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Need advice on where to buy summer/performance tire

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Need advice on where to buy summer/performance tire

I already have a set of Firestone Winterforce2 225/60/R18. Looking for some all-season/summer/performance. Doesnt even have to be all-season. Stock vehicle tire size is 235/55/r18 so that's the size I'm looking for. I don't drive too hard and I only drive my car 2-3 days a week short distance but with the occasional road trips during the summer. I was looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport a/s 3+ but the total price at Costco was $1300 mounted after tax. A little too steep. If I could get something under $1100 mounted after tax that would be my preference.
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The Pilot Sport A/S 3+ is a High Performance All-Season tire. Not a summer tire.

That being said, two lower cost alternatives to the A/S 3+ in that size are:
-Firestone Firehawk AS
-Goodyear Eagle RS-A
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derass wrote: The Pilot Sport A/S 3+ is a High Performance All-Season tire. Not a summer tire.

That being said, two lower cost alternatives to the A/S 3+ in that size are:
-Firestone Firehawk AS
-Goodyear Eagle RS-A

Thanks found the firestone firehawk AS at Kal Tire for $198 a pop.

The Kal tire website wont let me buy any tire. Checkout button is greyed out.
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After researching stores and tires for nearly 3-4 hours 1010tires was the best place to buy tires in my opinion. Huge selections and its local to where I live so no shipping costs and I can pickup from store as well.

If anyone is wondering I went with the Yokohama Avid Ascend GT. Had some good reviews on multiple websites and offers best in class/price performance for dry/wet. It got low snow performance scores however. After taxes total was $948.
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if you have winter's already, and you dont drive much, best to go with summer tires (not high performance all season). Firestone Indy 500 is a good choice for good performance while not breaking the bank.
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macrossr wrote: if you have winter's already, and you dont drive much, best to go with summer tires (not high performance all season). Firestone Indy 500 is a good choice for good performance while not breaking the bank.
I gave the Indy 500s some consideration but in BC it sometimes snows in the mountain passes in the Spring and early Fall so I decided to go with an all-season tire for some extra peace of mind.
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macrossr wrote: if you have winter's already, and you dont drive much, best to go with summer tires (not high performance all season).
Why?
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derass wrote: Why?
Maximize the grip for the usage.
Winter for when it's cold and wintery outside
Summer for when it's hot and summery outside
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Viperoni wrote: Maximize the grip for the usage.
Winter for when it's cold and wintery outside
Summer for when it's hot and summery outside
I get that. But I question the advantage of summer tires over all-season tires in wet conditions, and at transition temperatures (~7°C), or a combination of both. I've yet to see a good test that compares the two on these issues.
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1010tires is quick. They phoned me saying they have the tires in already (I'm assuming they had them In stock unless they got them shipped in 24 hours). They booked me in for tomorrow morning. I could have even got an appointment for today but I was busy.

Kal Tire on their website didnt have appointments availible till mid/end of July.
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How accurate are 1010tires fitment guides? According to their website, they have a bunch of 18" winter rims that are supposed to fit my RS3 but I'm a little worried they might not clear the brakes.
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notenoughsleep wrote: How accurate are 1010tires fitment guides? According to their website, they have a bunch of 18" winter rims that are supposed to fit my RS3 but I'm a little worried they might not clear the brakes.
Probably not great. They're going off hard specs like diameter, width and offset. They haven't test fit their recommendations on an RS3. Or any recommendation/car combination for that matter. It would be impossible.

Brake clearance is usually dependant on spoke design. The RS3 has big brakes, so that's going to make fitment extra difficult.

Rather than buying something blindly, test fitting them, and hoping for the best, the better option is to find an RS3 forum, and see what other people are running.
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^ yup. even with the identical offset and width, the contour of the inner barrel can be an obstacle for the aftermarket wheel to clear the brake. For sure, you should never choose a wheel that has deep concavity unless it has been test fitted.
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derass wrote: I get that. But I question the advantage of summer tires over all-season tires in wet conditions, and at transition temperatures (~7°C), or a combination of both. I've yet to see a good test that compares the two on these issues.
Tires are always a compromise, just depends on your priorities and budget. I don't buy my summer tires based on weather conditions that may happen a couple times a year.. All seasons are a much bigger compromise because you're stuck driving every single day all summer long. I just swap to my winter tires a little early and back to my summers a little late and don't stress. Winters are much cheaper to replace so I don't mind the extra wear and slightly worse performance if you get an occasional hot day during the transition days.

OP's thought process made sense of wanting to be able to drive on snowy conditions in the middle of summer. That said if you want good performance in the snow all weather tires are much better than all seasons.
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derass wrote: Probably not great. They're going off hard specs like diameter, width and offset. They haven't test fit their recommendations on an RS3. Or any recommendation/car combination for that matter. It would be impossible.

Brake clearance is usually dependant on spoke design. The RS3 has big brakes, so that's going to make fitment extra difficult.

Rather than buying something blindly, test fitting them, and hoping for the best, the better option is to find an RS3 forum, and see what other people are running.
I did, but they are all running neuspeed and BBS rims...way more than I want to spend on winter tires :*(. I guess the other option is to find a pair of nice rims that fit my OEM tires, and use the OEM rims for winters.
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You can call a bunch of shops to see what rs3 customers have fitted in the past winters.
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notenoughsleep wrote: How accurate are 1010tires fitment guides? According to their website, they have a bunch of 18" winter rims that are supposed to fit my RS3 but I'm a little worried they might not clear the brakes.
Go to audizine.com and ask.
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derass wrote: I get that. But I question the advantage of summer tires over all-season tires in wet conditions, and at transition temperatures (~7°C), or a combination of both. I've yet to see a good test that compares the two on these issues.
Huh? Apart from the few tyres that are dry-conditions or designed for track/strip use, summer tyres are by and large better than most garbaby no-seasons could ever hope to be. There is no question here, there are tons of reviews and tests that show this with objective data. There are some no-seasons that excel in the wet but they're basically only getting into summer tyre territory, not doing any better than the best wet-conditions summer tyres. Also dunno what you're talking about with "transitition temperatures"--summer tyres are far better there too. If you've run with summer tyres it's very apparent. Even if you're not driving hard, just drive down a street that has some sand/gravel/debris on it with summer tyres compared to no-seasons, and to it at even 0C. The summer tyres will still pickup the dirt and sling it on your car/wheel wells/underbody (you will hear it). Never seen or heard a trashy no-season do that. Grip is grip even at freezing temps and no-seasons don't got it. Summer tyres don't necessarily lose grip compared to no-seasons at lower temperatures, they just suck in ice and snow in particular; and some are highly dangerous in such conditions.
notenoughsleep wrote: I did, but they are all running neuspeed and BBS rims...way more than I want to spend on winter tires :*(. I guess the other option is to find a pair of nice rims that fit my OEM tires, and use the OEM rims for winters.
Well that's what happens when you buy a car as pricey as an RS3, lol :P $3-4k on wheels and tyres becomes the "normal" range for owners. One alternative is to buy the pricey wheels for summer and use your OE wheels for winter--the OE ones will probably hold up better in winter TBH. Another thing to do is just buy the lower-cost flow-formed wheels from the likes of FAST and a few others. They're not dirt cheap or anything but they're reasonably priced and much cheaper than BBS, etc. "designer" wheels. Again if you drive an RS3 you don't exactly want to be driving around on steelies, do you? ;)
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ES_Revenge wrote: Huh? Apart from the few tyres that are dry-conditions or designed for track/strip use, summer tyres are by and large better than most garbaby no-seasons could ever hope to be. There is no question here, there are tons of reviews and tests that show this with objective data.
Can you share one of these tests? I've only ever found this one. It shows that in wet braking, summer tires are worse than all-seasons below 8°C. That's both the wet conditions and transition temperatures I was talking about.

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