PSS since they're all in the same performance category. Looks like Continental and Pirelli are a bit cheaper than Michelin.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyre ... iameter=17

derass wrote: ↑ I'm sure any car manufacturer or tire manufacture will tell you that the 4 tires MUST match. How much of a real-world effect that will have is a different story.

I don't know about making the car unpredictable. Changing it's handling characteristics slightly, sure. But from then on, it's going to be the same every time (predictable).

I'm sure there are people out there driving around on 4 mistmatched tires, probably with the cords showing on one, and a bubbled sidewall on the other, and their cars aren't exploding into flames as they drive to the liquor store.

derass wrote: ↑ All the time with my RWD track car. That's when you can tell the differences in handling.

You won't be able to tell putting around on the street. You're talking about the smallest of differences between two tires in the same performance category.

You might be able to tell a difference if it was something extreme. Like your PSS in the front, and some winter tires in the rear.

derass wrote: ↑ Go to Tirerack >Tires > Find > By Tire Category

Tirerack is always my first stop for tire research.

You will see that Michelin PSS/4S are "Max Performance Summer". Anything else in that category would be a comparable replacement. You will also see that Firehawk Indy 500 and FK510 are in the lower "Ultra High Performance Summer" category. You gain treadlife at the expense of grip.

MyGoToUserName wrote: ↑ PSS are the outgoing model compared to the 4S which outperforms it in all regards. I'd feel more confident sticking with the two if you were to mix again.

Indy 500s are a good budget tire, they have stiffer sidewalls than the Michelins. They have weaker wet performance which is where you end up saving $$.

The FK510s I'd probably stay away from as the sidewalls are soft and mixing the two tires would probably be bad for handling/feel with the front and the back behaving differently. A full set would be fine, all though again if you like crisp turn in feel these probably aren't for you.

I am about to mount a set of Yokohama advan V105s. They were comparable to the PSS as the released around the same time. No idea if yoko has updated them since 2013 behind the scenes. Sidewalls are reasonably stiff as well. They're listed at a 240 treadwear but those numbers can be misleading. My stock primacy HP tires on factory wheels are also 240 and are nowhere as grippy as the Indy 500s which are a 340TW.


The Conti extreme contact sports are 90% a PS4S for less $$. You can find the Falken rt615k for dirt cheap as they're the outgoing 200TW tire replaced by the RT660. Overkill for a street car but figured I'd throw it out there.