Motomaster eliminator 1400A booster pack

peterschiff wrote: ↑ Does anyone know if this is a good idea to use as a back up for jump starting car?

It’s on sale at Canadian tire for $160.
It has the integrated air pump as well.

I’m looking for something thst I can keep in my garage for emergencies and or maybe throw in the back of the car in the winter.

Are there cheaper /better products?

What about a $20 booster cable?
I am not sure how reliable those integrated air pumps are. I had many of the 12V air pump burnt out back in the days.
Now, I only use a +2 gallon air compressor for inflating tire.

Xtrema wrote: ↑ Booster cable requires another car. This is self sufficient. I would rather boost someone with this than with my cars.

The pump is basically the worst 12v pump you will ever see. You have take breaks for it to cool between tires. Basically better than nothing in a pinch.

There are pros and cons. You will need another vehicle using booster cables. With booster pack, just like you mentioned above, you will need to remind yourself to charge it once every few months.
I have boosted many vehicle using booster cables. You just have to know what to do. I always do the hook up myself. I don't trust the other driver.

peterschiff wrote: ↑ Does anyone know if this is a good idea to use as a back up for jump starting car?

It’s on sale at Canadian tire for $160.
It has the integrated air pump as well.

I’m looking for something thst I can keep in my garage for emergencies and or maybe throw in the back of the car in the winter.

Are there cheaper /better products?

Do you have car battery/drain issue? How cold is your winter? Engine (gas/diesel?) size?

A small lithium battery bank/jumper is generally better.

for example ( work w/ v6 if the booster is >75% charged )

~$60 shipped ( maybe cheaper w/ onsite coupons)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001006 ... %2522%257D

the2ndme wrote: ↑ Do you have car battery/drain issue? How cold is your winter? Engine (gas/diesel?) size?

A small lithium battery bank/jumper is generally better.

for example ( work w/ v6 if the booster is >75% charged )

~$60 shipped ( maybe cheaper w/ onsite coupons)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001006 ... %2522%257D

The only thing better about these is size and weight.
Boosting performance is poor. It also dies easily.
You also can’t leave it in your car. The huge fluctuations between hot & cold really degrades these types of batteries.

The old skool lead acid booster packs have best performance. But the con is that their big and heavy. But I rather have something that works flawless than pretty.

I used to have a lithium booster… a good quality anker one too. Died after a while. Was only good @ the beginning.
Now its a bulky cell phone backup charger…

UrbanPoet wrote: ↑ The only thing better about these is size and weight.
Boosting performance is poor. It also dies easily.
You also can’t leave it in your car. The huge fluctuations between hot & cold really degrades these types of batteries.

The old skool lead acid booster packs have best performance. But the con is that their big and heavy. But I rather have something that works flawless than pretty.

I used to have a lithium booster… a good quality anker one too. Died after a while. Was only good @ the beginning.
Now its a bulky cell phone backup charger…

On the 1st or 2nd try in freezing temperatures (frozen lithium). On the 3rd try, the lithium battery would have warmed up and good cranking boosts will be observed.

Lithium boosters have very high voltage. ~100% charged voltage at ~16v and >15v at ~80% charged.

Lithium batteries should be stored between 20%-80% charged state ( over the warmer months for example). I would only keep the booster at ~100% charged during the colder weeks/months ( <-20c ).

the2ndme wrote: ↑ On the 1st or 2nd try in freezing temperatures (frozen lithium). On the 3rd try, the lithium battery would have warmed up and good cranking boosts will be observed.

Lithium boosters have very high voltage. ~100% charged voltage at ~16v and >15v at ~80% charged.

Lithium batteries should be stored between 20%-80% charged state ( over the warmer months for example). I would only keep the booster at ~100% charged during the colder weeks/months ( <-20c ).

Yah there are optimal ways to make it work.
But it sucks having to baby a tool like that. Lead acid battery is chunky. But its nice to just leave it in the car in ice cold or burning hot. And get a good charge eveytime.

I did appreciate the portability of my old anker. It was nice.

I keep a lithium jumper, cables and a pump in my car(s) all year, takes up space but they've saved my a few times already and about a dozen other people.

I'm a big fan of the Motomaster booster packs. I keep one in the trunk at all times. Aside from the boosting feature (which I've only used maybe once or twice), I actually use the tire inflator regularly as I switch over my summer/winter tires and check my tire pressure throughout the year. The biggest downside of the booster pack is probably its size and weight. While it isn't overly large, it does take up a little bit of space in the trunk.

woofster wrote: ↑ I'm a big fan of the Motomaster booster packs. I keep one in the trunk at all times. Aside from the boosting feature (which I've only used maybe once or twice), I actually use the tire inflator regularly as I switch over my summer/winter tires and check my tire pressure throughout the year. The biggest downside of the booster pack is probably its size and weight. While it isn't overly large, it does take up a little bit of space in the trunk.

Don't you find it a bit slow?
I guess the inflator is good enough in a pinch.
I wonder how well those mini compressor looking ones work. Are they any better? Or perhaps its just a limitation of 12V

UrbanPoet wrote: ↑ Don't you find it a bit slow?
I guess the inflator is good enough in a pinch.
I wonder how well those mini compressor looking ones work. Are they any better? Or perhaps its just a limitation of 12V

It's funny you mention those 12V tire inflators because I have one of those too. Although I never timed them against each other, I feel they are both roughly equal in performance output. I actually don't use my dedicated tire inflator anymore since I find the fully portable booster pack to be more versatile/mobile, not having to plug it into a power source.

peterschiff wrote: ↑ Does anyone know if this is a good idea to use as a back up for jump starting car?

It’s on sale at Canadian tire for $160.

I have the older model, the batteries in these die very quickly so you better charge it monthly even if you don't use it. I replaced two batteries already and just sold it on kijiji, made my own booster pack from an 18v 4ah drill battery.

Xtrema wrote: ↑ That slightly better because of that tiny heat sink but it'll still overheat and slow. I had something like that ions ago. Burnt out after 3 years just doing top ups op seasonal tire swaps.

I also ditch all those 12v air pump...completely unreliable. I had too many failed on me.
I have been using compressor for the last +10 years.....same compressor, a lot more usage, quicker, etc...

Looked up the motomaster eliminator 1400a booster pack, old school technology i had similar ones for ages for emergencies. They are heavy, need recharging fairly regularly, but do do the job. I personally have moved on from these due to the items mentioned, just better ways to provide emergency boosting in todays market.

I would suggest researching some Noco GB70, lithium Ion and enough power to get the job done. It is a bit more money however do go on sale for around the $200 mark. It is super light, portable and can recharge fast from the cigarette lighter. It comes with a cigaret lighter adapter for using 12v devices, has USB out for charging cell phones, emergency light, safety reverse hookup circuitry and safety bypass for completely dead battery boosts. I would NOT recommend the Noco GB40 unit....while some have had success others have had letdowns. I know tow truck drivers that use the Noco GB70 so if it is good enough for them i am in pretty good shape.

https://www.amazon.ca/NOCO-GB70-UltraSa ... ive&sr=1-1

The Noco GB70 i keep in my trunk for the last few years never had an issue, i charge through my cigaret adapter every 6 - 8 months while i drive and even then it is 75% charged by the lights. IT can boost up to 40 vehicles, and they have video's on youtube where they test it out which is good reference material. Super light for portability, safety for your wife and kids and get you up and going when it is critical in super cold weather in the bush with no one around to help give you a boost.

My friend borrowed my unit yesterday to take to work and boost his work car that has been sitting there for close to a year and dead in its tracks.

I would suggest you read up on this Noco GB70 (they have new models now with some different names) i really can recommend this particular model. Again NOT the GB40 unit if it is mission critical the GB70 is the one to get the job done.

For 12v portable pumps i'm all in, for emergencies every car should have one in their trunk. Believe my newest one is the Viair 77P however they have lots of models. Even inexpensive models from Canadian tire are good for emergencies. they might be louder and if overheated stop for 1 minute till they cool down a bit....but in an emergency you'll appreciate having one.

Also stock a can of "tire in a can", or tire sealant. Usually come in a nozzel spray can that fills your tire with a foam sealant to vulcanize the rubber and stop the leak, with compressed air to fill the tire itself. They generally never have enough air to fully inflate so always get the larger can to do 18" tires, or if you need a top of of air use that 12v compressor to finish the job. The can will usually get you home and next day or two take it in to have the tire patched, but you or your family are usually good to get home safe and sound. I don't change tires on the highway must too dangerous, a can of tire sealant on the other hand gets me off the highway to safety.

Don't forget jumper cables, just because you have a booster pack of any sort i believe you should always have jumper cables as well. At least i do, 1 gauge 25 foot ones as my previous set was 4 gauge 16 foot ones....someone in there is sufficient for most needs, i tend to like the longer in case someone is parked in front wards and i have to boost from behind so the extra length is sometimes useful, but has to be larger diameter/gauge to compensate for resistance over the extra length cable.

UrbanPoet wrote: ↑ Don't you find it a bit slow?
I guess the inflator is good enough in a pinch.
I wonder how well those mini compressor looking ones work. Are they any better? Or perhaps its just a limitation of 12V

I've had one of these going on 20yrs+ and many vehicles. I use it a few times a year and it still chugging along though the gauge is unreadable/broken now. I used to use it many times a year when I had my Jeep though it was slow as heck to do anything...

Ballroomblitz1 wrote: ↑ For 12v portable pumps i'm all in, for emergencies every car should have one in their trunk. Believe my newest one is the Viair 77P however they have lots of models. Even inexpensive models from Canadian tire are good for emergencies. they might be louder and if overheated stop for 1 minute till they cool down a bit....but in an emergency you'll appreciate having one.

Also stock a can of "tire in a can", or tire sealant. Usually come in a nozzel spray can that fills your tire with a foam sealant to vulcanize the rubber and stop the leak, with compressed air to fill the tire itself. They generally never have enough air to fully inflate so always get the larger can to do 18" tires, or if you need a top of of air use that 12v compressor to finish the job. The can will usually get you home and next day or two take it in to have the tire patched, but you or your family are usually good to get home safe and sound. I don't change tires on the highway must too dangerous, a can of tire sealant on the other hand gets me off the highway to safety.

Don't forget jumper cables, just because you have a booster pack of any sort i believe you should always have jumper cables as well. At least i do, 1 gauge 25 foot ones as my previous set was 4 gauge 16 foot ones....someone in there is sufficient for most needs, i tend to like the longer in case someone is parked in front wards and i have to boost from behind so the extra length is sometimes useful, but has to be larger diameter/gauge to compensate for resistance over the extra length cable.

Those 12V air pump can't be relied on. Sometimes they don't work at all. After a while, I stop having it in the vehicle. Even if the 12V air pump works, it would take forever to pump up the tire....assuming the leak is very very slow. If the leak is fast, forget it. If I have a flat, I just change to my spare...no more than 10 mins job. Inspect my tire when I get home under a well lit garage and do repair.

As for the tire sealant, I have never used it. I heard it is a nightmare to clean the crap out of the inner tire. So a $20 repair at a garage will now turn into $40-50.

The jumper cable is 100% reliable. They have worked for me for so many years to boost my vehicles and others. In the city or rural, there are always other vehicles around that you can ask for assistance. Most people will help you if you are well mannered. I just don't like charging the booster pack once a month or 2 months. I will forget...especially when I have multiple vehicles to care for.

the2ndme wrote: ↑ Do you have car battery/drain issue? How cold is your winter? Engine (gas/diesel?) size?

A small lithium battery bank/jumper is generally better.

for example ( work w/ v6 if the booster is >75% charged )

~$60 shipped ( maybe cheaper w/ onsite coupons)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001006 ... %2522%257D

That's the YABER one that went on sale for 50 percent off for $43 all in before these lithium jump starter packs went MIA throughout Amazon a few months back. If it helps anyone, that YABER model only recorded 4310mAh through the USB port on a 1 amp discharge. Is physically smaller too, about a few inches same as a Pixel 3 width and height wise.