[->MUST READ!!<-] HUGE UPDATE!! SCAMMER ALERT: NightStrlker & Heartless08 WITH PIC
HUGE UPDATE
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This all went down yesterday Nov 25 2009.
NightStrlker PM'd me about my laptop:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tosh ... en-794518/
He seemed interested but didn't have cash. He asked me if I was interested in any trades. I asked him what he has to trade and that I was in the market looking for a wii. He told me he had an ipod touch 8gb (scratched up and you can only hear from one ear), a violin and a modded psp.
We finally decided on his psp.
I'm located in Scarborough while he is "located in High Park".
I just got home from downtown and he asked me to come downtown. Since I was running on maybe 2hrs of sleep I denied and asked HIM to come to my place or forget it. I explained that I didn't want a PSP I'm really just looking for a wii. I then posted up an ad to see if anyone is willing to trade their wii for this psp.
8 minutes later I get a reply from a member named Heartless08:
So I thought "yay that was fast". And we sorted out a time and a meet up at Scarborough Town Center, since he "works at Old Navy".
On the side, I was asking NightStrlker to come to Scarborough. And he was urging me to come downtown.
Strange enough...Heartless08 also told me to go downtown and pick up the PSP since he's leaving for the states on Friday.
I just thought Hearless08 was just in a rush to get a PSP.
Since I was eventually going to get a wii, I decided to get my ass up and trek downtown (1.5 hours both ways + TTC fare).
On the bus I was checking my RFD PM's and I noticed something awfully peculiar from Heartless08's further PM:
I knew this was a scam. And I was already on the TTC. I'm not a wuss, and I don't like being taken for a fool. So, with the mentality that I am going to get scammed I met up with him at Ryerson.
He was acting too friendly and was inquiring about the wii almost every minute saying things like "wow you're gettin a deal" while in my mind, I was saying "wow you're gonna get pwned soon"
So we met up sat down. I showed him the laptop. He barely tried it out. Kept saying he was in a rush. I said well let me call the wii seller first.
I called the number Heartless08 gave me:
I read my PM's and there was another PM from Heartless08:
This is because I only want the psp in hopes to trade it for the wii...
He got out his phone and called his little brother and walked off and came back. I asked him what was that about. He said he had to call his brother to get his assignment for him.
Later, he had to go to the bathroom, he comes back and then right away I get a call from "Jake/Erik".
He said, "Hey, it's Jake". I acted dumb and asked "Yo Jake, I kept calling you man it wouldn't go through." He said he has a new number and he gave me NightStrlker's number out of nervousness/haste LOL.
I'm like dude why is this guy giving me your number. He was speechless, then he said he made his brother call so that I would let him go home.
I was thinking..."but how does he know the name Jake?"
He had to make another phone call. And this time "Jake/Erik" called back saying how he sold his SIM card and he has a new number. I stopped him. I asked him where he worked (in the PM's he said he worked at Old Navy). He said "why?". I said "I just want to know." he said "um...the movies?"
I said "okay" and hung up on him. At this time it was 8pm. (We've been there since 4:30pm).
I looked at NightStrlker and asked him, are you/your bro Heartless08. He said "NO WAY! I'M NOT HIM! WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT'S ME!"
I told him, "okay, then we shall wait."
Finally at around 9pm, he come's clean. He admitted that it was him/his bro and everything.
I was obviously furious since I wasted so much time. I wanted to be the bigger man. I told him "look, I won't do anything to you, you've p*ssed me off but just give me $5 to cover my TTC fare and I won't do/say anything"
He replied "I don't have $5".
I told him we can all (2 of my friends showed up since they were done class) go to an ATM. He said he doesn't have a debit card/bank account and his wallet is at home. I told him to get his bro. He said "I'm not giving him the combo to my room"
I said "We're not leaving till I get $5."
More time has passed. He didn't even apologize. Then I told him. That $5 boat has sailed you're wasting more time of mine. I upped the ante to the PSP + $100 for my laptop from '$5 and no laptop'.
He was scared, he was stuttering. More time has passed, he agreed to $70. I said "Wait...you said you don't even have $5, how can you have $70". He said he will get his brother to get the money for him. Errr....okay. He gets on the phone and he said "Yeah, take out all the money from my account". Account? I swear he said he didn't have an account. He said "I said, a closet, not account". To which I replied "You said to him, yo take all the money from my a closet? That sentence makes no sense." Once again he shutup.
Still no apology. Just lies after lies.
At the end, I got his psp + $70 (three twenties and a ten...never knew ATM's dispose $10...) for my laptop
I told him to learn from his lesson, and that I will have to warn my fellow RFD'ers. He said nothing.
I got home at 11:30pm.
I would love for them to get banned or suspended. Either way, I really think noone should deal with either of them (same person) ever.
Details:
NightStrlker AND Heartless08
email: [email protected]
number: 647-898-8085
Description: Asian, skinny, scruffy/dirty lookin, goes to George Brown
Here's a pic of him (cropped from his MSN window)
[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/24b52si.jpg[/IMG]
I have all the PM's stored if anyone wants them.
Thanks for reading.
djoutcry 1
Scammers 0
PWNED
Conclusion
Original Trade: Laptop for PSP Slim (in anticipation of trading it for a wii)
Final Trade: Laptop for PSP Slim + $70 (for wasting my time, bus fare, and trying to scam me)
NightStrlker = Heartless08 = BAN!!
Warning: He/They is/are on HoFo too
PS Does anyone want a Modded PSP Slim?
Read and enjoy the story below.
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This all went down yesterday Nov 25 2009.
NightStrlker PM'd me about my laptop:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/tosh ... en-794518/
He seemed interested but didn't have cash. He asked me if I was interested in any trades. I asked him what he has to trade and that I was in the market looking for a wii. He told me he had an ipod touch 8gb (scratched up and you can only hear from one ear), a violin and a modded psp.
We finally decided on his psp.
I'm located in Scarborough while he is "located in High Park".
I just got home from downtown and he asked me to come downtown. Since I was running on maybe 2hrs of sleep I denied and asked HIM to come to my place or forget it. I explained that I didn't want a PSP I'm really just looking for a wii. I then posted up an ad to see if anyone is willing to trade their wii for this psp.
8 minutes later I get a reply from a member named Heartless08:
Notice his name is "Erik".Originally Posted by Heartless08
I have a Wii if your interested. I just need to know is the psp modded with a current firmware? Also:
1) Come with memory?
2) How many cycles are left in the battery? Will you be including a brand new battery?
3) Warranty? (I dont mind this but if you do have , it'll help)
4) Its the slim one right?
5) Meetups?
My Wii comes with Wiisports and has 1 controller. Of course it has all the accessories and has been used lightly. If your interested PM and we can meet and consider trading out systems.
Erik.
So I thought "yay that was fast". And we sorted out a time and a meet up at Scarborough Town Center, since he "works at Old Navy".
On the side, I was asking NightStrlker to come to Scarborough. And he was urging me to come downtown.
Strange enough...Heartless08 also told me to go downtown and pick up the PSP since he's leaving for the states on Friday.
I just thought Hearless08 was just in a rush to get a PSP.
Since I was eventually going to get a wii, I decided to get my ass up and trek downtown (1.5 hours both ways + TTC fare).
On the bus I was checking my RFD PM's and I noticed something awfully peculiar from Heartless08's further PM:
Jake? I swear a few minutes ago his name was Erik...and...psp? wtf I thought I was getting a wii from Heartless08 LOLOriginally Posted by Heartless08
Yes. Names Jake. PHone number is 416-464-1164. I dont accept phone calls when I am working but Will leave it on somewhere around 8. I can deliver the psp to you at 10-11pm?
I knew this was a scam. And I was already on the TTC. I'm not a wuss, and I don't like being taken for a fool. So, with the mentality that I am going to get scammed I met up with him at Ryerson.
He was acting too friendly and was inquiring about the wii almost every minute saying things like "wow you're gettin a deal" while in my mind, I was saying "wow you're gonna get pwned soon"
So we met up sat down. I showed him the laptop. He barely tried it out. Kept saying he was in a rush. I said well let me call the wii seller first.
I called the number Heartless08 gave me:
Called it in front of NightStrlker and it didn't go through. I tried texting it it said "Sending Message Failed".Yes. Names Jake. PHone number is 416-464-1164..
I read my PM's and there was another PM from Heartless08:
It was still 4:30pm. I told him, "If you wanna go, you can go. If you want the laptop, let's wait for the wii seller to contact me."I'll call you around 7-9 for confirmation. Mkay?
This is because I only want the psp in hopes to trade it for the wii...
He got out his phone and called his little brother and walked off and came back. I asked him what was that about. He said he had to call his brother to get his assignment for him.
Later, he had to go to the bathroom, he comes back and then right away I get a call from "Jake/Erik".
He said, "Hey, it's Jake". I acted dumb and asked "Yo Jake, I kept calling you man it wouldn't go through." He said he has a new number and he gave me NightStrlker's number out of nervousness/haste LOL.
I'm like dude why is this guy giving me your number. He was speechless, then he said he made his brother call so that I would let him go home.
I was thinking..."but how does he know the name Jake?"
He had to make another phone call. And this time "Jake/Erik" called back saying how he sold his SIM card and he has a new number. I stopped him. I asked him where he worked (in the PM's he said he worked at Old Navy). He said "why?". I said "I just want to know." he said "um...the movies?"
I said "okay" and hung up on him. At this time it was 8pm. (We've been there since 4:30pm).
I looked at NightStrlker and asked him, are you/your bro Heartless08. He said "NO WAY! I'M NOT HIM! WHY WOULD YOU THINK THAT'S ME!"
I told him, "okay, then we shall wait."
Finally at around 9pm, he come's clean. He admitted that it was him/his bro and everything.
I was obviously furious since I wasted so much time. I wanted to be the bigger man. I told him "look, I won't do anything to you, you've p*ssed me off but just give me $5 to cover my TTC fare and I won't do/say anything"
He replied "I don't have $5".
I told him we can all (2 of my friends showed up since they were done class) go to an ATM. He said he doesn't have a debit card/bank account and his wallet is at home. I told him to get his bro. He said "I'm not giving him the combo to my room"
I said "We're not leaving till I get $5."
More time has passed. He didn't even apologize. Then I told him. That $5 boat has sailed you're wasting more time of mine. I upped the ante to the PSP + $100 for my laptop from '$5 and no laptop'.
He was scared, he was stuttering. More time has passed, he agreed to $70. I said "Wait...you said you don't even have $5, how can you have $70". He said he will get his brother to get the money for him. Errr....okay. He gets on the phone and he said "Yeah, take out all the money from my account". Account? I swear he said he didn't have an account. He said "I said, a closet, not account". To which I replied "You said to him, yo take all the money from my a closet? That sentence makes no sense." Once again he shutup.
Still no apology. Just lies after lies.
At the end, I got his psp + $70 (three twenties and a ten...never knew ATM's dispose $10...) for my laptop
I told him to learn from his lesson, and that I will have to warn my fellow RFD'ers. He said nothing.
I got home at 11:30pm.
I would love for them to get banned or suspended. Either way, I really think noone should deal with either of them (same person) ever.
Details:
NightStrlker AND Heartless08
email: [email protected]
number: 647-898-8085
Description: Asian, skinny, scruffy/dirty lookin, goes to George Brown
Here's a pic of him (cropped from his MSN window)
[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/24b52si.jpg[/IMG]
I have all the PM's stored if anyone wants them.
Thanks for reading.
djoutcry 1
Scammers 0
PWNED
Conclusion
Original Trade: Laptop for PSP Slim (in anticipation of trading it for a wii)
Final Trade: Laptop for PSP Slim + $70 (for wasting my time, bus fare, and trying to scam me)
NightStrlker = Heartless08 = BAN!!
Warning: He/They is/are on HoFo too
PS Does anyone want a Modded PSP Slim?
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And for the $5, it's for the bus fare. He wasted my bus fare and time. All I wanted was my bus fare and that's it. We both walk away. But he really wanted the laptop and HE came up with the $70 idea. Mutual agreement in the end.
