Need to hide dumb ceiling angle in kitchen.

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Jun 30th, 2021 9:31 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jun 30th, 2021 9:31 pm

Need to hide dumb ceiling angle in kitchen.

Sorry I couldn’t figure how to get photos posted here as I don’t have them hosted online.

Here is a link to my dilemma:
https://www.house-improvements.com/foru ... b3ba4684cf

I’d rather wall it all off and lose the space than look at that everyday. Ideally I’d prefer a pantry and door. Any ideas welcome.

Oh and if linking to another site is against the rules please remove.

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Jun 30th, 2021 10:02 pm

tempperm: Sr. Member; Mar 10, 2004; 848 posts; 329 upvotes

Jun 30th, 2021 10:02 pm

I would do the same. But only if i found that i just couldn t live with it. Personally I think it looks fine as is.

Jun 30th, 2021 10:30 pm

engineered: Deal Expert; Feb 11, 2007; 20277 posts; 24025 upvotes; GTA

Jun 30th, 2021 10:30 pm

benjicash wrote: ↑ Sorry I couldn’t figure how to get photos posted here as I don’t have them hosted online.

Here is a link to my dilemma:
https://www.house-improvements.com/foru ... b3ba4684cf

I’d rather wall it all off and lose the space than look at that everyday. Ideally I’d prefer a pantry and door. Any ideas welcome.

Oh and if linking to another site is against the rules please remove.

I agree with the guy on the other forum.

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Jun 30th, 2021 11:18 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jun 30th, 2021 11:18 pm

engineered wrote: ↑ I agree with the guy on the other forum.

Thanks for getting the pics!

Jul 1st, 2021 2:21 pm

fergy: Deal Fanatic; Sep 27, 2006; 5338 posts; 2192 upvotes; Not so easy there Ma…

Jul 1st, 2021 2:21 pm

What I would consider trying first would be to paint the back wall and the part that juts out the same colour as the ceiling, white, so that it blends in better. Maybe you can render that?

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Jul 1st, 2021 3:06 pm

PointsHubby: Deal Expert; Feb 7, 2017; 24456 posts; 23693 upvotes; Eastern Ontario

Jul 1st, 2021 3:06 pm

engineered wrote: ↑ I agree with the guy on the other forum.

This …
Another vote for the guy Spruce in the other house-improvements forum

Closet set up, with bifold doors will give you the most access

This whole remodel means you’ll lose both counter top * & cupboards … but the pantry will more than make up for the latter

And YES … the BIG BONUS your kitchen will look oodles better … the way it is now is just weird

* Curious what the measurement is for the current counter run from the existing wall to past where the new wall & door will be closer to your sink … in line with the room wall. Also what is the depth from the new wall to back wall. Cuz if you are ripping out counter & cupboards on both sides … then ya it’s gonna be more room than closet … and looks to be a decent depth.

PS … I liked your rendering. But you truly need a proposed floor plan to see true dimensions for the BEFORE & AFTER

Jul 1st, 2021 5:37 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jul 1st, 2021 5:37 pm

PointsHubby wrote: ↑ This …
Another vote for the guy Spruce in the other house-improvements forum

Closet set up, with bifold doors will give you the most access

This whole remodel means you’ll lose both counter top * & cupboards … but the pantry will more than make up for the latter

And YES … the BIG BONUS your kitchen will look oodles better … the way it is now is just weird

* Curious what the measurement is for the current counter run from the existing wall to past where the new wall & door will be closer to your sink … in line with the room wall. Also what is the depth from the new wall to back wall. Cuz if you are ripping out counter & cupboards on both sides … then ya it’s gonna be more room than closet … and looks to be a decent depth.

PS … I liked your rendering. But you truly need a proposed floor plan to see true dimensions for the BEFORE & AFTER

Oh I’m only planning to wall off and pantry beyond where the fridge is now. So the counter space on the sink side will remain save for the 4 inches or so of wall thickness I’ll lose. The first staircase angle isn’t a bother really so I’ll keep that space open. It’s the second one beyond the fridge that I want to hide but have some function of the available space.

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:29 am

GoodFellaz: Deal Fanatic; Jun 24, 2015; 7847 posts; 2619 upvotes; 0 downvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:29 am

cant you tuck the fridge in there and make a bulk head on top so it looks like the fridge is counter depth, then put pantries and cabinets and stuff on the right of the fridge.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 10:20 am

dottawat: Sr. Member; Feb 26, 2019; 625 posts; 717 upvotes; Ottawa

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:20 am

I personally hate bifold doors and would never even put them in my bedroom closet let alone stuck in the middle of my kitchen. They always jam and stick out and are generally in the way.

I don’t think the kitchen (or that corner) are big enough to pull off a closed in closet. You will end up with a smaller feeing kitchen and a very difficult to use pantry. Your kitchen will end up less functional if you box in that corner.

I would build in thoughtful custom shelving and the fridge into that corner in some way. Embrace the weirdness and put in something clever and built in. But whatever you do, leave it open - you don’t have enough room there for a door and walk-in style pantry.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 5:55 pm

PointsHubby: Deal Expert; Feb 7, 2017; 24456 posts; 23693 upvotes; Eastern Ontario

Jul 2nd, 2021 5:55 pm

GoodFellaz wrote: ↑cant you tuck the fridge in there and make a bulk head on top so it looks like the fridge is counter depth, then put pantries and cabinets and stuff on the right of the fridge.

dottawat wrote: ↑ I personally hate bifold doors and would never even put them in my bedroom closet let alone stuck in the middle of my kitchen. They always jam and stick out and are generally in the way.

I don’t think the kitchen (or that corner) are big enough to pull off a closed in closet. You will end up with a smaller feeing kitchen and a very difficult to use pantry. Your kitchen will end up less functional if you box in that corner.

I would build in thoughtful custom shelving and the fridge into that corner in some way. Embrace the weirdness and put in something clever and built in. But whatever you do, leave it open - you don’t have enough room there for a door and walk-in style pantry.

Digging these 2 suggestions even more than the first pantry idea.

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:08 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:08 pm

Fridge will have a screen that tv casts to for the breakie bar so having it in the far end doesn’t work. Also I think the angle comes down too far to be able to center it.
Not keen on bifold doors either. Maybe a pocket door that slides left into the wall that I have built?

Losing 4-5 inches of depth for a wall with a door framed in isn’t a concern. Remember we’re only talking about the area beyond where the fridge is now. I haven’t lived there yet so losing that space won’t be noticeable.

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:16 pm

hoob: Deal Fanatic; Jan 6, 2002; 6566 posts; 7183 upvotes; Toronto

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:16 pm

* Take out the corner unit (counter, cupboards) preserving them
* reposition the fridge there flush with the angled front as far left as possible
* Build custom open shelving to the left of the fridge (or something like over/under pull out recycling, small broom/cleaning closet, etc)
* Do same thing on right of fridge but maybe something fancier (wine racks, pot hangers, etc)
* X-style Wine rack upper/right of fridge... already have that 45deg angle, might as well use it !

Figure something out for where the fridge was, like... a 14" deep "counter" where you have toaster and other small appliances, for example, with open spice rack shelving above maybe.

Coordinate with a countertop change after you've figured out the layout you like enough to make it permanent.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 7:31 pm

Alpine84: Deal Addict; Dec 5, 2009; 2218 posts; 2599 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:31 pm

Build custom millwork into the wall. You can put a rectangular panel on the front of your millwork to hide the odd shape. You will only see the odd shape when you open the cabinet. Make sure you have enough clearance from the fridge so you can open the door properly though (which may require you to move the fridge closer to the stove). Nothing is worse than a fridge against a wall.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 7:44 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 7:44 pm

Alpine84 wrote: ↑ Build custom millwork into the wall. You can put a rectangular panel on the front of your millwork to hide the odd shape. You will only see the odd shape when you open the cabinet. Make sure you have enough clearance from the fridge so you can open the door properly though (which may require you to move the fridge closer to the stove). Nothing is worse than a fridge against a wall.

Yep. That’s why the fridge is going to the opposite end.

Anyone know how far you can move a stove without needing a new plug installed? I think I’ll need to move it 2-3 feet.

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:48 pm

raptormaniac: Member; Mar 24, 2009; 221 posts; 180 upvotes; KW

Jul 2nd, 2021 8:48 pm

benjicash wrote: ↑ Yep. That’s why the fridge is going to the opposite end.

Anyone know how far you can move a stove without needing a new plug installed? I think I’ll need to move it 2-3 feet.

Are you redesigning the kitchen or are you asking to make it less of an eye sore?

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:18 pm

Alpine84: Deal Addict; Dec 5, 2009; 2218 posts; 2599 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 9:18 pm

raptormaniac wrote: ↑ Are you redesigning the kitchen or are you asking to make it less of an eye sore?

It’s getting closer and closer to a full redesign

just give it a little bit more time haha.

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Jul 2nd, 2021 10:01 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:01 pm

Alpine84 wrote: ↑ It’s getting closer and closer to a full redesign just give it a little bit more time haha.

Well I think if you look at the pics I can’t have the fridge on the end and keep the stove where it is.

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:10 pm

slowtyper: Deal Guru; Sep 2, 2008; 12451 posts; 2206 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:10 pm

benjicash wrote: ↑ Well I think if you look at the pics I can’t have the fridge on the end and keep the stove where it is.

Why not? Personal I like that idea best. I'm also really against screens on a fridge though.

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:49 pm

benjicash [OP]: Deal Addict; Apr 24, 2017; 2312 posts; 851 upvotes

Jul 2nd, 2021 10:49 pm

slowtyper wrote: ↑ Why not? Personal I like that idea best. I'm also really against screens on a fridge though.

Cause I don’t want the fridge in the hallway! So I’d have to move the stove down a bit to keep the counter space between the fridge and stove.

Jul 3rd, 2021 3:07 am

Alpine84: Deal Addict; Dec 5, 2009; 2218 posts; 2599 upvotes

Jul 3rd, 2021 3:07 am

benjicash wrote: ↑ Well I think if you look at the pics I can’t have the fridge on the end and keep the stove where it is.

I agree. the fridge won't fit, or if it does, it won't be centered. I'm just poking fun at the fact that what started as something simple (ie. filling the space) is slowly turning into a full kitchen reno

. It's how these things go... I should know lol.

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