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New A/V Receiver and Speaker Recommendations

I'm looking for a few recommendations on a new A/V receicer and some speakers to replace a recently failed Onkyo unit. I have no interest in Onkyo as I've already been burned once by them....literally.

I'd like to go with a Yamaha or Denon unit, maybe Pioneer if it reviews and prices well. In a receiver I'd be looking for 5.1, 4K, networking, Bluetooth, USB, several hdmi in and at least 1 hdmi out. In terms of budget, I'd like to be no more than $500 into the unit. I need something that gives me decently quality and will keep me "in the loop" for the next 5 years. I'm not interested in the new Dolby Atmos at this time.

As for speakers, 5.1 is the end game but I'd likely start with a 3.1 setup then improve as I see fit as I don't really need rears right now. I'm no audiophile but we do watch a ton of movies, listen to a lot of music and I like to game so good power and clarity are important to us. A wireless sub would be an added bonus. That being said I can't break the bank on some new speakers but I don't want to waste my money on some crappy entry level pieces.

Thanks!

Edit: Fwiw I recently picked up a Vizio sound bar to see if I could make due with it, but I'm already noticing as good of a unit as it is it doesn't come close to my previous setup and even that wasn't very high end.
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I had all 4 brands that you mentioned, right now using a midrange Denon, good receiver but experience hand shake issues once in a while. I bought an Onkyo high range receiver once, it was dead on arrival, never went back to them since. The first unit I had was a Pioneer midrange model, I liked the unit and it did not give me any problems. When I upgraded to a Yamaha flagship, I noticed some improvements in sound quality but not sure if it was worth it, and I missed some of the features that the pioneer had.

With perceived sound quality, I liked the Yamaha over the pioneer but that was a more expensive unit. The Denon now is paired with an upgraded speaker system, Kef 5.1 setup, so can't really compare the sound to the other two.

When I upgrade next, I'm going to audition a mid to high-end range pioneer and Yamaha, just by going off my experience with all these receivers.
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Thanks for the input. After spending a few hours reading and researching I'm thinking of either a Denon AVR-S710W or a Yamaha RXV-479/579. I can get either Yamaha now for $500 or less but the Denon is still $600+. I'll likely wait out for a sale or PM opportunity of some sort.

As for speakers, I was thinking of maybe some bookshelf speakers and a sub to start, possibly a centre channel as well but I'll be skipping the rears for now.

Any recommendations on some bookshelves and a decent sub (wireless)?
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You could also look for used speakers on Canuck Audio Mart too.
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Onkyo is terrible. I was fortunate that the one I purchased was warrant replaced by a Yamaha 677. My brother has an Onkyo that's failed twice, and he replaced it with a Yamaha 577. For lower end receivers, they work great and are pretty simple to use.

I have the KEF 300 bookshelf speakers. The sound is very good, but they are lacking in the very low frequencies. A sub helps with that. The efficiency is also a bit low. They were on sale for $300.
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Update: the AVR-S710W went back on sale today at BB for $499 so I picked one up. I've been reading a ton of positive things about the Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers so I'll likely be getting those. I can't seem to find the entire 5.1 setup in Canada, anyone know where I can find it as a whole instead of having to piece it together?
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I never came across a dealer selling the entire package in Toronto. I got the towers, centre, and bookshelves over time from the USA when the CAD was on par to the USD.

Only place I know of is newegg.ca.
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I suggest getting the 4 bookshelves, 1 centre, and a really good sub. I would rather have a good, used SVS than a new Klipsch, Pioneer, etc.

Bookshelves here for $140/pair with free shipping: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD ... 1_1&sr=8-1

Centre for $130 with free shipping: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD ... 1_1&sr=8-1

Used SVS PB12-NSD for $675: http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... subwoofer/

BIC Sub for $375 that has received good reviews: http://www.amazon.ca/BIC-America-F12-47 ... B0015A8Y5M
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audit13 wrote: I suggest getting the 4 bookshelves, 1 centre, and a really good sub. I would rather have a good, used SVS than a new Klipsch, Pioneer, etc.

Bookshelves here for $140/pair with free shipping: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD ... 1_1&sr=8-1

Centre for $130 with free shipping: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B008NCD ... 1_1&sr=8-1

Used SVS PB12-NSD for $675: http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/ ... subwoofer/

BIC Sub for $375 that has received good reviews: http://www.amazon.ca/BIC-America-F12-47 ... B0015A8Y5M
I'm going to grab the towers and centre to start. I thought about the 4 bookshelves but as it sits right now I'm just going to go with a 3.1 setup so I'd rather have more power from the get go. Both of those subs are unfortunately out of the budget at the moment so I'll either have to wait or pick up something on the lower end.

London Drugs sells the Andrew Jones line, just not sure if it's online only. I'll stop by later today and if they have them in store I'll try to PM 2001 A/V and get them now.

After reading so many positive reviews on the Andrew Jones line I'm excited to hear what they actually sound like.
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Good luck in your search.

I had a full Pioneer 5.0 set up (towers, centre, booskshelves) with an SVS PB-10 and the sound was excellent. I was using an Anthem receiver with a HTPC as my media player.

A good sub can make a tremendous difference between a mediocre and great HT system.
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Only suggestion would be to get a proper center that can grow with your system.
BIC FH6-LCR better yet get 3.

These guys also deliver EmpTek

Realistically, I'd start off with 2.1 if budget is an issue however I only saw price for the receiver.

BTW, I originally had the bic-f12 then upgraded. I found it to be pretty good.

I personally would avoid the Pioneers.
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The TV viewing "area" is about 11x15. I use the reference to TV area because my mini home office is a small separate space which is adjacent to the area. Speaker budget is about the same as the receiver @$500 so the Andrew Jones will fit the bill for now and probably foreseeable future. I feel with these I won't be tossing away money on cheap speakers just for the sake of having speakers. They also all match so this is important for me as I only plan on going with a 3.0 setup for the next little while.

The timing of this is what's really killing me here. My old receiver literally just failed without warning so I'm forced to expedite the reconfiguration process which means I can't just tell the wife I'm dropping a couple grand on some new stuff. Well I can but it's just easier not to :p
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I would spend less on the avr and maybe go with a pioneer @ $280 and spend more on the speakers. Either way it will sound better than that vizio. Enjoy your system.
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hyperactiveme wrote: I would spend less on the avr and maybe go with a pioneer @ $280 and spend more on the speakers. Either way it will sound better than that vizio. Enjoy your system.
I agree. No matter how good your AVR is, if your speakers are mediocre, then you will blame the AVR. IMO most of the mid to low level AVRs are similar especially in the 400-600 dollar range. Just go with one that has the best features and a good calibration system. The Calibration is the most important. That is why the more expensive AVRs have the higher end Calibration.
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Successful PM on the speakers at LD. I won't have the receiver until next week but I won't have time to set them up until then anyway.
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Congratulations on your PM. Keep us informed on your progress.
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audit13 wrote: Congratulations on your PM. Keep us informed on your progress.
Thanks. Just need to source some banana plugs and have them here before next weekend. I guess Monoprice and PrimeCables are my best bet. I saw the amazon basics plugs but prefer the style where the wire enters from the rear.

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