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[Mike's Computer Shop] Intel Core i7-8700K $449.99 i5-8600K $309.99 i5-8400 $219.99 i3-8350K $199.99 Free shipping

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[Mike's Computer Shop] Intel Core i7-8700K $449.99 i5-8600K $309.99 i5-8400 $219.99 i3-8350K $199.99 Free shipping

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The i7-8700K at $440 is quite tempting
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Will these have the meltdown issue and be slowed down with pathches?
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blazed16 wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 8:27 pm
Will these have the meltdown issue and be slowed down with pathches?
I believe it mainly affects VM's and have no impact for gamers
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blazed16 wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 8:27 pm
Will these have the meltdown issue and be slowed down with pathches?
According to Intel there's about a 6% slowdown on tasks involving a lot of context switching with their 8th-gen processors, such as when accessing SSD. if you can believe them. Earlier generations are worse.
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I still find the prices of computer stuff crazy inflated vs how it was a few years back.
I remember getting my I5-2500k for 199 brand new, but I guess the I3-8350 is basically an i5 now since it has 4 cores and no hyperthreading.
Probably the best buy at the same price.
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thatsnasty wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 8:31 pm
I still find the prices of computer stuff crazy inflated vs how it was a few years back.
I remember getting my I5-2500k for 199 brand new, but I guess the I3-8350 is basically an i5 now since it has 4 cores and no hyperthreading.
Probably the best buy at the same price.
i5-2500k is such a beast. I'm still rocking it at 4.5Ghz (air cooled). Best overclocker out there!
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thatsnasty wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 8:31 pm
I still find the prices of computer stuff crazy inflated vs how it was a few years back.
I remember getting my I5-2500k for 199 brand new, but I guess the I3-8350 is basically an i5 now since it has 4 cores and no hyperthreading.
Probably the best buy at the same price.
i7-2600K was $317 USD at release, 8700K released at $380 USD. Not that big of a jump 7 years later.

The Athlon 1400 released at $220 USD in 2000. The exchange rate is the main difference.
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demzie wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 10:31 pm
i5-2500k is such a beast. I'm still rocking it at 4.5Ghz (air cooled). Best overclocker out there!
It's my main rig too. 24/7 stable at around 4.4ghz. No bottleneck and a GPU / SSD upgrade still puts this computer better than most my friends who've upgraded sooner than the 5 years that this has lasted.
Sandy bridge were the first good overclockers, and everything after has been pretty good too.
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Jan 11th, 2018 10:42 pm
i7-2600K was $317 USD at release, 8700K released at $380 USD. Not that big of a jump 7 years later.

The Athlon 1400 released at $220 USD in 2000. The exchange rate is the main difference.
I will agree that x-rate is the main factor, but to say I5's from $200ish and i7's to $300ish going to 300/400ish isn't that big of a jump, I would disagree. You used to be able to find them at that price all the time.
33% increase, and RAM/GPU's are just as inflated. There's no reason to upgrade from old tech unless you really need it.

That being said, I still stand by my statement that the I3 is a good buy. It's basically like i5 last generation, but for $200, where the i5/i7 are now 6 core chips.
Not sure if that's going to be the de-facto standard now but I bet most people gaming wouldn't bottleneck with a nice overclock on any of them.
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Id rather buy a CPU that doesnt have any exploits. It will be some years until we see the changes in HW from this exploit unfortunately. So for now, we go with patches and microcode updates... Intel chose the speculative execution route to boost performance and are now paying the price for it, server markets are now looking to AMD 's EPYC options for security and performance reasons. AMD is a better option in the current market id say and with the freshly announced price drops, it makes them even more attractive.

They are only affected by one of the exploits found, because they chose not to use speculative execution as it was a potential security risk. I currently run an Intel CPU in all my machines, but not happy with them as a company over the past couple years...I will be going AMD for my next HEDT build along with my HTPC
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vivibaby wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 11:47 pm
Does ryzen have this flaw?
Re AMD: "The x86 challenger is, happily, immune to Meltdown. The company said that operating system patches alone will address the Spectre bounds check bypass bug. Fixing Spectre’s branch target injection flaw will require firmware fixes that AMD’s said will start to arrive for Ryzen and EPYC CPUs this week."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/12 ... _unstable/
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/11/1688 ... ryzen-epyc

"AMD’s initial response to the Meltdown and Spectre CPU flaws made it clear “there is a near zero risk to AMD processors.” That zero risk doesn’t mean zero impact, as we’re starting to discover today. “We have defined additional steps through a combination of processor microcode updates and OS patches that we will make available to AMD customers and partners to further mitigate the threat,” "


"AMD is making firmware updates available for Ryzen and EPYC owners this week, and the company is planning to update older processors “over the coming weeks.” "
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Even accounting for exchange rate differences, the cpu shouldn't be priced near $300 for the i5. Especially when intel supposedly already lowered the prices due to Ryzen competing.
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I want to build a gaming rig so bad but it's a horrible time to do that. Ram and GPU prices are insane

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