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Can I use VoIP with an alarm monitoring service?
rambokid wrote:
Feb 16th, 2016 10:53 am
Would this have a better chance to work with alarm monitor service (DSC panel)?

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/free-pho ... #p21992603
fastlayne wrote:
Mar 24th, 2015 10:03 pm
I use FPL and The Monitoring Center with an old DSC PC3000. I have two FPL numbers - one for the house phone system and one for the alarm.

I connected the DSC directly to a dedicated VOIP ATA. I did not want the DSC seizing my phone line and for $40 the extra ATA isolates any problems. If I needed to tweak the DSC ATA, I did not have to change my house phone ATA.

I had some problems initially with the useless Cisco SPA112, but have not had any problems with the Obi100.

(Disclaimer: I assume all risks in using VOIP for my alarm system. Thanks to everyone that is worried about my well being.)
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fastlayne wrote:
Oct 1st, 2015 8:45 pm
My Freephoneline, Obi100 ATA, and DSC PC3000 (?) all play nice together.

It is very easy, at least for DSC, to use a RJ45 straight coupler to connect directly to the ATA with a short length of RJ11 cable.

This creates a dedicated configuration without having to play with any house wiring or the RJ31X and gives the alarm system its own "phone line".
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kanata2004 wrote:I use freephone line + Grandstream HT502 and it works great with my alarm company (ADT). Also I tried the Fido home phone (gsm based) and it works fine too. I went with Freephoneline way since no monthly cost. I tried FPL + Obi200 device and it works just fine too. Search RFD if you want know more obi200 and Freephoneline . There are thousands of posts.

You can make the alarm system work first and switch internet after.
Freephoneline users may find this thread useful: http://forum.fongo.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19236.




This post might be a good starting point: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/voip-ms- ... #p16112120


Anyway, clearly, it's possible:


http://forums.redflagdeals.com/voip-ms- ... st16144590

mintchoco is using voip.ms with The Monitoring Centre with an Obihai ATA.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/voip-ms- ... #p22798293

Willyburan is using Callcentric (another popular VoIP service provider) with an OBi110

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/voip-hom ... #p16383484

c-ditty is using voip.ms with a Linksys PAP2T






But using VoIP may be less reliable than using a landline for an alarm monitoring service, except you should take note of what Pianoguy mentions below.

Setting up a VoIP service with alarm systems is not especially easy for everyone. So, if you're going to attempt this yourself, don't except guaranteed success.




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Pianoguy wrote: The service provider is not really relevant because everyone uses the G.711u codec. Setting up your equipment correctly will make the difference.

AcroVoice offers support for alarm systems, and they will preconfigure your device so that it is ready to go as soon as you receive it. If you want to DIY your VoIP setup, the OBi200 and OBi202 ATAs allow you to configure a fixed jitter buffer, which is crucial for reliable data transmission. Look in the admin guide for $NOJI1 and also $NOEC1.

Acrovoice's website can be found here: https://www.acrovoice.ca/content/residential_service

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Pianoguy wrote:I would make the argument that an alarm system connected to a POTS line is not reliable. If your demarc is mounted outdoors, an intruder could simply disconnect the line.

Instead, why not buy a system that connects to the monitoring station via cell, and perhaps also via IP so you can monitor it from your phone?

If you have a smartphone, this device will allow you to monitor your alarm with it. No fees beyond equipment purchase and installation:
https://www.eyez-on.com/EZMAIN/envisalink3.php

You can receive a text message when your alarm trips, and there are no monthly fees. The downside is no police dispatch, but (at least in Vancouver) it's slow enough that there's not a great deal of value there.


It should also be noted that many alarm systems have batteries. So if there's a really long power outage, your alarm system may not work either, depending on the system.
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How do I connect an ATA to my house, so that all existing phone jacks work?

You may need to disconnect your Telco company's line at the demarc--or make sure power from it is not running to your existing phone jacks. Otherwise, you run this risk of frying your ATA. Visit http://www.voipmyhouse.com/#thesolution.

Also, check out bogolisk and canadaodyowner's pictures/posts over here: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-f ... 21229/331/
Better to ask them about it than me.

There's a related thread over here (might be a good place to ask): http://forums.redflagdeals.com/phone-ja ... #p16243162
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How do I remove the requirement to dial **2 to dial out on SP2?

For people wanting to remove the requirement to dial **2 before the phone number to dial out using the service provider on SP2, for example, you might want to ask X360 for help. This post might be useful to you: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/freephon ... #p20004155

If you just want to press "1" to dial out on SP2, visit http://forums.redflagdeals.com/freephon ... #p24412847

You might also want to work your way through my responses to RedBargainz: no-incoming-calls-google-voice-2019683/3/#p26535001.

Otherwise, ask at https://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php?board=3.0.

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I'm getting choppy audio, what should I do?

Generally speaking it's best to have a decent router for VoIP with strong QoS features.
Stick your ISP's modem in bridge mode, use your own router, and properly enable QoS for your ATA.
Refer to your router's manual.

I'm not a big fan of this site, but for a general QoS description, visit http://www.voipmechanic.com/qos-for-voip.htm (avoid anything it says about G729 codec).

I'm suggesting Toronto below, because FPL's SIP servers are in Ontario. When you test, pick the location that is closest to your VoIP service provider's server location.
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Mar 30th, 2016 11:28 pm
Have been using freephoneline with obihai 202 behind Asus RT N66U router. Often time people complain that my voice very choppy on their end, yet I seem to hear them fine. Is there setting that I should tweak on ATA set up or on router? Thanks very much
That's usually related to upload jitter/packet loss.

1) The typical reaction would be to try enabling QoS properly in your router for your ATA. Refer to your router's manual.

Probably in the traffic manager area, use a drop down box to select "User Defined Rules". Then create a rule giving traffic highest priority to your ATA's MAC address.

2) Another possibility is you're dealing with congestion during prime time (8p.m. to midnight, especially on Sundays). That's an ISP issue (possibly oversold its service in your area).

Try running Running http://vac.visualware.com/index.html at 8p.m. (especially on Sunday).

Pick the test location that's closest to where your VoIP server is situated.
A MOS score below 4.0 is bad news. It means call quality will not be good.
The advanced (+) tab provides interesting info.

You should also try the winmtr test I mention over here around 8 p.m. to FPL's servers:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/newegg-o ... #p27515963

Anything over 200ms is unacceptable.

What you don't want to see is 40, 45, 50, 35, 500, 40, 30, 45, 700. That's bad jitter.
You want relatively consistent pings without a lot of variation.

One reason why jitter can occur is due to other devices on your LAN (local area network) using bandwidth. That’s why properly enabling QoS in your router for your ATA is always a good idea. Refer to point 4 in the Preamble.

Bad jitter can produce broken up audio or choppiness during phone calls. Severe jitter can cause calls to drop. Ping affects delay.

If the problem only occurs during prime time (as opposed to weekday mornings), then I would probably start thinking your ISP is to blame.


Navon01 wrote:
Apr 7th, 2016 11:17 pm
The Internet is 100down/10up.
Down doesn't matter. What people hear from you is upload.
No other devices are being used at time of bad voice quality.
A lot of people say that without realizing other devices and/or programs may actually be using bandwidth in the background. It's really not a good idea, in general, to be using a router that doesn't have a good QoS feature for VoIP.

But if what you wrote is really true, then you may be dealing the possibility of congestion during prime time (8p.m. to midnight, especially on Sundays). That's an ISP issue (possibly oversold its service in your area).

Try running http://vac.visualware.com/index.html at 8p.m. (or between 8 p.m. and 11 p.m.)

Select a test server location that's located close to the SIP server you're using.
A MOS score below 4.0 is bad news. It means call quality will not be good.


You should also try the winmtr test (or if you're on a mac, maybe this helps: https://www.reddit.com/r/TagPro/comment ... tr_on_mac/) I mention over here around 8 p.m. to FPL's servers:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/newegg-o ... #p27515963

If the problem only occurs during prime time (as opposed to weekday mornings), then I would probably start thinking your ISP is to blame.
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I'm having trouble with not receiving incoming calls to Google Voice. What should I do?

Well, first click http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php? ... 9#msg84139, and read that fully.

You need a Google Voice phone number. I won't be assisting people in getting one.

Make sure your Obihai ATA firmware is updated.

Then visit http://www.obitalk.com/forum/index.php? ... 0#msg56460 and read that post fully.


Also visit http://www.obihai.com/support/troubleshooting/sg/inc
Click the link, select the "I am using Google Voice" option, and look at the pic.



"Check" Google Chat.


1. Sign in to your Google Voice account
2. Go to "Settings" located on the top right (cog wheel)
3. On the Phone tab, you will see a "Delete" option under Google Chat
4. Click "Delete" Google Chat
5. Open a new browser and sign in to www.gmail.com using your Gmail account. You will see Gmail Call Phone (located on the bottom left corner).
6. Make a call out from your Gmail Call Phone
7. Once you have done so, Google Chat should appear again in https://www.google.com/voice#phones
8. Make sure to check the checkbox for Google Chat


If you are still not able to receive incoming calls, check if your email underneath Google Chat is an @gmail.com account and/or delete and re-add Google Chat.

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Why am I not receiving Caller ID Name information on all incoming calls?


CNAM lookups are dependent upon your VoIP service provider--and not the Obihai ATA.

Freephoneline doesn't do CNAM lookups (I.E., Freephoneline doesn't lookup the name of the caller, using the incoming phone number, in an external database). Unless CNAM is being sent by the call provider, which often is not the case with cellular calls, only the phone numbers are going to appear. CNAM lookups cost money, and for a moderately priced one time fee, FPL isn't going to do CNAM lookups.

http://forum.fongo.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 68&p=25678 (a lot of replies in that thread are incorrect; CNAM will show up if it's sent by the provider)
"Just a reminder, as has been provided in other threads, when the call display feature is enabled, it will only show the information that is being sent by the provider. If that provider only sends a number, we can only display a number. This is especially common for cell phone providers and a number of digital service providers."--Fongo_mike"

So, with an incoming call to your FPL #, an incoming phone number will appear on your callerid, but a name only shows if that info is also sent by the provider. Other VoIP services typically charge a fee per call to do a lookup in a CNAM database (phone number is queried for a name in a database). FPL doesn't offer that option. If CNAM info is passed on by the provider, FPL will display CNAM.



With VoIP.ms, CNAM is only guaranteed with Premium routes.

Google Voice doesn't support outbound CNAM. If something ever displays in the name field from a GV call, the CNAM info was populated by the recipient's service provider, which would have likely done a CNAM lookup from a database. You cannot simply add your name either for your name to show up when using GV. You may be able to get your name listed in a CNAM database (often by paying), but there's no guarantee the provider being used by the person you're calling is using that database. Refer to http://classroom.synonym.com/comes-up-c ... 13680.html
GV also doesn't support inbound CNAM.


Freephoneline, VoIP.ms, Anveo, Callcentric, etc. support outbound and inbound CNAM.
But FPL will not do CNAM lookups (which cost money).
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I've heard scary stuff about VoIP 911. Isn't it unreliable?

VoIP E911 is a two step process. With Freephonline, after dialing 911, the initial E911 call centre, which does have my name, address, and call back number, still has to transfer the call to local dispatch (PSAP), which doesn't have my name, address, and phone number.

It's important, when signing up to a VoIP service you're planning on using 911 with that you always keep your address updated on file with them. If you move, update your address. Your VoIP service sends that information to the E911 call centre/Northern911, which they will keep on file.

In some rare instances, I suppose it's possible that Northern911 (I'm guessing this is what FPL and other VoIP services in Canada use, but I'm not sure) may not transfer to the correct local dispatch (PSAP) number (human error happens). Some people I configured services for in the past were very paranoid about VoIP E911 and forced me to do a test call. Worked fine. That is, the first person I reached had name and address info; they ask for confirmation. And the call was promptly transferred to local dispatch and correct address info was given to local dispatch, verbally, by the first call centre. Worked fine each and every time I was asked to test.

How does this compare to 911 with a landline?

Landline 911 is not a two-step process. You don't need to keep your address updated. Landlines are the most reliable for 911 calls.
But landlines don't work after your telephone lines have been knocked out by a storm.

How does this compare with Mobile 911?

Mobile 911 is not a two step process. However, they do not have your exact address, but they should have an approximate location (they should at least have the cellular site/tower that's carrying your call), especially if you're in a major city (they may have latitude and longitude). If you're in a rural area, location based on cellular towers may not be very precise. 70%+ of 911 calls are now coming from mobile phones according to the CRTC. Going forward, this is where improvements are going to be made.


Also, keep in mind that with FPL each E911 call is $35. If you dial 911 less than twice a year vs. paying $1.50 USD/month with Callcentric, Anveo, or VoIP.ms, you're ahead with FPL. And you're paying an ongoing minimum monthly fee of $3.98 with Ooma. Ask yourself how often you're calling 911. If you're a senior citizen with a lot of health issues, maybe FPL is a bad idea. (And I don't mean to belittle this point. Everyone gets old. Health is a serious matter.) Otherwise, you'll end up way ahead using a FPL in the long run (in terms of cost).

Here's the thing . . . I used to talk to FPL reps several years ago over the phone, back when they allowed tech support calls. And even then a e911 fee was listed (but not in the FAQs), and I inquired about it. I was told the fee was intended to dissuade people from test calling 911--and that people wouldn't actually be charged.

Fast forward to now, and the $35 per call E911 fee is listed in the FAQs. It's listed all over the place. It's certainly enough to prevent me from testing 911 on FPL. Reps are now saying you will be charged no matter what when you dial 911. Is that true? Maybe. Is that enough to scare me from testing 911? Sure. Has anyone been charged yet? I don't know. Anyway, no one is going to be calling 911 using FPL unless it's really necessary now, and if that's the intent, I'm fine with it. And if I really need E911 as a backup (my smartphone is always nearby), it's there for me. In the meantime, I'm not paying ongoing monthly fees for something I'm not using.

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__wizard__ wrote:
Jul 4th, 2017 4:42 pm
As a customer with FPL, I used 911 service 3 months ago and never got the $35 charge
YMMV (your mileage may vary)


Obihai OBi200/202 ATAs with the OBiBT adapter can be paired with smartphones over bluetooth: http://www.obihai.com/obibt.
Then with an Obihai OBi 200/202 ATA, you'd add {911:bt} in your OutboundCallRoute, and then all of your 911 calls on your phones go out over your smartphone's 911 cellular service, provided your smartphone remains within bluetooth range of the ATA.


By the way, There's also Anveo's E911 service ($25 USD per year) available through the Obitalk.com web portal, as an alternative 911 service (limited to a maximum of 5 e911 calls per year): https://www.anveo.com/e911obi.asp (click the link for more information). People asking for help with this Anveo E911 service should probably ask canadaodyowner, who is using this service and is also a Freephoneline customer: freephoneline-ca-free-local-soft-phone- ... #p24980477. I have no experience with Anveo's special E911 service.


VoIP E911 is available all the time under these conditions:

1) You have electricity. A UPS is always a good idea.

2) Your internet service isn't out.

3) Your VoIP service isn't down.

I don't know anyone who doesn't have a smartphone.
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By the way, even if you don't have a Google Voice phone number, you can still make calls anywhere within Canada and the U.S., provided you have a Google Voice account (it doesn't require you to have a U.S. Google Voice phone number). You just won't have a phone number with Google Voice.

The requirement to create a Google Voice account is a U.S. IP address.
The requirement for to obtain a Google Voice phone number is both a U.S. IP address and a real (non-VoIP) U.S. phone number.

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jarfgames wrote:
Jan 23rd, 2017 6:52 pm
I am wondering if GV doesn't accept Freedompop numbers for setti up a new GV number
Correct.

Read the posts by Red Leatherman here: https://productforums.google.com/forum/ ... Ja7DUHSOfQ
Red Letherman wrote: If you want to get a Google voice number, you need to verify a forwarding phone. that forwarding phone will be screened by an automated process that checks it and decides whether you can or can't use it.
The process doesn't screen the forwarding number until you choose the Google number.

If you can't use the forwarding phone to create a Google voice account, you will continue to get that same error when you try to create your account.
You can try again later or try adding a different forwarding number.
That number needs to be from a mobile or a landline, not a VoIP number.


Because a number is a "legit" mobile number doesn't mean that it will be accepted.

The number must have not been used previously on a Google voice account.
There will be some other criteria that the number will be screened for.

If you have tried a few Google numbers and continue to receive the error, then the error is that the forwarding phone is being rejected by Google's screening process and you will have to use a different forwarding number.

If you want to take it a step further, try it on a different Google account if you think the one you have is corrupt and see if it takes.


If you keep pressing to verify, Google may bar you for a day or so for repeated attempts,
but if after that you continue to get the error,
it's either because your phone is not eligible to be used to get a Google voice number
or you are being blocked by Google from getting a Google voice number.


The reasons that Google accounts are not eligible to be assigned a Google Voice inbound telephone number include (but may not be limited to):

The submitted number is from a telephone carrier that is ineligible to be used to claim a Google Voice number. Submit a number from a different carrier.
The submitted number has been previously used by either you, or the previous user of that number, to request a Google Voice number. Submit a different number.
The submitted number is outside the 48 contiguous US states. Submit a number from within the 48 contiguous US states.
Your Google account has been flagged for some violation of Google's Terms of Service or its Acceptable Use Policy. You are ineligible to get a Google Voice number.

These limitations are in place to protect the service from abuse. As such, to limit information which could be used to reverse-engineer the protections, Google will not provide any more-specific details on individual cases where a number request has been denied.

I will not assist anyone with obtaining Google Voice phone numbers (please don't PM me), and the information here is posted publicly on Google's own product forums already.
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FYI .. Google Voice is no longer supported on the ObiHai 100 series ATAs. Something to do with not supporting the new authentications mechanism Google is using.
Maybe you covered it already ... a lot of good info here, so it got buried somewhere
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DaMooli wrote:
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FYI .. Google Voice is no longer supported on the ObiHai 100 series ATAs.
Yeah. I mentioned that in the first post in this thread under the graphic comparing the different models.
And I created an announcement on RFD on November 2nd: google-voice-xmpp-support-ends-obi100-1 ... s-2139232/.

But I appreciate you trying to let me know, regardless. Thank you
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jigz787 wrote:
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Have been using this device connected with 2 lines since last 3 years with google voice and freephoneline.ca
Very happy with both, device and the service from freephoneline.
Saves me a huge on landline phone bills + long distance minutes from my cellphone bills.

Good stuff. There's nothing cheaper in the long run for a Canadian home phone number.

If you're interested at all, the Freephoneline PDF guide can be found at http://forum.fongo.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 805#p73839, just in case you want to go over some settings or maybe look at how to use the Auto Attendant, Nomorobo, etc.
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Bought the last time this went on sale

DO RECOMMEND

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PLEASE use Webslingers tutorial on setting it up ( it looks complicated, but its not )
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Bought the last time this went on sale

DO RECOMMEND

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PLEASE use Webslingers tutorial on setting it up ( it looks complicated, but its not )
I'm glad you found the PDF useful.
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Newegg.com in the U.S. has the OBi202 on sale for $54.99 USD after using promo code EMCBBCB49 until Thursday: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6833617003.
I'm not sure why the OBi202 seems to go on sale so infrequently in Canada.
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