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Montessori included in $10 a day child care?

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Montessori included in $10 a day child care?

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From what I heard the school has to apply and be accepted in the program..
Most Montessori schools are "private" and usually don't apply to these programs.
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TLSRULZ wrote: From what I heard the school has to apply and be accepted in the program..
Most Montessori schools are "private" and usually don't apply to these programs.
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TLSRULZ wrote: From what I heard the school has to apply and be accepted in the program..
Most Montessori schools are "private" and usually don't apply to these programs.
This

Plus Montessori considers itself to be an Educational Institution … not a child minder.
Private Schools … no matter the age of the kid … are pricey vs what everyone else is doing.
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yea both my kids went and completed preschool to SK at Montessori (11K / yr).. My daughter was doing Gr2 math sheets !! when she graduated SK.
Even now she is in Gr4 and I have to give her Gr5/6 stuff.. to be interested. Looking for an IB school for Gr6 .. but I guess these are good problems to have :)
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Oct 7, 2017
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I can almost certain say, that yes montessori day cares will be included. First of all these facilities are also governed by the ministry of Early childhood education and that is why these facilities would be a part this program. Second my kids do attend a montessori day care and the provider has received a letter from the ministry advising that steps will follow on how to apply to be a part of that program.
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Oct 18, 2021
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We just received a letter from our Montessori school that they will NOT be participating in Canada-wide Early Learning and Child Care (CWELCC) program. They didn't really give a fully clear reason, other than that there has been insufficient information and guidance provided by the government for Montessori schools and educators, for the program to be applicable to them. They also stressed that they are not a traditional daycare.

What was the approach taken by your Montessori school? Wondering if this is consistent across the industry or if it's just our school. I am not sure what they have to lose in applying for it...
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NickyNate wrote: We just received a letter from our Montessori school that they will NOT be participating in Canada-wide Early Learning and Child Care (CWELCC) program. They didn't really give a fully clear reason, other than that there has been insufficient information and guidance provided by the government for Montessori schools and educators, for the program to be applicable to them. They also stressed that they are not a traditional daycare.

What was the approach taken by your Montessori school? Wondering if this is consistent across the industry or if it's just our school. I am not sure what they have to lose in applying for it...
My Montessori school said they are applying for it. I haven't heard back yet. I wonder if they will be letting all parents know of the results or I would magically start seeing rebates in the mail?
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Jan 10, 2022
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mikeygt wrote: My Montessori school said they are applying for it. I haven't heard back yet. I wonder if they will be letting all parents know of the results or I would magically start seeing rebates in the mail?
Ours mentioned that they (toddler program) too will be participating but has received no further updates. $1500/mo is big money and any help there is greatly appreciated.
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How much are you all paying for the school per month?
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Hey guys here is my update, my daycare lady started backing out saying that it is not clear if the government will be including the Montessori , she actually mentioned something along the lines that she is incline towards Montessori daycare are not going to be covered. Any news in your daycare?
NickyNate wrote: We just received a letter from our Montessori school that they will NOT be participating in Canada-wide Early Learning and Child Care (CWELCC) program. They didn't really give a fully clear reason, other than that there has been insufficient information and guidance provided by the government for Montessori schools and educators, for the program to be applicable to them. They also stressed that they are not a traditional daycare.

What was the approach taken by your Montessori school? Wondering if this is consistent across the industry or if it's just our school. I am not sure what they have to lose in applying for it...
mikeygt wrote: My Montessori school said they are applying for it. I haven't heard back yet. I wonder if they will be letting all parents know of the results or I would magically start seeing rebates in the mail?
activeExploit wrote: Ours mentioned that they (toddler program) too will be participating but has received no further updates. $1500/mo is big money and any help there is greatly appreciated.
devmaster8 wrote: How much are you all paying for the school per month?
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Pupsik27 wrote: Hey guys here is my update, my daycare lady started backing out saying that it is not clear if the government will be including the Montessori , she actually mentioned something along the lines that she is incline towards Montessori daycare are not going to be covered. Any news in your daycare?
Pretty much the same response that I got from our montessori principal, indicating that the government guidelines aren't clear that it covers montessori schools. As such, they've decided to not apply for it for this school year, but will look into future years.
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Pupsik27 wrote: Hey guys here is my update, my daycare lady started backing out saying that it is not clear if the government will be including the Montessori , she actually mentioned something along the lines that she is incline towards Montessori daycare are not going to be covered. Any news in your daycare?
I havent got an update yet. But if I don't get a subsidy I will move my child to a regular daycare. However, worried the waiting list in daycares would have become longer now.
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activeExploit wrote: I havent got an update yet. But if I don't get a subsidy I will move my child to a regular daycare. However, worried the waiting list in daycares would have become longer now.
With the subsidy, the cost for montessori schools and regular daycare is even wider now, at least for the infant / toddler ages. Not sure if the benefits significantly outweigh the higher cost. My youngest just started at a montessori toddler program after we looked around between daycare and montessori to see what's available to start right now. For regular daycare, the good ones have with high ratings have waitlists that are out to summer time or early September now. But there are some daycares that have space if you look around.

For kids that are in JK/SK but choose to go to Montessori, I can see the rationale why they are not subsidized, as these are sorta like private schools.
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NickyNate wrote: With the subsidy, the cost for montessori schools and regular daycare is even wider now, at least for the infant / toddler ages. Not sure if the benefits significantly outweigh the higher cost. My youngest just started at a montessori toddler program after we looked around between daycare and montessori to see what's available to start right now. For regular daycare, the good ones have with high ratings have waitlists that are out to summer time or early September now. But there are some daycares that have space if you look around.

For kids that are in JK/SK but choose to go to Montessori, I can see the rationale why they are not subsidized, as these are sorta like private schools.
Yep, unfortunately the rational is there...

Anyone knows how regular daycares are in terms of education? Is it all play learning? We have 2 kids one is 6yo and is finishing his last year in the Montessori SK and the other is turning 4yo, so going into JK. Wondering if it is worth keeping the youngest one in Montessori. Oldest already reads really well and does math, they learn French and Mandarin, lost of activities and experiments, they even hatched a dozen of chicken eggs in a classroom incubator. Also they have extra curriculum like coding and soccer. The facility is commercial space with proper ventilation, kids decor, nice playground. How do regular/non montessori daycares compare? Is my younger kids going to miss out on a lot?
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Pupsik27 wrote: Yep, unfortunately the rational is there...

Anyone knows how regular daycares are in terms of education? Is it all play learning? We have 2 kids one is 6yo and is finishing his last year in the Montessori SK and the other is turning 4yo, so going into JK. Wondering if it is worth keeping the youngest one in Montessori. Oldest already reads really well and does math, they learn French and Mandarin, lost of activities and experiments, they even hatched a dozen of chicken eggs in a classroom incubator. Also they have extra curriculum like coding and soccer. The facility is commercial space with proper ventilation, kids decor, nice playground. How do regular/non montessori daycares compare? Is my younger kids going to miss out on a lot?
I am pretty much in the same boat as you with 2 kids and the older one at 5 y/o and is in Montessori JK. We are probably in a similar geographical area, since I know other Montessori schools around us offer Mandarin as an alternative to French Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes. I feel my oldest is doing well and is happy with school. Academics aside, what I really wanted out of a montessori school education was to build their confidence, independence, discipline and a desire to learn/inquire. So far, so good on that front.

What I hear from friends and colleagues who have their kids in a public JK / SK is that there won't be as much focus on developing soft skills, such as discipline and independence. I hear them talk about school bullying already at that age, which surprised me. Not sure how much the kindergarten teachers can do other than let the parents in question know about it. Also, some of the kids going into public JK / SK could literally be coming off their grandparents couches and haven't been exposed much to a day care / social setting. I believe the public education system assumes that is the starting point for kids (i.e. no formal learning). If your kid has been going to Montessori since toddler (18 months), they would be more socialized and advanced academically.

Which leads me to wonder, if your kid goes to a montessori for JK / SK and are already more academically advanced than public school, do you plan to continue with private education? or to keep them in public and supplement with extra-curricular learning to keep them motivated / interested?
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NickyNate wrote: I am pretty much in the same boat as you with 2 kids and the older one at 5 y/o and is in Montessori JK. We are probably in a similar geographical area, since I know other Montessori schools around us offer Mandarin as an alternative to French Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes. I feel my oldest is doing well and is happy with school. Academics aside, what I really wanted out of a montessori school education was to build their confidence, independence, discipline and a desire to learn/inquire. So far, so good on that front.

What I hear from friends and colleagues who have their kids in a public JK / SK is that there won't be as much focus on developing soft skills, such as discipline and independence. I hear them talk about school bullying already at that age, which surprised me. Not sure how much the kindergarten teachers can do other than let the parents in question know about it. Also, some of the kids going into public JK / SK could literally be coming off their grandparents couches and haven't been exposed much to a day care / social setting. I believe the public education system assumes that is the starting point for kids (i.e. no formal learning). If your kid has been going to Montessori since toddler (18 months), they would be more socialized and advanced academically.

Which leads me to wonder, if your kid goes to a montessori for JK / SK and are already more academically advanced than public school, do you plan to continue with private education? or to keep them in public and supplement with extra-curricular learning to keep them motivated / interested?
Personally, I feel that private school education is way better... I have asked around and did some research on private vs public. 10 years back the kids there were already learning what coding and 3D printing is. Advanced science labs, higher academics, much better sport facilities and equipment, uniforms, code of conduct, not to mention values and networking.... Countless things that are designed better to make kids better and smarter with today's day and age in mind. My personal opinion is that public school system is generations old and needs to be reformed. I heard that many private schools operate like charities, where paying for tuition also gets parents a donation tax break...

But facing the reality, private schools cost between 22-35k tuition year + books, uniforms, lunches. If I had one kid, may be I could afford it... But I have 2 and another one coming, so i cant. For that reason we will be going a public school, looking at french immersion school with extra curricular on the side.
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Pupsik27 wrote: Personally, I feel that private school education is way better... I have asked around and did some research on private vs public. 10 years back the kids there were already learning what coding and 3D printing is. Advanced science labs, higher academics, much better sport facilities and equipment, uniforms, code of conduct, not to mention values and networking.... Countless things that are designed better to make kids better and smarter with today's day and age in mind. My personal opinion is that public school system is generations old and needs to be reformed. I heard that many private schools operate like charities, where paying for tuition also gets parents a donation tax break...

But facing the reality, private schools cost between 22-35k tuition year + books, uniforms, lunches. If I had one kid, may be I could afford it... But I have 2 and another one coming, so i cant. For that reason we will be going a public school, looking at french immersion school with extra curricular on the side.
Congrats on the 3rd kid! Raising 3 kids is expensive enough, let alone affording private education lol
Agree with your comments on the private school system. I have family members who have their kids going to RHMS and they seem to be excelling. Just very pricey. Not sure how the public school system is these days, but I came out of the public system fine (20+ years ago). I'll just have to make sure my kids learns math the old fashion way instead of "discovery math". The good thing is the demographics in our area place a high priority on education, so that helps on who the kids hang out with and where they get their influence outside of the house.
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It appears that one of the sticking points with Montessori programs is that their staff may not be eligible for a wage subsidy that's somehow part of the new CWELCC changes.
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Hi guys,

Any update from any of your kids in montesorri?

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