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MTO safety certificate valid for reselling?

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MTO safety certificate valid for reselling?

Hello,

I am planning to buy a used car with manual transmission just to practice and planning to sell it after a couple of weeks. Will the safety certificate from the previous owner still valid in this situation as long as it’s within 36 days?
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As per the website:

When you need a certificate
You need a safety standard inspection and certificate if you are:

1. registering a rebuilt vehicle
2. transferring a used vehicle to a new owner (unless the new owner is your spouse)
3. registering a vehicle in Ontario that was bought in or came from another province, territory or country
4. changing the status of a vehicle from unfit to fit

Unless you are transferring it to your husband or wife, you will need a new cert.
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pilmania wrote: Hello,

I am planning to buy a used car with manual transmission just to practice and planning to sell it after a couple of weeks. Will the safety certificate from the previous owner still valid in this situation as long as it’s within 36 days?
Nope, it won't. When you get a safety it copies with a white and yellow copies. White goes to the MTO and yellow you keep. You wouldn't be able to reuse a few weeks after registering as you wouldn't have the white copy any longer.

Best solution is to either go to a driving school (many offer this, even if you aren't just getting your license) and they can give you lessons to learn stardard. Or find a friend to teach you on their car for a few bucks. Hell I'd do it if you were local.
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pilmania wrote: Hello,

I am planning to buy a used car with manual transmission just to practice and planning to sell it after a couple of weeks. Will the safety certificate from the previous owner still valid in this situation as long as it’s within 36 days?
..lol

You are going to splurge some big money between the purchase of the vehicle, road fees/costs and the insurance to drive this only for two weeks? There are some rather good driving schools that specialize in manual transmission lessons and it will be a lot cheaper than the convoluted way of purchasing a test car. In addition you get a teacher who will hopefully give you an insight on the manual tranny. Much better deal.
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I wasnt looking for any “deal”. I was ready to spend some money. The reason why i mentioned a couple of weeks was because i currently own a car which is automatic and will be getting a new one soon. But this time i wanted to go for manual but i wasnt too sure if it will be a good idea as i dont even know i like driving a manual. If i just buy a manual car and find out i dont like it then i am screwed. So i decided to buy a cheap manual car to see if i like driving manual and if i like it, i will get rid of it and get something nicer. If i dont like it, my next car will be automatic. I did take a manual driving lesson too but paid $140 for 2 hours and i didnt even get to drive on the road. Just in a parking lot.
I ended up getting a 2002 jetta with 200k on it for $1250 safetied, around $250 to get it registered. Insurance will be $30 extra per month on top of what i am paying right now. And if sell it after a month for half of what i paid originally, total spent will be around $800 and that’s like 11 hours of driving lesson. What’s the better deal now that you were looking for? I didnt “splurge some big money” like you said. Unless <$1000 is considered big money for you.

eldiablo wrote: ..lol

You are going to splurge some big money between the purchase of the vehicle, road fees/costs and the insurance to drive this only for two weeks? There are some rather good driving schools that specialize in manual transmission lessons and it will be a lot cheaper than the convoluted way of purchasing a test car. In addition you get a teacher who will hopefully give you an insight on the manual tranny. Much better deal.
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fusion2k2k wrote: Nope, it won't. When you get a safety it copies with a white and yellow copies. White goes to the MTO and yellow you keep. You wouldn't be able to reuse a few weeks after registering as you wouldn't have the white copy any longer.

Best solution is to either go to a driving school (many offer this, even if you aren't just getting your license) and they can give you lessons to learn stardard. Or find a friend to teach you on their car for a few bucks. Hell I'd do it if you were local.
You are right. I thought they would just need to see it but they did take it from me. Thanks for your offer tho!
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pilmania wrote:
I ended up getting a 2002 jetta with 200k on it for $1250 safetied, around $250 to get it registered.
How much will you be selling it for?
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thewhopper wrote: How much will you be selling it for?
I will start at what i paid. $1250
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fusion2k2k wrote: Nope, it won't. When you get a safety it copies with a white and yellow copies. White goes to the MTO and yellow you keep. You wouldn't be able to reuse a few weeks after registering as you wouldn't have the white copy any longer.

Best solution is to either go to a driving school (many offer this, even if you aren't just getting your license) and they can give you lessons to learn stardard. Or find a friend to teach you on their car for a few bucks. Hell I'd do it if you were local.
If the website is correct then the safety would be valid for 36 days, no mention of selling it again in that period.... So I would check with the MTO. I don't see how having a certain color copy matters (the garage has one and so do you and the Ministry will have one) the certification forum number will be registered in the system if the first one was legal.

There might be a nominal paperwork fee and you might have to actually go into the office with the buyer. Also it could just depend on what mood the drone behind the desk is in... on any given day.
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pilmania wrote: You are right. I thought they would just need to see it but they did take it from me. Thanks for your offer tho!
Maybe they will accept your copy, since it's authentic, just a different colour. If you're selling, there's no point in you retaining a copy of the safety certificate.
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kenchau wrote: Maybe they will accept your copy, since it's authentic, just a different colour. If you're selling, there's no point in you retaining a copy of the safety certificate.
It’s all good now as the plan has changed and i will be keeping the car for a couple of months maybe longer.

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