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[Newegg] Synology DS1520+ NAS $869.99 ($909.99 - $40 with code CEMCEXEY22)

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[Newegg] Synology DS1520+ NAS $869.99 ($909.99 - $40 with code CEMCEXEY22)

The DS-1520+ is a five-bay network storage device. Newegg has it on sale for $909.99; add code CEMCEXEY22 to your cart for an additional $40.00 off the price bringing it to $869.99.
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Wasn’t this $700 on Amazon?
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hopsoid wrote: Wasn’t this $700 on Amazon?
Only for a flash I think, most people missed that
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UnexpectedToken wrote: Wouldn't you want to get a DS1621+ for $180 more?
The OP posted a good deal, so definitely deserves thanks.

But if you can spare the extra cash I would go for the 1621+. It will wind up being more expensive (comes with less RAM I think) but it has advantages:
- extra drive bay
- ECC RAM
- better quality construction
- 10Gb ethernet capable
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UnexpectedToken wrote: Wouldn't you want to get a DS1621+ for $180 more?
Not necessarily. DS1621+ can't do Plex transcodes.
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Dave510 wrote: Not necessarily. DS1621+ can't do Plex transcodes.
And 90% of the people using it have no use for transcoding. If I am at home on my media box on my TV, WHY would I want to transcode. Stream as is. I have disabled transcode on my Synology DS1817+ (which I use for Plex) and works like a charm with anything I throw at it. Let the Media box decode the raw stream.
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This is interesting. If true then yeah the DS1621+ is probably the better long term buy.
Emporium wrote: And 90% of the people using it have no use for transcoding. If I am at home on my media box on my TV, WHY would I want to transcode. Stream as is. I have disabled transcode on my Synology DS1817+ (which I use for Plex) and works like a charm with anything I throw at it. Let the Media box decode the raw stream.
For your usage, sure, but that wasn't what I was replying to. The original question was why ANYONE would opt for a 1520+ over a 1621+, and that's because not everyone in the world has the exact same use case as you? I know I need transcoding because I want to be able to stream on cellular and conserve bandwidth at the same time. Also, I would much rather watch foreign films with subtitles, and other users in my house have their own preferred language for subtitles.
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Dave510 wrote:
For your usage, sure, but that wasn't what I was replying to. The original question was why ANYONE would opt for a 1520+ over a 1621+, and that's because not everyone in the world has the exact same use case as you? I know I need transcoding because I want to be able to stream on cellular and conserve bandwidth at the same time. Also, I would much rather watch foreign films with subtitles, and other users in my house have their own preferred language for subtitles.
OK, I think your situation is very specific. And yes, transcoding is needed if you plant to watch remotely with limited bandwidth. But not many people I know stream their movies from their HOME NAS, using their Cell phone data plans :) And most that would try, would probably do it all wrong and expose their NAS to the outside world by redirecting ports, instead of creating a VPN server at home and using that to get into their local network. So I would advise against it, unless you know what you are doing, or willing to take the risk.

And what do subtitles have to do with transcoding ? Nowadays pretty much every rip includes embedded subtitles of many languages already in the container (mkv or otherwise), or just include the various SRT files which will be read by most media players during playback anyhow.

But yes, as you mentioned, IF you "need" transcoding, the 1520 is a better option. But you don't "need" transcoding to use plex in a local network environment.
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The only reason to get this over the 1621+ is if you have a lot of people that use Plex offsite and you absolutely need to transcode. I bought a 1520 and now I really regret not spending the extra after reading about all the additional features and better build quality.
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UnexpectedToken wrote: Wouldn't you want to get a DS1621+ for $180 more?
Well, or buy DS1821+ for yet another $200 more, but you get 2 more bays instead of just 1 more.
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Slightly off topic, but have lower end NAS's stopped being produced? Used to be lots of diskless options for $2-300, but now far higher unless you buy an ancient design.
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AndrewBond wrote: Slightly off topic, but have lower end NAS's stopped being produced? Used to be lots of diskless options for $2-300, but now far higher unless you buy an ancient design.
Plenty of budget units out there. Stuff like the Synology DS220j is only just over $200. Or if you don't want to pay the synology premium (which I think is worth it)., there is also units like this Terramaster 2 bay which is $200 and on paper a lot better specs. And they have a 4 bay unit for $350. But don't expect the support and refined software as with the synology. You also have a few low end qnap units in that price range. And there are some Asustor units also in that price range. Let's not forget the true entry level of the WD Cloud devices, where the diskless version will run you just under $190

As networks have evolved in peoples homes, people want more and more out of NAS servers. Once upon a time, they were for strictly storing data. And Just for that, the budget J series from synology are fine for that.
But nowadays we want our units to do more, like running plex servers, surveillance stations to effectively replace NVR units for IP cams, running VMs and docker instances (I even run Pihole in docker, and even Jellyfin media server). Many even run controllers for stuff like UniFi controllers, and/or Tplink Omada controllers. Running transmission for automated torrent downloads and even stuff like couchpatato for automated newgroup downloads of series/movies/etc... Many use it as a VPN server, DHCP server, and even to act as an AD server. Others run SQL Dbs for other software, and the uses are endless.

The more you want to run, the more power you will need, and in some cases (like transcoding) some units have custom processing power for that. And as we all know, for synology, you pay a premium for the R&D and software collection that you have access to, that most of the time, works right out of the box. You are not just paying the "cost" of hardware.

I've been running synology ever since I ditched my old Dlink DNS-343 units, and switched to a synology DS508 over a dozen or so years ago, and do not regret it.

I did try home made solutions with freenas and other distributions and it was fun. Yes you can build more powerful devices, but just don't have time to keep messing with them and updating them. Running 24/7 I just wanted something quiet, and "relatively" energy efficient. Synology was just simple and it has worked.

But, it all depends on what you want ,need and willing to spend.

Hey, for some people, tethering a USB drive onto one of the USB ports of their router, and accessing that as a network drive, is more than enough.
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I’ve been going back and forth on Synology the last few months.. I have pretty much settled on the DS1821+ for most of the reason listed above.

The only thing holding me back was the lack of a 10GBe port. However, the more I think about it the more I’ve realized I just don’t need it in a home environment and can always add it later if need be.

I’d have also wanted a rack mount option… but too much for too little (if any) benefit in their base configurations.
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Cam101 wrote: I’ve been going back and forth on Synology the last few months.. I have pretty much settled on the DS1821+ for most of the reason listed above.

The only thing holding me back was the lack of a 10GBe port. However, the more I think about it the more I’ve realized I just don’t need it in a home environment and can always add it later if need be.

I’d have also wanted a rack mount option… but too much for too little (if any) benefit in their base configurations.

You can always add an intel x540 dual port 10GbE later (if you ever need it) which can easily be had on ebay for under $100. Just make sure to get it with the low profile bracket included.

I unfortunately have way too many synology desktop NAS units (2x DS1817, 2x DS1517+, 2x DS1618+, and a few DS1515+). So recently I decided to get myself a small RACK and decided to "consolidate" them into a small 12U rack.
Got myself 1x RS3617xs+ as a main unit (with 10x 12TB EXOS drives + 2x 1TB SSD cache), 2x RS2418+ units, and 1 RS818+. Paired them up with some nice UPS units (will probably only keep 1 - I just happened to have the second one), and 2 switches (1x 12 port Netgear 10Gbe XS712T, and one small Cisco 2960CG-8TC). As much as I like the rack mount option, it is a lot more expensive per unit.

Yes, it is overkill for most people. Hopefully over the 2 long weekends coming up at the end of the month, I'll have some time to finish off the build and set them all up and start the migration process.

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everytime I think of switching from a computer to a nas for my plex server I end up saying this is way overpriced for what it is and what it does
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Emporium wrote: OK, I think your situation is very specific. And yes, transcoding is needed if you plant to watch remotely with limited bandwidth. But not many people I know stream their movies from their HOME NAS, using their Cell phone data plans :) And most that would try, would probably do it all wrong and expose their NAS to the outside world by redirecting ports, instead of creating a VPN server at home and using that to get into their local network. So I would advise against it, unless you know what you are doing, or willing to take the risk.

And what do subtitles have to do with transcoding ? Nowadays pretty much every rip includes embedded subtitles of many languages already in the container (mkv or otherwise), or just include the various SRT files which will be read by most media players during playback anyhow.

But yes, as you mentioned, IF you "need" transcoding, the 1520 is a better option. But you don't "need" transcoding to use plex in a local network environment.
You are in the minority. Most Plex users, use some sort of transcoding. Users are going to have Plex Server and set it up with remote access enabled and just log into their server and watch content and let the server do its thing and transcode if necessary. People may create a VPN to their home network, but it's highly unlikely that someone is going to create a VPN to their home network, just to watch Plex.

If you don't "need" transcoding you can run your Plex server on a RaspberryPi. It's like you don't even know what Plex is...
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I recently bought this to replace my home media server. Is this more expensive than a DIY? Yes. But in my case, I need a set it and forget it solution. With a child now, I don't have the time to constantly maintain my stuff like I once did. And I like the small form factor and easy to use interface. I was also able to use all my drives, some of them mixed, and create a SHR setup that some of the enterprise(higher # of bays) solutions don't support. I'm very happy with this setup, I've got Plex, usenet and personal storage going so far. I can host a ton of other cloud based solutions too. Two thumbs up.

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