The Official Canada Goose Authenticity / Legit Check Thread

abolesco1 wrote: ↑thanks for the advice everyone! I am about 5'10, athletic/slender, 38 chest, 150 myself as well. Some companies medium is too big, some small does the fit for me. So when you say swimming in medium, you think it will look awkwardly too large and not be as effective or I can still do it?

Given you are very similar to my size, you will also be swimming in the medium Heli-Arctic. When I say "swimming", picture wearing a down-filled parka that is perfectly your size UNDERNEATH the medium Heli-Arctic. There's THAT much room inside the medium "relaxed insulated" fit coats for guys like us, and that's how it was for my medium Snow Mantra, also "relaxed insulated".

abolesco1 wrote: ↑Is there any reason that Heli Artic went on sale? and the sale price of 300(from 875!?). Are their much down sides to this jacket?
And on Canada goose, didn't they say it rarely goes on sale?
Let me know know thoughts on this model and he claims it was last year in store's clearance sales, so any issues with that model?

Thanks

Not sure about it going on sale, as there aren't a whole lot of Heli-Arctics on the secondhand market to really follow how it's trending, but the only authorized dealer I know that sells discounted Heli-Arctics is: http://www.gear-up.com/category/247

$300 is quite a decent price for one if it's in fantastic condition. Since it's not your size, you may be able to buy it and resell it for a slight profit... and then use the profits toward a jacket that is your size. If Vancouver doesn't typically dip below -10 degrees, the Heli-Arctic would be overkill anyway. Given you're a slim/athletic guy with the same build as me, I might even recommend RFD's favourite Canada Goose whipping boy jacket... the CHATEAU... it's getting a reputation around here for not being quite warm enough for temperatures below -10 BUT it is sleek and looks rather good on guys with our frame. It's getting perceived as a stylish urban piece. I recommend a small for you, having tried on a small myself. Alternatively, anything from the Multi-Zone Collection in size small might also work for the mild west coast winters: http://www.canada-goose.com/products-2/ ... _multizone

bondjames wrote: ↑Hi guys is this jacket real?

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Thanks

Yes, all good. A little dark but the details are unmistakeable. The seller knows WHAT to shoot, but not necessarily HOW to shoot in optimal conditions.

How much should I re-offer and does the fur looks nice?

My golden rule is following the $200 Chilliwack standard I set out for myself when I got my first one... although I'm the exception rather than rule. People will bludgeon you half to death for suggesting $200.

Below I am about to type a crash course in negotiation tailored towards bringing down the cost of Canada Goose on the secondhand market. I have not personally tested these negotiation tactics, but they are standard negotiation/bargaining tactics anyway. I have several family members who love negotiating to get deals, whereas I am just flat-out a cheapskate who won't buy anything unless it's VERY inexpensive, and my family hates me for being a penny pincher. But, this is REDFLAGDEALS, home of Canadians who are looking for deals. I don't negotiate, because I am more of a lion that very patiently stalks its prey (watches the used market) and pounces on the extremely weak gazelles (very inexpensive jackets such as the legendary $200 Chilliwack) without waffling about with "negotiation". If you're a predator that prefers to play with its food before devouring it, you may find the below guide useful. It's a bit rough... sorry, I am just brain-vomiting all my thoughts into words.

1.) Know that the Chilliwack is the most common Canada Goose jacket on the secondhand market.

2.) At any time you will walk away from the deal if you don't get what you want, because they are a dime a dozen (Rule 1). Do not get emotionally attached to any one particular deal, especially the common Chilliwack. This gives your negotiation strength.

3.) Analyze it and pick it apart. Be nitpicky. Looking at the photos, I can tell it's in good shape but could be better for the asking price of $450. Notice the loose thread on the Arctic Program disc on the "G". You expect discs to be perfect. Also notice slight fraying on the inside patch around the perimeter of the rectangle. The fur is nice but not the most beautiful you've seen, and people are willing to pay more for a really good-looking fur. The fact that he is including all the hangtags, receipt, and booklet is nice but actually arms the seller with negotiating power since he's proving authenticity, so in this case I would not mention how these things can give him potential value. You can tell the jacket has been worn due to the condition of the garment tag (the one with the barcode) so use that against him.

4.) Obviously try it on. Do not gush about it and say how much you love it. Remain emotionally neutral.

5.) If you absolutely need THIS jacket, after picking it apart (Rule 3) and trying it on (Rule 4), offer $100-$150 below the original asking price and be willing to meet at a price in between... negotiate like an episode of Pawn Stars and be firm about the maximum price BELOW the original $450 where you are willing to meet, but flexible below that maximum price. EXAMPLE: Original price is $450 but the seller is secretly willing to go as low as $350 since he knows it's a used jacket. You know you're going to pitch $300 to start but you have brought with you $400 cash just in case, but not the full $450 in cash. You analyze the jacket (Rule 3 and Rule 4) and offer that starting price of $300. The seller counters with $400. You offer $325. The seller is willing to meet you somewhere in between at $360. You think about it and agree that it is a good price. You buy the jacket. Bring lots of small bills adding up to the $400 maximum you are willing to pay so that he doesn't have to get out his wallet to make change.

6.) Walk away neutrally without the jacket (no insulting the seller for sticking to his guns because you are doing the same, be courteous, and thank him for his time) or buy the jacket and be happy.

EDIT: SlicedUpBeef demonstrates effective negotiation in this post where he successfully brought down a $120 listed Chilliwack to $90.

abolesco1 wrote: ↑Is there any reason that Heli Artic went on sale? and the sale price of 300(from 875!?). Are their much down sides to this jacket?
And on Canada goose, didn't they say it rarely goes on sale?
Let me know know thoughts on this model and he claims it was last year in store's clearance sales, so any issues with that model?

Thanks

yep, the company went under. there was this red Heli Arctic or a bright yellow. LOL

how much are you paying for it? Giving this is probably bought at 300, I wouldn't pay a cent over 400. Considering how old this model is.

I just want to mention something that seems to never come up with regards to buying used CG coats. Sellers should clarify if the coat was stored in a smoke-free environment. I'm reading all these people on here curious to see if a CG coat is legit, and if the fur looks good, and yet I just realized that there is a potential of purchasing a CG used coat with fur that smells because the owner is a smoker and inevitably the smoke makes it's way in the air to the coat, wherever it may be.

Anyways, this thought just came to me. Something to always keep in mind and potentially check out as you bizarrely smell the fur on the hood of the coat you are thinking of buying from a stranger online.

kingofwale wrote: ↑yep, the company went under.

What company went under?

mapleleaf27 wrote: ↑I just want to mention something that seems to never come up with regards to buying used CG coats. Sellers should clarify if the coat was stored in a smoke-free environment. I'm reading all these people on here curious to see if a CG coat is legit, and if the fur looks good, and yet I just realized that there is a potential of purchasing a CG used coat with fur that smells because the owner is a smoker and inevitably the smoke makes it's way in the air to the coat, wherever it may be.

Anyways, this thought just came to me. Something to always keep in mind and potentially check out as you bizarrely smell the fur on the hood of the coat you are thinking of buying from a stranger online.

Being a lifetime non-smoker, I always take this for granted, whether I am buying or selling on eBay. I always forget to check with buyers who don't mention it, and I always forget to state it in my own auctions. This is a really good point.

CanadaGooseForumAdmin wrote: ↑What company went under?



Being a lifetime non-smoker, I always take this for granted, whether I am buying or selling on eBay. I always forget to check with buyers who don't mention it, and I always forget to state it in my own auctions. This is a really good point.

an online company (was listed under Canada goose website) that contain word "Arctic". I can't remember anymore,

kingofwale wrote: ↑yep, the company went under. there was this red Heli Arctic or a bright yellow. LOL

I believe Antarctic Connection used to be known as 'All Things Arctic' because if you enter allthingsarctic.com into your browser you automatically go to the site for Antarctic Connection. Either Antarctic Connection took them over or their site was simply known as All Things... before. Or perhaps something else.

kingofwale wrote: ↑an online company (was listed under Canada goose website) that contain word "Arctic". I can't remember anymore,

yea the company was named All Things Arctic. thats where I got my first ever canada goose! the spirit vest with the maple leaf :P

zumi78878 wrote: ↑yea the company was named All Things Arctic. thats where I got my first ever canada goose! the spirit vest with the maple leaf :P

A few months ago, I had the opportunity to buy a Freestyle vest, size extra large, for $80 from a Kijiji seller. It was an older model with the Heli-Arctic maple leaf on the chest instead of the current version that has the Arctic Program disc, and it was in excellent condition. I don't know why I didn't snap it up to resell considering the average price for a Freestyle on eBay is around $200.

CanadaGooseForumAdmin wrote: ↑A few months ago, I had the opportunity to buy a Freestyle vest, size extra large, for $80 from a Kijiji seller. It was an older model with the Heli-Arctic maple leaf on the chest instead of the current version that has the Arctic Program disc, and it was in excellent condition. I don't know why I didn't snap it up to resell considering the average price for a Freestyle on eBay is around $200.

oh no no no. its good that you didn't buy that vest, not even for $80. you wouldn't want to know how long it took me to sell my maple leaf vest for $150 and mine was an XS... and nobody buys sz XL these days also :P

From the Antarctic Connection site's 'about us' page...

What is The Antarctic Connection
The Antarctic Connection(TM) is an internet based retailer and information source for All Things Antarctic(TM). Our mission is to be the best and widest source for premium Antarctic related products. We strive to be a responsible booking agent for travel to this pristine continent. And we aim to provide accurate and extensive news, weather and information from and about the frozen continent.

My guess is that their website url was simply 'allthingsarctic' and they changed it or perhaps the company changed their name from 'all things....' to AC. Either way, I don't think anyone ever went out of business.

What are your thoughts on the Resolute Jacket as well? I found a better deal on one that is a Small rather than the heli-artic Medium and it is cheaper. Are there any downsides to this jacket(I suppose it does look a bit worse), but in terms of effectiveness or anything else I may be overlooking.

Also, in terms of sizing. Previous posters have mentioned how large smalls or mediums(where I maybe swimming in my size) is. I read a post somewhere online where a guy suggested he was looking for a women's Large or Medium as it would have just a comfortable cut for men's because the men's are especially generous. So for a slender guy like myself(5'10ish, around 150, 38 chest, slender build), does that mean I would be comfortable in a ladies large/x-large? Ha, it sounds silly, but I am curious. Also, although based in vancouver, I travel to around constantly to Quebec and NYC on a regular basis for work

cheers

mapleleaf27 wrote: ↑From the Antarctic Connection site's 'about us' page...

What is The Antarctic Connection
The Antarctic Connection(TM) is an internet based retailer and information source for All Things Antarctic(TM). Our mission is to be the best and widest source for premium Antarctic related products. We strive to be a responsible booking agent for travel to this pristine continent. And we aim to provide accurate and extensive news, weather and information from and about the frozen continent.

My guess is that their website url was simply 'allthingsarctic' and they changed it or perhaps the company changed their name from 'all things....' to AC. Either way, I don't think anyone ever went out of business.

hey, I found the thread about this.

merged-canada-goose-159-399us-clearance-977189/

kingofwale wrote: ↑hey, I found the thread about this.

merged-canada-goose-159-399us-clearance-977189/

Okay thanks. So apparently they went out of business. Wish I could have seen what they were offering CG wise at that time. My guess is bad colors and huge sizes.

Hi,
not authenticity-related, but here goes.

Does anyone own a Langford? I'm buying from an online retailer, and therefore have no way of trying it on for sizing. According to GGs sizing chart, I'm a medium. 102cm chest, 179cm short and 85kg light. I've heard that at least for the loose fit parkas (Expedition etc) one should go down a size from ones normal size, but I don't know for the slim fits. I'm usually a medium/large, 48/50 European size.

mapleleaf27 wrote: ↑Okay thanks. So apparently they went out of business. Wish I could have seen what they were offering CG wise at that time. My guess is bad colors and huge sizes.

I wish I knew about Antarctic Connection at around Nov of 2010.. I could have purchased that CG Air force bomber jacket..

nannus wrote: ↑Hi,
not authenticity-related, but here goes.

Does anyone own a Langford? I'm buying from an online retailer, and therefore have no way of trying it on for sizing. According to GGs sizing chart, I'm a medium. 102cm chest, 179cm short and 85kg light. I've heard that at least for the loose fit parkas (Expedition etc) one should go down a size from ones normal size, but I don't know for the slim fits. I'm usually a medium/large, 48/50 European size.

I say go with a M size.

Please is a true or false - I want more opinions!!!



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minuie wrote: ↑fake or not THX



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I'm no expert, but from reading this entire thread, I'd say tags look good, hologram is there, stitching in general and disc looks good.