G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) F4-3600C19D-16GVRB $89.99

...and depends on how much RAM you need, if you need 32GB, this G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 16-19-19-39 @ $185.99 (shipping kinda sucks if you only need the RAM) might worth a look:
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288- ... 6820232907

Thanks, in for a pre-build Ryzen 4000 ITX build

Little poopy timings for a Ryzen system where those matter a little more than usual, but for the price it seems pretty alright.

How much difference is there between PC4 25600 vs PC4 28800?

Have they announced any release date for Ryzen 4000 yet?

AyStar wrote: ↑How much difference is there between PC4 25600 vs PC4 28800?

3200

Just be aware of the CL (latency). This one is pretty high at CL19. AMD Ryzen work a lot better with lower latency.

I ordered the more expensive DDR4 CL16 ram kit. The Ripjaws have 2 versions of CL16 one of which has Samsung B-Die is extremely good at overclocking and righting ram timing.

Best way to explain bandwidth and latency is imagine a storage warehouse. Bandwidth is how much stuff you can carry while latency is your ability to find the item in the warehouse. If either one is slow it results in slower performance.

YoungThunder wrote: ↑ Just be aware of the CL (latency). This one is pretty high at CL19. AMD Ryzen work a lot better with lower latency.

I ordered the more expensive DDR4 CL16 ram kit. The Ripjaws have 2 versions of CL16 one of which has Samsung B-Die is extremely good at overclocking and righting ram timing.

Best way to explain bandwidth and latency is imagine a storage warehouse. Bandwidth is how much stuff you can carry while latency is your ability to find the item in the warehouse. If either one is slow it results in slower performance.

You'll never tell the difference outside of running benchmarks

Always go for cheaper ram if it can be used to upgrade another component

YoungThunder wrote: ↑ Just be aware of the CL (latency). This one is pretty high at CL19. AMD Ryzen work a lot better with lower latency.

I ordered the more expensive DDR4 CL16 ram kit. The Ripjaws have 2 versions of CL16 one of which has Samsung B-Die is extremely good at overclocking and righting ram timing.

Can you link me to the kit you got? Even if it's oos I just want to know for future.

Also if anyone is building for ryzen 4000 then 4000mhz kits can be had for $120

In this thread:
Experts

I couldn't find any conclusive evidence, so I upgraded from my 3000 cl18 to 3600 cl16.

I'm happy, the upgrade was noticeable and not that expensive. Now I also won't wonder "what if" which was worth it by itself

KanataKG wrote: ↑ You'll never tell the difference outside of running benchmarks

Always go for cheaper ram if it can be used to upgrade another component

This isn't cheap real though..
Amazon routinely sells 3200 CL16 for 85 to 90$ no tax and free shipping

3200 CL16 is faster than 3600cl19.
3200cl16 could probably run at 3600 cl19


Edit : looks like amazon is out of stock...

AyStar wrote: ↑ Have they announced any release date for Ryzen 4000 yet?

No

AyStar wrote: ↑ Have they announced any release date for Ryzen 4000 yet?

Q4 of 2020. My guess is Oct as they are doing a refresh of existing gen with the 3600xt, 3900xt that are being released July 7 and Oct will be three months after that so from a quarterly cycle Oct seems likely to me.

mikebmt wrote: ↑ In this thread:
Experts

I couldn't find any conclusive evidence, so I upgraded from my 3000 cl18 to 3600 cl16.

I'm happy, the upgrade was noticeable and not that expensive. Now I also won't wonder "what if" which was worth it by itself

I mean you couldve just googled/youtube'd it yourself. Assuming that it's a Ryzen system then the improvement is less than 10% and even lower if there's another bottleneck (CPU, GPU). So i doubt you actually "saw" much improvement unless you had 8 gigs or less or your ram wasn't running on it's XMP profile.

Zarkey wrote: ↑ Can you link me to the kit you got? Even if it's oos I just want to know for future.

Also if anyone is building for ryzen 4000 then 4000mhz kits can be had for $120

This is the one I purchased. It has the lower latency, QVL with the motherboard I purchased (MSI Tomahawk X570) and it is a confirmed Samsung B-Die.

NewEgg - F4-3600C16D-16GVK

KanataKG wrote: ↑ You'll never tell the difference outside of running benchmarks

Always go for cheaper ram if it can be used to upgrade another component

To each their own. Just wanted to mention the CL19 and to do some additional research for those building Ryzen systems. For Intel based system probably not as relevant.
If the amount ram is all you need then I agree there are certainly lots of cheap ram modules. For Ryzen builds an extra $20-50 on a solid stick of RAM could yield a decent amount of performance.

I just want to be clear, I am no expert at this. I just wanted to post to create awareness that RAM Latency can have a large affect on performance for Ryzen 3000 series processors.
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