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New Hydro Connection on New Build

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New Hydro Connection on New Build

Hoping someone has some experience with this.

So, we had Toronto Hydro install a new 200A underground service connection for our house. Paid $2300+ for this service.

However, now my builder is saying that when Toronto Hydro installed it they only do it up to the property line (i guess from outside up to the edge of the property line) and I am responsible for the connection run from the property line up to the meter into the house.

My builder is telling me Toronto Hydro normally does it up to the meter but in our case they didn't and they are unsure why. Hydro is saying thats not included in their service. I was given a quote for $5500 extra to finish the install by my builder. So, just to add a new hydro connection costs $7700+ ??? So, needless, this is an unexpected shock.

Anyone have experience with this? Is someone double dipping on costs here or this is normal? Please advise.
Last edited by Dan325ci on May 6th, 2021 5:07 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Jan 21, 2011
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Where would they be terminating at the property line and or how?
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No clue about any of this. I just know i called Toronto Hydro to install a new 200A connection and my builder is saying they put a new one there but the underground service channel running from the property line to the meter is not completed. Toronto Hydro says that is not included in their service....Builder is saying it usually is also done at the same time a new connection service is installed, but it wasn't. so thats where I am now.
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usually is means its done sometimes but not required to do, hence this time they wont do it unless you pony up. you can also pay an electrician to run the hydro to your meter, you dont have to hire hydro to install it all the way to the hydro meter. call an electrician and ask how much i bet they charge less
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[OP]
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GoodFellaz wrote: usually is means its done sometimes but not required to do, hence this time they wont do it unless you pony up. you can also pay an electrician to run the hydro to your meter, you dont have to hire hydro to install it all the way to the hydro meter. call an electrician and ask how much i bet they charge less
That was a quote from a third party. Because it is underground they have to do some excavating and back fill for the channel and include gravell bedding with a concrete encasement....according to Toronto Hydro’s Requirement. I just thought that was included in the original price I paid to Toronto Hydro.
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Wow, never heard of this on a new build. I thought they included this in the connection fee the builder charges. Did they already back filled?

I think you are stuck either way, but does seem like a bit of a cash grab.
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The $2300 is only the utility connection. A 200 amp should be around $9k everything in so that price seems not far off (including excavation, meter, main panel).

We had a utility pole beside our property and the electrician ran enough wire to scale the pole and Veridian/Elexicon in Durham just did the connection. We did a 400amp connection and it was $24k (including 200 amp main panel, 2 x 100 amp panels).

If you think that's expensive, connecting to the sewer in Durham was $13k. Again, you are responsible for everything going up to it from your newly built house.
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lamin wrote: Wow, never heard of this on a new build. I thought they included this in the connection fee the builder charges. Did they already back filled?

I think you are stuck either way, but does seem like a bit of a cash grab.
By new build, I think he means a custom home (teardown and rebuild) in which case it's not included in the home price unless included at the time contracts are drawn up.
In a new build subdivision home, then it's included in the house price
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Yeah, it is a custom home.

Ok, from what I've read I agree the total cost of this is reasonable. Now it comes down to who pays for this. Our fixed price contract says we are responsible for all the city fees (which in this case was paid directly to Toronto Hydro for the new connection). Builder is responsible for the private property related work. This would constitute as such.

I think they already backfilled and thats probably where alot of the charges are coming from for digging this up again. They had many opportunities before to run this line. (such as when they were doing the water sewage lines)
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Dan325ci wrote: Yeah, it is a custom home.

Ok, from what I've read I agree the total cost of this is reasonable. Now it comes down to who pays for this. Our fixed price contract says we are responsible for all the city fees (which in this case was paid directly to Toronto Hydro for the new connection). Builder is responsible for the private property related work. This would constitute as such.

I think they already backfilled and thats probably where alot of the charges are coming from for digging this up again. They had many opportunities before to run this line. (such as when they were doing the water sewage lines)
Buried hydro will always be done using a dedicated trench, so excavation costs would not have been saved. Hydro never pays for anything beyond the property line or pole being fed from.

You just have to find out who messed up, and make sure it is not already in your contract.
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when you have a custom build, if u want to save money, you can co-ordinate so other utilities like rogers cable, bell fiber or what ever can use the same trench, they have to be burried anyways in a conduit so u can kill 3 birds with one stone if u know how to plan for this stuff.
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