Need help buying BBQ, new BBQ better than used Weber?

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Feb 9th, 2017 10:48 am

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 10:48 am

Need help buying BBQ, new BBQ better than used Weber?

I've been searching for the right BBQ, new home buy so I've never owned one.

My budget is the best value I can get - not wanting to spend big $$ on one, but want good value.

Canadian Tire his this special Coleman for sale - looks like a good price, but I know Canadian Tire BBQ's are not in the highest regard.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/colem ... p.html#srp

There is a Weber E310 used from 2014 on kijiji listed for $425.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-bbq-outdoor-cook ... nFlag=true

My question, if my max budget was around $400 (I can go higher if justified), what would be the best option? - is a used Weber better than a new average BBQ?
I also don't like paying retail prices for things for the most part, they need to be on sale! Can I expect big sales coming in Spring?

BTW - NG only BBQ's i've been looking for.

There is only two of us living in this house, although we will occasionally have guests, 90% of the time it will just be two of us, so we don't need massive grilling spaces.

Damage due to RFD Since April 2013: $7758.00

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Feb 9th, 2017 11:07 am

bubuski: Deal Addict; May 23, 2009; 2836 posts; 1309 upvotes; Mississauga

Feb 9th, 2017 11:07 am

Get the Weber but not that one. You can get a Genesis model line of similar vintage for $350-450 on kijiji if you keep looking. They sell fast so just be prepared to act fast.

The Spirit model line is made in China. I have a NG Spirit E-310 from 2013 and looks about thesame condition as the one in your ad. The burner tunes are stainless steel and still work like new. The flavoriser bars and grills are the only parts that are porcelain enamelled which will be due for replacement this summer or next. I'll be getting stainless steel weber new ones

Feb 9th, 2017 11:18 am

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 11:18 am

bubuski wrote: ↑ Get the Weber but not that one. You can get a Genesis model line of similar vintage for $350-450 on kijiji if you keep looking. They sell fast so just be prepared to act fast.

The Spirit model line is made in China. I have a NG Spirit E-310 from 2013 and looks about thesame condition as the one in your ad. The burner tunes are stainless steel and still work like new. The flavoriser bars and grills are the only parts that are porcelain enamelled which will be due for replacement this summer or next. I'll be getting stainless steel weber new ones

Which Genesis models were you thinking specifically, some of them on kijiji look in rough shape.
So the Spirit E310 is no good?

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Feb 9th, 2017 12:03 pm

bubuski: Deal Addict; May 23, 2009; 2836 posts; 1309 upvotes; Mississauga

Feb 9th, 2017 12:03 pm

blues45 wrote: ↑ Which Genesis models were you thinking specifically, some of them on kijiji look in rough shape.
So the Spirit E310 is no good?

The Genesis E310. They come on kijiji but sell fast. I'm been watching it for a while as I'm on the fence to upgrade my spirit but it's been hard to justify selling mine used and buying another used one.

The spirit line is good. The weak parts for the spirit e-310 are the flavorizer bar and gill which are porcelain enameled. Weber has stainless steel replacements that last a lifetime. The ad you posted already has the grill replaced as a bonus.

Feb 9th, 2017 12:56 pm

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 12:56 pm

bubuski wrote: ↑ The Genesis E310. They come on kijiji but sell fast. I'm been watching it for a while as I'm on the fence to upgrade my spirit but it's been hard to justify selling mine used and buying another used one.

The spirit line is good. The weak parts for the spirit e-310 are the flavorizer bar and gill which are porcelain enameled. Weber has stainless steel replacements that last a lifetime. The ad you posted already has the grill replaced as a bonus.

How much would you consider selling your spirit for?

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Feb 9th, 2017 1:23 pm

plymouthhater: Deal Fanatic; Mar 10, 2004; 6516 posts; 2993 upvotes

Feb 9th, 2017 1:23 pm

If you look long enough on Kijiji you should be able to find a Weber Genesis or even an older Weber Summit at a decent price. Be prepared to act quickly as the good BBQ's are snapped up quickly.
Keep in mind the BBQ for sale category on Kijiji is a bit sparse in Winter - as people start getting ready for the Spring BBQ season you should see more for sale postings.

Feb 9th, 2017 1:33 pm

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 1:33 pm

plymouthhater wrote: ↑ If you look long enough on Kijiji you should be able to find a Weber Genesis or even an older Weber Summit at a decent price. Be prepared to act quickly as the good BBQ's are snapped up quickly.
Keep in mind the BBQ for sale category on Kijiji is a bit sparse in Winter - as people start getting ready for the Spring BBQ season you should see more for sale postings.

I'll keep an eye out. So a used weber at $400 range is better than I new one in the same price category?

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Feb 9th, 2017 1:35 pm

bubuski: Deal Addict; May 23, 2009; 2836 posts; 1309 upvotes; Mississauga

Feb 9th, 2017 1:35 pm

blues45 wrote: ↑ How much would you consider selling your spirit for?

My guess is possibly $250-300 for mine. I bought it new for $460 tax-in on clearance.

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Feb 9th, 2017 1:41 pm

koffey: Deal Guru; Oct 6, 2010; 14771 posts; 9190 upvotes; Toronto

Feb 9th, 2017 1:41 pm

I've had a sub $300 broil-king for 7 years now and I use it at least 2-3 times a week during the winter and 3-5 times in the summer. I haven't replaced any parts in it. Granted my next bbq, I would like to have a Weber, but buying them used? I get cars, etc... but I just wouldn't have figured something 'personal' as a bbq. To me, that's like buying used underwear.

Is it really worth it? The guy doesn't say how long it's been in commission and only that he's expecting to get 1/2 of the price of a new one. How do you value a used bbq? Sounds like there's a large demand for it on the kijiji. This is interesting...

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Feb 9th, 2017 2:04 pm

plymouthhater: Deal Fanatic; Mar 10, 2004; 6516 posts; 2993 upvotes

Feb 9th, 2017 2:04 pm

blues45 wrote: ↑ I'll keep an eye out. So a used weber at $400 range is better than I new one in the same price category?

You won't get much for $400 new - Weber have moved much of their production to China (since Weber was purchased by an investment group - the Spirit line and the new Genesis II line are made in China. The quality of the 1st generation Genesis and Summit BBQ's is higher.
One other bit of advice - check out content sales (since you are in the GTA - start watching the following contents sale websites: thenextmove.ca, sellmystuffcanada, transitionsquad, thegreatestatesale, timothyloughmillerestatesales)

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Feb 9th, 2017 2:25 pm

steve-0101: Deal Fanatic; Sep 12, 2007; 6133 posts; 868 upvotes; Greely

Feb 9th, 2017 2:25 pm

I would highly recommend a Weber... Bought ours in 2001 (Genesis Silver B), use it A LOT, and just last year I replaced the flavorizer bars only. Burner and stainless steel grill are still going strong. Even the ignitor still works.

Feb 9th, 2017 2:27 pm

cliff: Deal Addict; Aug 5, 2003; 2410 posts; 366 upvotes; North York

Feb 9th, 2017 2:27 pm

blues45 wrote: ↑ Canadian Tire his this special Coleman for sale - looks like a good price, but I know Canadian Tire BBQ's are not in the highest regard.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/colem ... p.html#srp

I have the three burner version of this, and wouldn't buy it again.

It needs a cover, otherwise rain will fill up and overflow the drip tray even with the lid closed, which makes a big mess, and makes the lower section unsuitable for storage of anything. The covers never go on sale so budget an additional $70-90 on top of the purchase price.

In a light wind it won't keep temperature, the thermo isn't accurate and is very optimistic (reads 100-150'F high). In the late fall/winter it's basically unusable as it won't heat up enough to grill, unless it's a warm day. On the plus side, parts are easy enough to get through coleman support (replaced the ignition button, burner stand and tank scale, the burner stand and tank scale need to be replaced again).

Feb 9th, 2017 3:03 pm

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 3:03 pm

cliff wrote: ↑ I have the three burner version of this, and wouldn't buy it again.

It needs a cover, otherwise rain will fill up and overflow the drip tray even with the lid closed, which makes a big mess, and makes the lower section unsuitable for storage of anything. The covers never go on sale so budget an additional $70-90 on top of the purchase price.

In a light wind it won't keep temperature, the thermo isn't accurate and is very optimistic (reads 100-150'F high). In the late fall/winter it's basically unusable as it won't heat up enough to grill, unless it's a warm day. On the plus side, parts are easy enough to get through coleman support (replaced the ignition button, burner stand and tank scale, the burner stand and tank scale need to be replaced again).

there is someone with the exact same complaint about the drip tray filling up posted on the CT website, I wonder if thats you.
I noticed someone posted in the Hot Deals section that CT was clearing out the covers for the Colemans in-store for about $20.

but seems like a used Weber is better than anything new in this price range based on consensus so far...

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Feb 9th, 2017 3:52 pm

cliff: Deal Addict; Aug 5, 2003; 2410 posts; 366 upvotes; North York

Feb 9th, 2017 3:52 pm

nope, never posted on CT. I've posted once or twice on RFD about it, I'm surprised more people don't complain about it, it really is a defective design.

Feb 9th, 2017 8:22 pm

Hugh Jass: Deal Guru; Mar 8, 2002; 12434 posts; 3632 upvotes; GTA

Feb 9th, 2017 8:22 pm

Got a Broil King Signet 3 years ago and use it about 5 days a week. It still works like new.

Previously I'd gone through two Walmart garbage where certain parts of the grilling surface would be hotter than others and you'd have to cook accordingly.They rust fast too.

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Feb 10th, 2017 7:05 am

l69norm: Deal Expert; Jun 12, 2007; 16324 posts; 5076 upvotes; London

Feb 10th, 2017 7:05 am

Check hot deals.

There's a huge weber clearance underway of the existing Genesis BBQs because they are switching to a new model this spring.

The Genesis s330 regular price was $1200. The new Genesis 2 is going to be $1600+

Someone got a store display for $650, others are getting brand new units for less than $800.

Feb 10th, 2017 8:03 am

dj_rice: Deal Addict; Dec 27, 2007; 1788 posts; 962 upvotes; Edmonton

Feb 10th, 2017 8:03 am

A Broil King Signet 20 fits your budget and is a great choice for a BBQ. Weber or Broil King, cant go wrong

Feb 10th, 2017 9:26 am

bubuski: Deal Addict; May 23, 2009; 2836 posts; 1309 upvotes; Mississauga

Feb 10th, 2017 9:26 am

plymouthhater wrote: ↑ You won't get much for $400 new - Weber have moved much of their production to China (since Weber was purchased by an investment group - the Spirit line and the new Genesis II line are made in China. The quality of the 1st generation Genesis and Summit BBQ's is higher.
One other bit of advice - check out content sales (since you are in the GTA - start watching the following contents sale websites: thenextmove.ca, sellmystuffcanada, transitionsquad, thegreatestatesale, timothyloughmillerestatesales)

Bummer, that's news to me. It kills some for the urge to upgrade mine now.

Feb 10th, 2017 10:12 am

koffey: Deal Guru; Oct 6, 2010; 14771 posts; 9190 upvotes; Toronto

Feb 10th, 2017 10:12 am

So, if most of webers bbqs are china made, is it only the summit that is still USA? Is this confirmed?

Found this. I'd love to have w weber once I get my new deck completed this summer.

http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/garden.html
Weber Grills (Palatine, IL): all charcoal grills made in Huntley, IL, and Summit and Genesis gas grills are made in Palatine, IL with domestic and imported parts (other gas grills imported)

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Feb 10th, 2017 10:33 am

blues45 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 28, 2005; 2590 posts; 614 upvotes; GTA

Feb 10th, 2017 10:33 am

going to check my local hardware stores, hopefully I will have time this weekend, maybe I can convince them to sell me a floor model - would they deliver it? I doubt it will fit in my Camry...

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