Need help on a couple laptops

Don't buy HP consumer-market computers unless you have utterly no other choice. Look for a different brand.

The AMD ones are identical other than the drive size and missing USB hub on the more expensive one.
RAM is more important.

That said, there seems to be various issues with these, in the other thread you found.
Don't bother with Microsoft Surface either. They have a lot of hardware issues.
I don't have any 2-in-1 laptops that I can really recommend.
Maybe the HP Spectre line is better, but that's nearly double the price on Costco website.

middleofnowhere wrote: ↑ Don't buy HP consumer-market computers unless you have utterly no other choice. Look for a different brand.

Could you please explain bit more? Very curious. Thanks.

Is there a Brand or model in that rand you recommend? I need touch and the pen. Size of screen doesn’t matter if it’s smaller.

deep98 wrote: ↑ Is there a Brand or model in that rand you recommend? I need touch and the pen. Size of screen doesn’t matter if it’s smaller.

Bottom line, the HP consumer grade is not good. It may look good, with bells and whistles, but you have to replace it in few years. Dell, Lenovo are much better but they are more expensive. Another brand to avoid is Acer.

kobemtl wrote: ↑ Could you please explain bit more? Very curious. Thanks.

HP products tend to be poorly built, unreliable, and expensive or impossible to repair. They're prone to fail, or physically fall apart, long before their electronics get obsolete.

This is also true of HP's more business-oriented gear. I had a workstation-grade HP laptop start breaking down as soon as the warranty ended: battery dead after one year, then bits of the laptop started physically falling off after three years, then the power brick suddenly failed. This does not seem to be an uncommon occurrence. I have not had that experience with either Dell or Lenovo gear, which in my experience keeps working until it's either obsolete or breaks due to wear and tear.

Hi guys. Thanks for all your input. Can I ask a follow up?

What’s more important generally speaking..

Intel 11th Gen i7-1165g7 with 16gb ram or Ryzen 7 4700U with 8gb ram.

Without getting into the updating the fam modulate.. Ryzen from what I heard is better at multi core processing. It does Intel suck that bad at multi core processing? Wouldn’t the ram make it on par?

Sorry haven’t bought an and since the Athelon days.

What is multi core used for? Is it more if I’m compiling data or processing large files? I mean most day to day items use single core right? Surfing, writing, power point, etc etc?

Any insight would be super helpful.

I’m looking at ldeapads as well since you guys say surface pro really sucks. I’m just trying to keep cost down and looking at Costco because of their return policy and warranty.

Intel 11th Gen i7-1165g7 with 16gb ram, multi cores is important but not in your case. 16gm is better than 8gb.