Odyssey vs Sienna

Sienna AWD!

Personally I like both. The Sienna is really long in the Tooth. The Odyssey drives better and get slightly better mileage. Technically Honda is now 1 Generation ahead of Toyota's Minivans. There's Rumors of a new Sienna coming on TNGA.
The Sienna AWD has AWD but the AWD system isn't great.

Drive both You'll see the Odyssey drives better. Partially because the Non-AWD Sienna is still torsion beam and the Odyssey is multi-link rear.

It's really hard to describe the differences, The Odyssey is just more refined and overall it's a better van.

tebore wrote: ↑ Personally I like both. The Sienna is really long in the Tooth. The Odyssey drives better and get slightly better mileage. Technically Honda is now 1 Generation ahead of Toyota's Minivans. There's Rumors of a new Sienna coming on TNGA.
The Sienna AWD has AWD but the AWD system isn't great.

Drive both You'll see the Odyssey drives better. Partially because the Non-AWD Sienna is still torsion beam and the Odyssey is multi-link rear.

It's really hard to describe the differences, The Odyssey is just more refined and overall it's a better van.

Agreed.

I have one of each. The Sienna AWD as you said is rather mild AWD. It can help in some instances but it’s not great overall. Plus the 2011-2014 Sienna AWD have faulty rear viscous couplers that cost $1500 torepair that Toyota won’t stand behind after the basic warranty...even though it’s a faulty design.

The Sienna feels cheap inside, the Ody feels more substantial and better quality overall. The Sienna drives more like a boat vs the Ody is a bit sharper on turn in. So bottom line - agreed go with the Ody all things considered unless mild AWD is a necessity.

We bought a 2015 Odyssey 2 months back.

Looked at the Sienna (not AWD) but found they were rare and very pricey outside the GTA.

I liked the higher road clearance on the Sienna and the full 2 rows of into the floor seats but at the end of the day a good deal came up on an Odyssey (price didn't appear to have properly included the hitch and I got them to throw in the roof racks / rails, rear mud flaps and 2 rows of mats).

I drive our Outback but my wife is very happy with the van.

Odyssey has terrible ground clearance if you are in a snowy area. But vehicle is nice. Would rather have AWD Sienna. I'm guessing the redesigned Sienna next year will be absolutely fantastic (maybe they will do a hybrid this time?), but also will be the most expensive option by a few thousand.

We have a 2011 Odyssey and i would consider getting the sienna instead.

The odyssey uses a timing belt which is something to consider in a used option. In addition to this there are concerns with oil consumption.

http://www.hondaproblems.com/trends/exc ... nsumption/
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Ody ... tion.shtml

The Odyssey from 05-10
Definitely had oil consumption problems and easily worn active engine mounts front the VCM system.

Supposedly in the 11-17 the oil consumption problem was resolved. From 2013 (2014MY) onward the Odyssey gained a 6 speed automatic on all trims and had most issues ironed out. The 2011 MY did have some oil problems but supposedily was fixed with ECU update. By 2014 they revised the rings to resolve the issue fully.

As for the timing belt...
Wait till you find out how much it costs for a sparkplug change on the Sienna...
Yes the belt change is a but more but it's a small price to pay.

Honda Odyssey. Honda is more smooth. Toyota is harsh. All Toyotas feel like tanks when driving.

We were in the same situation as you, had a third baby coming so had to get a van. We looked at the Pacifica's, Sienna's, and Honda's and in the end ended up with a 2013 Honda Odyssey EX-L with RES. We just found the Honda's much more comfortable (like the other poster posted, the Sienna felt cheap inside), was priced a bit lower then the Sienna, and drove very smooth.

Thanks @Goodwill234 - how much did you end up paying for your van?

Goodwill234 wrote: ↑ We were in the same situation as you, had a third baby coming so had to get a van. We looked at the Pacifica's, Sienna's, and Honda's and in the end ended up with a 2013 Honda Odyssey EX-L with RES. We just found the Honda's much more comfortable (like the other poster posted, the Sienna felt cheap inside), was priced a bit lower then the Sienna, and drove very smooth.

We ended up paying just under $25,000 with taxes and fees in. It had just about 80,000KM.

I tried both the sienna and odyssey and went with a odyssey, that was in 2015.

I wanted to buy a used odyssey, but for a 4 years old 100000km it was only 5000$ cheaper than new, so I bought new instead.

I'm pretty much in the same position, with a 3rd child on the way at the end of the year. We've got some hills in Calgary that would benefit the Sienna and its AWD during the winter months. Seen it all too often, folks with FWD that need help pushing up the hill with the back end sliding all over, and I'd hate for that to happen to the wife if I'm away.

I'm also researching two other options, the Pacifica and the Grand Caravan which appear to have some good value for the price, although I don't know how they are with respect to reliability in the long term.

Love our 2018 Odyssey. Don't really miss AWD all that much if you have good snow tires.

We recently rented the Caravan for a family road trip and found the in floor storage (where the Stow n Go seats go) to be extremely welcomed feature.

Do Sienna or Odyssey have something comparable? (we might be going the minivan route too later this year, so thought of asking)

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ We recently rented the Caravan for a family road trip and found the in floor storage (where the Stow n Go seats go) to be extremely welcomed feature.

Do Sienna or Odyssey have something comparable? (we might be going the minivan route too later this year, so thought of asking)

Nope. That feature is unique to the Caravan and Pacifica.

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ We recently rented the Caravan for a family road trip and found the in floor storage (where the Stow n Go seats go) to be extremely welcomed feature.

Do Sienna or Odyssey have something comparable? (we might be going the minivan route too later this year, so thought of asking)

Don't let this feature sway your decision. It will always be a trade-off. This is the response from a Honda engineer when asked about it in 2004:

http://www.wardsauto.com/news-analysis/ ... ow-odyssey

"Seating comfort and size played a role in Honda's decision to forgo a similar system for the Odyssey, says Yutaka Fujiwara, chief engineer for Honda R&D and head of the Odyssey engineering team.
(Chrysler's seats) didn't seem to have the right level of comfort, and the seat was quite small,” he tells Ward's.
Fujiwara says Honda did not want to sacrifice the comfort of the captain's chairs..."

The trade-off still holds today. You have to ask yourself how often you'll be required to remove the 2nd row of seating. I owned 3 minivans in my lifetime and I've had to remove them only a handful of times. Not worth my family's comfort imo.

ScarySkulls wrote: ↑ We recently rented the Caravan for a family road trip and found the in floor storage (where the Stow n Go seats go) to be extremely welcomed feature.

Do Sienna or Odyssey have something comparable? (we might be going the minivan route too later this year, so thought of asking)

We have a 2015 Town and Country Touring-L. We only considered that and Caravan due to Stow n Go availability (Pacifica was not available yet at the time). It all depends on how you use your vehicle, but I don't think a week goes by that we don't utilize this feature. Having the flexibility to make changes when you're out and about is great. The one downside to actually using the bins is having to empty them when you're making a change.

Note that although the Pacifica has some new tricks wrt Stow N Go (one button to move the front seats out of the way), you can no longer adjust the middle seats back and forth like you can on the Gen5 vans. Pacifica removes some other stuff as well that may not be immediately obvious. Infotainment is way more modern of course.

Our T&C now has 75k on it. We've done nothing but oil changes. Original brakes. Would I buy any other Chrysler product? Probably not. But the vans can be good value if it meets your needs and you pick one up at the right price.

Own a 2016 Odyssey and I love it. Drives great not being AWD hasn’t been an issue with our snow tires (and keep in mind the winter we just had)

In all honesty I was originally planning on a Sienna AWD but the finance rate was so high with Toyota. When we bought at Honda It was either 0.9 or 1.9 I don’t remember but it was significantly lower then Toyota’s. Don’t regret it all and very happy with the van !