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Wow... Phasmophobia is not very enjoyable for me in VR... I already got a return label from Amazon... Will try it again and if I don't like it, I'll be returning my Rift S :(
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danascully wrote: Rofl

FB is Complete non issue. Do you complain about ANY of the other million services you need to have to create a login for?

Oculus Quest 2 is better than the Rift S.

And you still see people selling CV1 and used Rift S for more than $399 lmao
I don't have FB, Instagram or other social media services. I had Twitter to use for entering contests but that got locked and I have not seen a need to get it unlocked. I don't see why I would need a Facebook account to use something not directly connected to that service. My Go headset doesn't need an account. They should have left the Quest 2 without that requirement as well but I guess they want to sell ads and your data and keep tabs on what you are viewing. Its like buying a car but you can only put 1 company's gasoline into it. And I'm not alone. Many people on the Reddit VR forums are also not going to buy a Quest 2 for the same reason. There are more options coming out later this year anyway...
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capogalo wrote: The Facebook is a poor excuse, most people have Facebook and if you have privacy concerns about it, you shouldn't be sharing personal private stuff on Facebook, if you bought an oculus whatever, facebook without login already has all your contact information and if you use WhatsApp (owned by Facebook) well it already has all your contacts and messages, so that's that, adding that by 2023 the rift s will be more than dead with new headsets coming from everywhere, even worse if its being discontinued next year.
danascully wrote: FB is Complete non issue. Do you complain about ANY of the other million services you need to have to create a login for?
These are gross misunderstandings of the privacy concerns over Facebook. If you don't care one bit about privacy, sure go for a Quest 2. But all of this finger pointing at other law abiding services is like lumping petty theft and murder together.

Don't buy Oculus products if you can help it, even if you ignore all of the privacy issues, the fact that Facebook is jamming their accounts down Oculus owners' throats shouldn't be taken lying down.
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Firebolt wrote: Everyone that's says quest 2 virtual desktop and link has no downside vs rift s play either non intensive games or are fairly casual.

I bought the original quest 1 pretty much mainly for beat saber and have played custom songs on native quest beat saber as well as pcvr through link. I can say there is absolutely no way you can climb leader boards with link bandwidth limitations killing tracking and overall game stutter. I am playing with a 3060ti and still the system does not handle well with mods. This is already with direct usb c output from my motherboard so it should be the fastest possible. I would not even imagine trying wireless.

Picked up a 2nd hand vive recently because I wanted base stations and even with the horrid screen compared and required wires, the tracking experience and no in game stutter is infinitely better. Just need to get used to the heavy controllers now.

In casual slow games like phasmophobia, I would have no issue playing on the quest through link or wireless. But if you actually want to be competitive I cannot recommend the quest if you want to use pcvr. Quest version of games is another story. Quest would still be the one I recommend to any 1st time vr buyers esp since gaming pc requirements are removed so entry point much lower. However, everyone in the thread making it seem that the rift s is completely irrelevant because of the quest 2 has probably not experienced enough issues.
I owned both the Quest 1 and Quest 2 (my friend owns the Rift S I have access to) and I can confidently say that the Quest 2 has MASSIVE improvements in wireless (and wired) connectivity over the Quest 1. After a lot of testing with a high end router set up and settings tweaking with ALVR I could definitely see people playing competitively in beat saber although I would not recommend it over playing natively on the Quest. Even though the latency is minimal with some tweaks nothing compares to natively on the Quest 2 because at a high level every little bit counts and playing wireless PCVR beat saber WILL overall very likely cause a hiccup every once in a while.

The Quest 2’s XR2 chip blows the Quest 1 away which had huge decoding problems above 150-200 bitrate especially wirelessly.

Also the Quest 2 is high and above better than the Rift S with the latest firmware all coming out for the Oculus Link and ALVR/Virtual Desktop. Oculus link still has a way to go but at 300-500 bitrate and some settings tweaks it looks better than the Rift S and has no hiccups while wired. If you only play PCVR seated 100% of the time AND have a PC with lower specs (Quest 2 is harder to run as you have to render the game at a higher resolution and frame rate AND encode it seamlessly or the Rift S will look better) I could possibly consider some people liking the Rift S subjectively more than the Quest 2 but for most even just the simple 90hz (if your PC can push it) made VR so much more comfortable for me vs 72hz on quest 1 and 80hz on Rift S.

Wireless is the way I personally use it most of the time even with the odd micro hiccup here and there because of the comfort factor and wireless at 250 bitrate through ALVR with graphics tweaks looks so good you are hard pressed to tell the difference compared to Link.
PharaohsVizier wrote: These are gross misunderstandings of the privacy concerns over Facebook. If you don't care one bit about privacy, sure go for a Quest 2. But all of this finger pointing at other law abiding services is like lumping petty theft and murder together.

Don't buy Oculus products if you can help it, even if you ignore all of the privacy issues, the fact that Facebook is jamming their accounts down Oculus owners' throats shouldn't be taken lying down.
This gentleman is correct, while I love the Quest 2 if I had any other option for what it does I would have bought that instead. Facebook is a very real problem and it being forced here deserves its own mention.

Hopefully in the very near future Facebook, as it stands as the evil-entity today, will be gutted and replaced by a better Facebook but that’s off-topic.

Sorry for the poor formatting, typing this all up on mobile to offer my opinion on the Quest 2 vs Rift S topic
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Just to add to the discussion, Eleven Table Tennis is a fast pace Table Tennis sim where accurate tracking is super important. The dev has recently reiterated that playing the Steam version of the game on Quest / Quest 2 will result in a poor tracking experience and recommends people to play the native Oculus version instead for those headsets.
JoJoCan wrote: Wow... Phasmophobia is not very enjoyable for me in VR... I already got a return label from Amazon... Will try it again and if I don't like it, I'll be returning my Rift S :(
So you like the game but just not in VR?
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Read through the thread and all I can see is there are some super stubborn mofos on here who have their mind set on rift s vs quest 2.

Big ass posts from people saying quest 2 is better, yet people still gravitating towards rift????

The general consensus on the internet seems the quest > rift

I don’t get people sometimes lmfao....why even come to this thread if your minds set and you don’t want it changed.

This thread was helpful for me, I’ll buy a quest 2 off kijiji when it’s cheap enough. Before this thread I almost bought a rift s off kijiji.
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randomkidx wrote: Read through the thread and all I can see is there are some super stubborn mofos on here who have their mind set on rift s vs quest 2.

Big ass posts from people saying quest 2 is better, yet people still gravitating towards rift????

The general consensus on the internet seems the quest > rift

I don’t get people sometimes lmfao....why even come to this thread if your minds set and you don’t want it changed.

This thread was helpful for me, I’ll buy a quest 2 off kijiji when it’s cheap enough. Before this thread I almost bought a rift s off kijiji.
I think both serve different audiences with the Quest 2 being a bit more flexible option. I chose Quest 2 based on the flexibility at the sacrifice of tiny bit more video latency for PCVR.

Quest 2 is good for VR starters without a PC as it can run Quest titles natively without added hardware. It can also provide a PCVR experience if you have a capable PC. It can be wired or wireless, provided you have a good cable and/or wireless network. The video stream requires your PC to encode the video to the Quest 2 and has a slight latency 20-40ms. Quest 2 has a better screen with higher refresh rate. Comfort is subjective but the Quest 2 strap is cheaper. Aftermarket straps can make this better.

Rift S has a bit better video latency as it's dedicated to PCVR but the screens are better on the Quest 2. It can only play PCVR titles and has to be wired.

I do have a capable PC but just got the Quest 2 after doing this research and reading this thread. Flexibility is important for me. I got an aftermarket halo strap to combat the comfort issue.

Hope this helps people.
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Good thread. I'll probably gravitate to a quest 2 when a deal comes along.

Whats the consensus on storage size. Is 64GB enough considering many games are hitting 50-100gb? Or is it not an issue since those games are mainly played from a PC?
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I could not get used to the digital IPD adjustment in the Rift. No matter what setting I picked everything looked blurry.

The Quest 1 was a much better experience, but that had the screen door effect.

Haven't tried the Quest 2, but I returned the Quest 1 after the whole Facebook account thing. I stopped using Facebook years ago, and a cheap headset isn't going to bring me back.


I'd rather save up for the Index or HP G2.
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mobbie wrote: Good thread. I'll probably gravitate to a quest 2 when a deal comes along.

Whats the consensus on storage size. Is 64GB enough considering many games are hitting 50-100gb? Or is it not an issue since those games are mainly played from a PC?
I won't be playing it outside of a tethered PC so I guess you will have to evaluate your own use case
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The best is when I use virtual desktop to play my pc games with my quest 2 while lying in bed. Try doing that with the rift lol.
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kazkira wrote: The best is when I use virtual desktop to play my pc games with my quest 2 while lying in bed. Try doing that with the rift lol.
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hey so for somebody who will mostly play VR on PC, (racing games simulation -- seated game), watch movies and NOT care about being wired or wireless, do you guys still recommend Quest 2?

The only thing that hold me back now is the input lag (very important in racing sim) !!! In order to connect quest 2 to PC you will have to buy an 01 additional USB cable for ~ $50- ~ $100 I think ? And even with the highest quality of cables (don't even mention wireless) there would still be some input lag in compare with Oculus rift S (the Rift S use 1 dedicated Display port cable + 1 USB 3 cable = more cables so less input lag ?), is that true ? Is there any information about this input lag thing ? Thanks a lot guys !
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FooNdaR wrote: “Playing my *games*” Winking Face
Having a virtual massive ultrawide screen on my ceiling whenever I want to play games while using the xbox controller is pretty cool, you ought to try it sometimes instead of watching porn or whatever.
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kazkira wrote: Having a virtual massive ultrawide screen on my ceiling whenever I want to play games while using the xbox controller is pretty cool, you ought to try it sometimes instead of watching porn or whatever.
I tried that on an Oculus Rift S. The picture clarity is not good compare to a real monitor + a lot more eyes strain + the added input lag (the moment you hit a button to the moment that your action is reflected on the screen). The good thing is you can set what ever custom resolution and have it 16:9 21:9 32:9 and have the screen very close or far to your eyes and have it flat or curved …. , it's definitely a new and fun experience but I would still stick to a real monitor as much as I can and use VR for only VR stuff. But to be fair tho I only tried it when I was sitting not lying on the bed, maybe it would be more comfortable and more fun when you're lying and maybe I will try it out, idk.....
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JoJoCan wrote: Wow... Phasmophobia is not very enjoyable for me in VR... I already got a return label from Amazon... Will try it again and if I don't like it, I'll be returning my Rift S :(
Why? You getting vr sickness? If so you'll get over it after a week or so, if it's because you're scared well.......
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Thundercloud wrote: Just to add to the discussion, Eleven Table Tennis is a fast pace Table Tennis sim where accurate tracking is super important. The dev has recently reiterated that playing the Steam version of the game on Quest / Quest 2 will result in a poor tracking experience and recommends people to play the native Oculus version instead for those headsets.

So you like the game but just not in VR?
Phasmophobia is a game that was fun for a few hours for me but then it's basically "solved" and you can play it perfectly and all the spookiness is gone. For me, the VR added nothing, but maybe it's because I already had played the base game for 5-6 hours and I knew all the mechanics. It works fine though.
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