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[Newegg] $1200 MSI GF65 Thin Laptop with RTX 3060 (75W) and 144hz display

Build quality isn't the best for this budget laptop, but I think this is a good option if you just care about getting an RTX 3060 at a decent price and upgrade the RAM yourself.

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Edit: same price at Canada Computers and Amazon in case you prefer either local pick up OR easy returns.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU Boost Clock 1485MHz
Max GPU Power with Dynamic Boost 75W 6 GB GDDR6
Intel Core i5 10th Gen 10500H (2.50 GHz) Comet Lake
8 GB Memory
512 GB PCIe SSD
15.6" 1920 x 1080 IPS-Level 144 Hz 45% NTSC Thin Bezel

Strangely enough, this GPU is faster than 80W RTX 3070 according to this reviewer (skip to 3:45)
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I own this laptop, few things. Touchpad feels pretty terrible and almost feels loose. The fan is pretty loud even at idle, and gets quite loud when ramped up. The screen also doesn't feel very bright but it is indeed 144hz which is nice. Overall a decent laptop for the specs but nothing amazing.
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I've been on a hunt for a low cost gaming laptop and this one has been in my top 4. From what I can tell, I believe the screen - while 144hz - has low color match (like half SRGB) and a poor response time in the 20's (ms). That said, I also found conflicting info that says this year's screen is better, at least in terms of sRGB (70% one YouTuber said). So it could be a good screen, could be a bit poor in color match and for ghosting (response time over 8ms means ghosting).

Not the end of the world, and there is no cheaper way to get a laptop 3060 I know of. But going with a $1350 ($1499 - 10% newsletter sign-up coupon) Dell G15 with a Ryzen 5 5600h and RTX 3060 you get:
- a faster CPU (by some benchmarks, other benchmarks disagree... its confusing)
- a 165hz 100% sRGB screen with a sub-8 ms response time
-16 gb RAM
- the 3060 at 110watts, boosting to 125watts

Which is a lot of improvement for $150 more.

So I remain waffling...

(Note that the $1499.99 Ryzen Dell G15 I describe above is temporarily sold out as I type this tho)
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Please be aware that the TDP of these mobile GPUs are no where close to their big brother desktop versions. This means that you will not get the same performance as a desktop 3060. As a safe estimate it's around 75% to 80% performance to be fair.
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Just an anecdote but we bought 2 different models MSI gaming laptops in 2015 and they failed spectacularly. About 1 year 1 month in we got swollen batteries for both. MSI told us to pound sand. We used them plugged in and in another 8 months the fans and speakers broke. I'll never buy another MSI.
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ATLien69 wrote: Please be aware that the TDP of these mobile GPUs are no where close to their big brother desktop versions. This means that you will not get the same performance as a desktop 3060. As a safe estimate it's around 75% to 80% performance to be fair.
About 5-6% difference. In some cases the laptop version pulls ahead.

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restoreDVD wrote: About 5-6% difference. In some cases the laptop version pulls ahead.

highly doubt it. try rtx settings too
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restoreDVD wrote: ???
i doubt youd only get 6% difference if you went into the RTX and 144HZ settings.
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bob12344 wrote: i doubt youd only get 6% difference if you went into the RTX and 144HZ settings.
Good laptop compared to crappy desktop pre-built using a custom cooling solution and power limits, etc, etc. I think dell has a super crappy 3060 card.
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Catherinecc wrote: Good laptop compared to crappy desktop pre-built using a custom cooling solution and power limits, etc, etc. I think dell has a super crappy 3060 card.
???

I am totally lost here. What are you guys talking about??? What crappy pre-built desktop? What custom cooling solution? What Dell?

PS: Dell makes great 30-series cards. Again though, what Dell are you talking about?
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Nov 26, 2017
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3060 on laptops actually perform similarly compared to 3060 on desktops
laptop version has 3840 cuda cores while desktop version has 3584
so if the 3060 are given full power on laptop(like the G15 with 5800H), it actually performs better than 3060 desktop
although desktop version has 12G ram, it wont affect that much

it is the only exception that laptop graphic card performs similar to it's desktop version.
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airbreather134 wrote: 3060 on laptops actually perform similarly compared to 3060 on desktops
laptop version has 3840 cuda cores while desktop version has 3584
so if the 3060 are given full power on laptop(like the G15 with 5800H), it actually performs better than 3060 desktop
althought desktop version has 12G ram, it wont affect that much

it is the only exception that laptop graphic card performs similar to it's desktop version.
This poster is well informed.
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restoreDVD wrote: Dell makes great 30-series cards. Again though, what Dell are you talking about?
Dells are using custom coolers on their custom 30 series cards. Corners were cut.

Dell desktop cards are also power limited, some people were getting around this by flashing firmware on cards a while back. And the in-case cooling tends to be terrible so you're running into thermal limits on top of all that.
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jetfire33 wrote: I've been on a hunt for a low cost gaming laptop and this one has been in my top 4. From what I can tell, I believe the screen - while 144hz - has low color match (like half SRGB) and a poor response time in the 20's (ms). That said, I also found conflicting info that says this year's screen is better, at least in terms of sRGB (70% one YouTuber said). So it could be a good screen, could be a bit poor in color match and for ghosting (response time over 8ms means ghosting).
LOL what? What kind of fail design is this? The frame time for 144Hz is like 7ms, how on Earth did they make a "144Hz" screen that can't keep up with itself? 20ms is not even good enough for 60Hz. If this is true...in the words of AVGN, "What were they thinking??!?"
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Catherinecc wrote: Dells are using custom coolers on their custom 30 series cards. Corners were cut.

Dell desktop cards are also power limited, some people were getting around this by flashing firmware on cards a while back. And the in-case cooling tends to be terrible so you're running into thermal limits on top of all that.


As someone that has bought more than 30 dell cards in the last 6 months, you couldn't be more wrong. Can check my post history on here to discuss the machines I buy.

A dell card will game at the fps as any other card and run cool.

An even better test is the mining. The Dell OEM cards mine better than any non LHR 3060ti or 3070 card I've ever got my hands on.
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ES_Revenge wrote: LOL what? What kind of fail design is this? The frame time for 144Hz is like 7ms, how on Earth did they make a "144Hz" screen that can't keep up with itself? 20ms is not even good enough for 60Hz. If this is true...in the words of AVGN, "What were they thinking??!?"
It seems pretty widespread in the budget gaming laptop world. Jarrod on YouTube has this chart of the ones he has measured. The Dell G15 screen is in red as it is from that latest review.

Screenshot_20210906-214723_YouTube.jpg

You've got to get more than halfway up that list and hit the first 165hz screen to get under 7ms average response time, though there are 2 144hz screens above that getting sub-7ms.
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Catherinecc wrote: Dells are using custom coolers on their custom 30 series cards. Corners were cut.

Dell desktop cards are also power limited, some people were getting around this by flashing firmware on cards a while back. And the in-case cooling tends to be terrible so you're running into thermal limits on top of all that.
I honestly have no clue what you are talking about. Do you have any Dell 30-series cards?

Also, I thought I posted an MSI laptop thread... Why are we talking about Dell desktop cards? Though I am delusional these days so maybe I am getting mixed up in my own threads. Feeling like watching Shutter Island GPU edition.

PS: the YouTube review you referrenced actually said positive things about them.
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Havox07 wrote: I own this laptop, few things. Touchpad feels pretty terrible and almost feels loose. The fan is pretty loud even at idle, and gets quite loud when ramped up. The screen also doesn't feel very bright but it is indeed 144hz which is nice. Overall a decent laptop for the specs but nothing amazing.
Hi, can you charge it using the usb-c port?

Thanks
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vpower wrote: Hi, can you charge it using the usb-c port?

Thanks
No, you have to use the included 180W power adapter to charge this laptop.

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