New router what to buy?

marc_t wrote: ↑ wow that dream machine is expensive 400$.

Still staying in the Ubiquity company, you can buy:
- EdgeRouter X (this is a router only, it gives no wifi)
- Unifi UAP-AC-LITE (this will give you wifi)

should be 200$ all in for a very powerful setup.

Mattones wrote: ↑ Hey everyone we are in need of a new router to keep up with our house devices. Currently one is 6 years old and always crashing.

What would you recommend for the average family basics:

High speed Internet
Streaming
Countless devices- phones/tablets/cameras

I know nothing about this type of stuff.

I don’t mind dishing out more for something more powerful.

Thanks!

lead wrote: ↑ what is your current router?

von Monster wrote: ↑ You're still missing a switch and something to run the controller. The equivalent in separate pieces from Unifi would be:

USG Router $158
Switch 8 $265
UniFi AC Pro $198 (the UDM has a much better AP than the Lite)
Cloud Key $100

If you were looking to reduce costs you could piecemeal it together like you have listed, but then you lose the benefits of the controller 'single-pane of glass' overview of your network. It really depends on what you're looking for and willing to spend, personally I'd grab the Dream Machine but others might not see the value.

Aselwyn1 wrote: ↑Ubiquiti/Synology/Nest are my top 3

marc_t wrote: ↑ The guy’s starting from a D-Link come on, he doesn’t need everything you listed.
The lite AP is probably much better than the dlink.
He’s probably fine with the 4 Ethernet ports on the edgerouter.
As for the cloud key, he can use his phone or his computer. No need to run the controller full time.
Not everyone has over 200$ to put on router/AP.

Mattones wrote: ↑ Hey everyone we are in need of a new router to keep up with our house devices. Currently one is 6 years old and always crashing.

What would you recommend for the average family basics:

High speed Internet
Streaming
Countless devices- phones/tablets/cameras

I know nothing about this type of stuff.

I don’t mind dishing out more for something more powerful.

Thanks!

lead wrote: ↑ Plus we dont know the layout square footage or whether he can run a poe to the lite a or wants to ceiling mount. Plus he could grab most any dual core router or the edge-x and use a tplink e225 or e245 cheaper with same results at much less cost too.

The reality is thats an old 500mhz athero single core cpu thats not gonna cut it much. Figure out your wifi clients, how many? what they could do/limits? square footage? Whats your current isp package?Do you need to bridge. do you need robust 3rdy party firmware support

They may find that their current modem router might suffice in router mode only and just buy a decent AP and just not bother with buying a router at all. Works for alot of people and the new modem routers are powerful just unstabe doing both wifi and routing. But hey many forget that separating those 2 duties and ceiling mount coverage arguably may be more of the improvement ...than the name brand.

coilz wrote: ↑ If you're not very "techy" just get a new router and call it a day. It'll potentially be plug and play if you set your SSID and password to what you had before. The Asus router suggested a few posts above is not bad. If you want to buy potentially two devices, instead of a new router and an Access point, I'd say go with a home use Mesh systems since they're more user friendly to setup.

I have been using 2 Google onhubs in mesh setup for the past few years, no issue with it.

Mattones wrote: ↑ 2000sqft bungalow the current router is set up in the middle of the house. But drops frequently. We are with cogeco an have Ultra fibre 60+ unlimited . So maybe we do just need a AP?

I’m not very ‘techy’ with this type of stuff. Maybe I’ll buy a decent AP and use my current router and see how that goes and if need be buy a new router if need be and have both..

lead wrote: ↑ if your not very technical you should not go ubquiti. Thats not going to be a pleasant easy experience. You can either spend the money on a singular decent router. Or a 2 or 3 pod mesh system. Or try out your existing with a decent AP.

Ok had to lookup what ultra fiber 60 was LOL. Love wording. Read fiber and think fiber optic only to find out its actually just 10/60 mbps.

Ok so 10/60 is on the low side these days. Here lies a area of concern. For example say you had 4k stream from a tv box on your tv? Thats about 80% of all your available bandwidth plus its pulling it at 100% its max rate leaving nothing for anything else that starts to look like your disconnecting. Thats latency at your router wan waiting for its chance. The most powerfull wifi can't fix that. That needs fairtime playness with slower plans. Simple qos may give priority here or there. But simple qos has it limits sqm ( sequential que management) is probably needed for bufferbloat(juggling all the clients wanting to use the internet).

So now you add wifi cameras. Oh boy those can soak your connection(720pand 1080p feeds) if there cloud based. Why? because the feeds have to leave your house and then come back?Fine if your not at home but nuts if you are doing that. Crazy idea but most do that. Most cheap all do that which is really a waste and every one who has dvr's should run something like blue iris and have your own and use your own at home vpn to access the camera. But thats another discussion.

I am just highlighting a bandwidth problem. Now you have Ads too and things like default autoplay video in ads and sites!!!. Boy those back ground apps soak bandwidth as your browsing across multiple devices. Now multiple that by phones,computers tablets,cameras tvboxes 24/7 etc. Then multiple that by display size resolution increases which needs more. That makes everything demanding more bandwidth. Now you have very little left for an isp package that was around 10 yrs ago.

So you might want to rethink what the source of concern actually is. 10/60 is fine for a couple. Not a household with kids and cloud cameras with no real separate tv package that doesn't use internet bandwidth. It won't sustain that.

Every one who runs sub 100 mbps isp packages today....need to consider running some kind of sqm bandwidth shaping to manage the slower rate equally for all clients luckily most dual core routers can accommodate that.Everyone with multiple residents with a ton of smart devices and runs a sub 500mbps isp would probably best served to run an x86 pc to do it. Gigabit isp really doesn't need it for now.

Regardless a system wide ad block to stop adds from coming in or on your router some can help too. So start there. If your not technical its time to start learning a bit. If you don't want to learn...you need to buy a faster isp package. Again Gigabit....doesn't really need any shaping.

So I would grab a decent wirelesss app like the tplink eap225/245 or any decent dul core wifi router s an Ap with mu-mimio support under 100 of course and preferably one with 3rd party firmware support for wifi alone. Then Look in your modem/router for any qos settings and figure out what it can do. In the mean time read about a raspberry and think bout trying "pihole".Even a 10 buck rpi zero will help. Very cheap and everyone should have one now.