In stock form the EA888 found in the GTI doesn't put 250 hp to the wheels either...
I am pretty sure that all of GMs engines these days--even the LT1 and LT4--are SAE certified.
Dec 20th, 2015 10:32 pm
In stock form the EA888 found in the GTI doesn't put 250 hp to the wheels either...
I am pretty sure that all of GMs engines these days--even the LT1 and LT4--are SAE certified.
Dec 20th, 2015 10:38 pm
Boo you don't get it. GM advertised 250HP VW advertises 200HPunshavenyak wrote: ↑In stock form the EA888 found in the GTI doesn't put 250 hp to the wheels either...
I am pretty sure that all of GMs engines these days--even the LT1 and LT4--are SAE certified.
Dec 20th, 2015 10:45 pm
No, I do get it. Refer to page 1:
I really think we're in agreement here. One manufacturer decides to advertise their SAE net at the crank. The other is more obtuse and prefers not to state if it's crank or wheels. More often than not, it's the wheels, resulting in claims that the engines are underrated. At the end of the day, it's smoke and mirrors.unshavenyak wrote:Dynos are not really useful for measuring absolute output; rather, they are great tool for measuring change in output. Having said that, there is no doubt that the Golf GTI is underrated. There are numerous dynos showing the MkVII puts out anywhere between 238-260 horsepower at the crank. Moreover, performance metrics for the GTI have been inconsistent with their advertised horsepower since at least the MkV. Speculation abound as to why VW does it (insurance reasons, marketing reasons vis-à-vis Audi, etc.), but it is what it is.
Dec 20th, 2015 11:12 pm
Dec 21st, 2015 1:02 am
Gotta love your comparison. Used Aura Vs new GTI/R.KosMos wrote: ↑Yes, LY7 is "GMs older 3.6L V6. Used in late 2000s Cadillac/Saturn/Pontiacs"
Mine is Aura XR.
I'd really like to see owner of Golf R/GTI who actually know how to use that horsepower.
I'm so freaking tired to bypass those (or similar) (or "idle" behind them) on "quick" hwy ramps, on left lines of 40x HWY, or other local highways. So many people these days purchasing spec horsepower, but have absolutely no idea how to use those (nothing personal, of course)...
Dec 21st, 2015 7:32 am
heh.tebore wrote: ↑I'd like to see the LY7 deliver 250HP to the wheels.
The point here is the Germans are underrating their engines. Only time GM does that is with a Vette or something powered by an LSx or ZL.
Also you'd also have to drive a GM product
Looks like the Germans are good at underrating stuff. HP... Emissions etc.
Dec 21st, 2015 10:22 am
What a stupid post... Regular roads are not racetracks. Use your horsepower on the track not the roads. Why are you in such a hurry anyway? Insecurities written all over that post...KosMos wrote: ↑Yes, LY7 is "GMs older 3.6L V6. Used in late 2000s Cadillac/Saturn/Pontiacs"
Mine is Aura XR.
I'd really like to see owner of Golf R/GTI who actually know how to use that horsepower.
I'm so freaking tired to bypass those (or similar) (or "idle" behind them) on "quick" hwy ramps, on left lines of 40x HWY, or other local highways. So many people these days purchasing spec horsepower, but have absolutely no idea how to use those (nothing personal, of course)...
Dec 21st, 2015 3:02 pm
lol owned.Andro wrote: ↑Gotta love your comparison. Used Aura Vs new GTI/R.
To start off let's take a price of a brand new Aura xr(at the time) and compare that to a GTI. It is nowhere near 1/3 of GTI, or even R. We could also compare performance of both on the track/0-60/etc. Guess which one performs better? Your Aura is also not a hatch and does not have capacity to carry as much stuff. And finally the comment about purchasing hp but no idea how to use it, seriously? Tell that to anyone buying a performance car. Just because you see no point in it, I guess there is no need for anyone. What am I gonna do with my mk7 R now? I know, I will trade it for Aura xr, lol?
Seriously why troll this thread with a useless comparison? Or are you a part of Gilboman crew?
Dec 21st, 2015 3:25 pm