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Official Sony Playstation 5 Thread - Nov. 12 Launch, $499/$629

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Official Sony Playstation 5 Thread - Nov. 12 Launch, $499/$629

Link to tweet.
General Info:

The official name is PlayStation 5.

Releasing Holidays 2020.

Ray tracing support is hardware-based.

New SSD will help boot times, loading times and streaming.

The controller now has adaptive triggers, haptic feedback, new speakers, USB Type-C.

Physical games for the console will use 100 GB optical disks.

Optical drive also acts as a 4k Blu-ray player.

Additional Info

The dev kits (which were leaked) are actually real and developers have access to them.

A new modular approach to storing data. Finer grain access to data, as opposed to big blocks. Ex: Users might have the ability to install only Multiplayer components of the game.

Completely revamped UI.

The new controller will have a larger battery capacity and will be a bit heavier than Dualshock 4.

Haptic feedback for PS4 Pro's Dual Shock 4 could have been implemented, but was decided against.

Bluepoint studios (folks behind the Shadow of the Colossus remaster) are working on a "big" PS5 title.

The GPU has been used to power Machine learning.
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More importantly, I wonder what the launch titles will be. It was inFamous that got me to pick up a ps4 back in the day.
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willdacanucker wrote: Link to tweet.
General Info:

The official name is PlayStation 5.

Releasing Holidays 2020.

Ray tracing support is hardware-based.

New SSD will help boot times, loading times and streaming.

The controller now has adaptive triggers, haptic feedback, new speakers, USB Type-C.

Physical games for the console will use 100 GB optical disks.

Optical drive also acts as a 4k Blu-ray player.

Additional Info

The dev kits (which were leaked) are actually real and developers have access to them.

A new modular approach to storing data. Finer grain access to data, as opposed to big blocks. Ex: Users might have the ability to install only Multiplayer components of the game.

Completely revamped UI.

The new controller will have a larger battery capacity and will be a bit heavier than Dualshock 4.

Haptic feedback for PS4 Pro's Dual Shock 4 could have been implemented, but was decided against.

Bluepoint studios (folks behind the Shadow of the Colossus remaster) are working on a "big" PS5 title.

The GPU has been used to power Machine learning.
So basically a PC.

Playstation 5, no. Thought it would be called Picadela Bravia. lol

New UI? About time. 8 years too old.

Haptic feedback? Maybe. But there are features of Dualshock 4 that many developers never used. Some were used quite well. Again comes down to the development team.

They should have made the reveal at E3 2019 with some games to get people excited.

What about Dolby vision and HDR support? Dolby Atmos and DTS-X support?

Of course someone is working on a "Big title".

As previous console reveal history would suggest, all of these wonderful specs do not mean sh*t unless the experience in the gamer's hand changes from one generation to the next. And of course the games themselves. What will the new hardware bring? Some new fresh ideas or the same recycled crap we have had for most part for the last generation and a half.
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zod wrote: More importantly, I wonder what the launch titles will be. It was inFamous that got me to pick up a ps4 back in the day.
True but wasn't that a bit after initial launch? I remember Knack being the hype train and then a big pile of feces on launch day. Launch software is rarely ground breaking. Some exceptions over the years: Halo (Xbox), Super Mario World (N64), Zelda & Mario Odyssey (Switch), Resistance: Fall of Man (PS3), NFL 2K & Soul Calibur (Dreamcast) Ridge Raaaaaceeerrrr (PSOne). lol
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mrtvgame wrote: So basically a PC.

Playstation 5, no. Thought it would be called Picadela Bravia. lol

New UI? About time. 8 years too old.

Haptic feedback? Maybe. But there are features of Dualshock 4 that many developers never used. Some were used quite well. Again comes down to the development team.

They should have made the reveal at E3 2019 with some games to get people excited.

What about Dolby vision and HDR support? Dolby Atmos and DTS-X support?

Of course someone is working on a "Big title".

As previous console reveal history would suggest, all of these wonderful specs do not mean sh*t unless the experience in the gamer's hand changes from one generation to the next. And of course the games themselves. What will the new hardware bring? Some new fresh ideas or the same recycled crap we have had for most part for the last generation and a half.
Sheesh man. The hardware stuff is all welcome news to me. I am skeptical about consoles doing raytracing well but the rest is gold. Just the load time improvements alone would be hugely welcome. I played some of the best games of all time this generation so I'm not sure where the recycled crap comment comes from either. Every single console generation has recycled crap but its the standout games that matter and we had some amazing ones.

The only silly part of it I don't care about is the speakers in the controllers, just don't even bother with that nonsense it was never implemented well.
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tbh id rather have 60 fps than raytracing
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willdacanucker wrote: Bluepoint studios (folks behind the Shadow of the Colossus remaster) are working on a "big" PS5 title.
Are they basically hinting that they're doing a Shadow of the Colossus sequel or something?
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With backwards compatibility (even if only PS4) and 4k Blu-ray playback, this will be a day one buy for me. I'll be keeping an eye out for trade in promotions at EB.
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I feel like most of this stuff was already kind of known or could be easily predicted but I guess its nice to get confirmation. I'm still not sold yet on whether I need these new consoles day one but I won't know until I see any games or features actually being shown off whether its worth it or not.

The one thing I'm a bit nervous about is with the UI, I hope if they are building them from scratch again that we don't have to wait months/years for quality life features that were standard place in the previous generation like what happened with this generation.

Also I hope controllers are forwards/backwards compatible.
Haptic feedback (and more importantly better battery life) sounds great but not at the expense of having to re-buy controllers. The current iterations are already pretty great.
mrtvgame wrote: So basically a PC.

Playstation 5, no. Thought it would be called Picadela Bravia. lol

New UI? About time. 8 years too old.

Haptic feedback? Maybe. But there are features of Dualshock 4 that many developers never used. Some were used quite well. Again comes down to the development team.

They should have made the reveal at E3 2019 with some games to get people excited.

What about Dolby vision and HDR support? Dolby Atmos and DTS-X support?

Of course someone is working on a "Big title".

As previous console reveal history would suggest, all of these wonderful specs do not mean sh*t unless the experience in the gamer's hand changes from one generation to the next. And of course the games themselves. What will the new hardware bring? Some new fresh ideas or the same recycled crap we have had for most part for the last generation and a half.
LOL, you always come off so angry about this stuff.
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SpicYMchaggis wrote: I feel like most of this stuff was already kind of known or could be easily predicted but I guess its nice to get confirmation. I'm still not sold yet on whether I need these new consoles day one but I won't know until I see any games or features actually being shown off whether its worth it or not.

The one thing I'm a bit nervous about is with the UI, I hope if they are building them from scratch again that we don't have to wait months/years for quality life features that were standard place in the previous generation like what happened with this generation.

Also I hope controllers are forwards/backwards compatible.
Haptic feedback (and more importantly better battery life) sounds great but not at the expense of having to re-buy controllers. The current iterations are already pretty great.



LOL, you always come off so angry about this stuff.
Yeah, because I am old and have been at this for a very long time (over 40 years). So I have pretty much seen it all. The "king" has changed hands many times. Some of the best times were during the late 80's into the early 90's where Sega and Nintendo went head to head like a bad political campaign debate.
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Redmask wrote: Sheesh man. The hardware stuff is all welcome news to me. I am skeptical about consoles doing raytracing well but the rest is gold. Just the load time improvements alone would be hugely welcome. I played some of the best games of all time this generation so I'm not sure where the recycled crap comment comes from either. Every single console generation has recycled crap but its the standout games that matter and we had some amazing ones.

The only silly part of it I don't care about is the speakers in the controllers, just don't even bother with that nonsense it was never implemented well.
You're kidding right? How many remakes did we get this generation? RECYCLED CRAP.

As I mentioned above, been around for many years of this, so the BS reveals do not get me too excited any more. Each generation is less and less overwhelming. Might be the ages where we ae hitting performance walls.
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mrtvgame wrote: You're kidding right? How many remakes did we get this generation? RECYCLED CRAP.

As I mentioned above, been around for many years of this, so the BS reveals do not get me too excited any more. Each generation is less and less overwhelming. Might be the ages where we ae hitting performance walls.
You're not the only person who has been gaming for a long time. We had some of the highest reviewed games of all time this generation but ok man, whatever. I'm happy I still have enthusiasm for this hobby instead of negativity and cynicism. And there are very real improvements in framerates and load times that would be super welcome to me, not to mention out of the box backwards compatibility which helps smooth over the launch period.
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Looks like a pretty standard press release and nothing really jumps out at me at this point. To be honest this past generation and the PS4 especially really ruined the allure of consoles for me and I don't see them breaking any new ground with the PS5. The days of being blown away by console launches the way I was with the 360, PS3 and Wii are long gone and there's only so much you can do at the expected console price point.

The PS4 for me has been a generally underwhelming experience carried entirely on the strength of exclusives, a few of which I enjoyed but still found them all extremely overrated and none would make my list of favorite games from the past 5 years most of which are multiplatform releases best played PC. In retrospect I'm glad I didn't buy a PS4 early or spend much on its games over the years. As we move into 2020 I just don't see myself getting excited about another mediocre walled garden experience carried by more overrated exclusives.
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SpicYMchaggis wrote: I feel like most of this stuff was already kind of known or could be easily predicted but I guess its nice to get confirmation. I'm still not sold yet on whether I need these new consoles day one but I won't know until I see any games or features actually being shown off whether its worth it or not.

The one thing I'm a bit nervous about is with the UI, I hope if they are building them from scratch again that we don't have to wait months/years for quality life features that were standard place in the previous generation like what happened with this generation.

Also I hope controllers are forwards/backwards compatible.
Haptic feedback (and more importantly better battery life) sounds great but not at the expense of having to re-buy controllers. The current iterations are already pretty great.
Yeah, the hardware stuff has been leaked multiple times, and those of us who listen to podcasts are probably already aware of all that stuff. Like you, I'm very on the fence about making the jump. I don't even own a 4K TV, and Ray Tracing, while awesome, isn't a deal breaker.

I went with PS4 first this gen as a day 1 purchase, but if I decide to be an early adopter, I will likely go Xbox first for next gen since I've got like 2 years of Gamepass Ultimate queued up... and I'm guessing MS is banking on all of us who did the upgrade to do the same.
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Backwards compatibility and the promise of Sony's stellar first party catalog has me on board day one for PS5. I'll play whatever the good launch titles are and keep cleaning up my old library.

Microsoft really burned me this gen so I'm waiting to see what they have to offer.
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mrtvgame wrote: You're kidding right? How many remakes did we get this generation? RECYCLED CRAP.
As I mentioned above, been around for many years of this, so the BS reveals do not get me too excited any more. Each generation is less and less overwhelming. Might be the ages where we ae hitting performance walls.
I sort of agree that each generation gets lets impressive and we're hitting performance walls but this past one definitely wasn't all recycled crap. Games like Uncharted 4 and God Of War were significantly different from the previous games and tons of multiplatform releases were great games with fresh ideas. That said I'm not a fan of how people use Sony exclusives as justification to look the other way from them offering a generally bare minimum experience weighed down by anti consumer crap
M1GOmigs wrote: I went with PS4 first this gen as a day 1 purchase, but if I decide to be an early adopter, I will likely go Xbox first for next gen since I've got like 2 years of Gamepass Ultimate queued up... and I'm guessing MS is banking on all of us who did the upgrade to do the same.
The introduction and existence of stuff like Game Pass, Origin access and even Uplay+ in addition to generally better sales on other platforms makes buying a PS5 and paying $80 per exclusive game more unappealing than ever. I know they're trying to push PS Now but it comes across as a half hearted attempt to compete and the value sucks in comparison. Maybe that will change when PS5 actually launches but right now it's pretty clear they don't think they're in competition with anyone and are complacent in their position
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You'll be happy to know then that Sony fully opened up cross-play and PS Now was just revamped and priced down.

Beyond that they just need to let us use our peripherals from the previous gen (where possible) and I think that's all of the "anti consumer crap" :)

I don't think Sony is resting on its laurels at all, the PS5 specs would be significantly worse if they were and they bought a few studios recently to shore up first party IP. Revamping the UI is another good idea too, though personally I thought the PS4 UI was simple and efficient. I just hope that they don't need to redo all of the apps again.
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The poor value of PS+ and awful quality of PSN sales compared to a few years ago still don't sit right with me and makes me feel like they're complacent and not competing. When they jack the price of PS+ another $20 and don't offer anything extra in return, would you guys just be OK with that?
I also don't see PS Now in the same league as Game Pass, especially since Game Pass allows me to play MS exclusives with far better visuals and free multiplayer on PC. If someone only has a PlayStation I can see how they wouldn't think it's bad but I can't imagine it winning over anyone with access to an Xbox and/or PC
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I own all consoles and subscribe to Nintendo Network, Gold GamePass Ultimate, and PS+

All have their pros and cons. PS+ and Gold let you keep the free games you add to your library and any free games you ever added to your account reactivate whenever you have an active subscription.

GamePass is kind of like Netflix style because games are added and removed month to month except for the newer Microsoft games studios releases which have never left thus far. Once the games leave Gamepass you cannot play them for free anymore unlike Gold and PS+.

Gold and PS+ also give an extra 20% off digital games that go up on the weekly sales.
ReeGee wrote: The poor value of PS+ and awful quality of PSN sales compared to a few years ago still don't sit right with me and makes me feel like they're complacent and not competing. When they jack the price of PS+ another $20 and don't offer anything extra in return, would you guys just be OK with that?
I also don't see PS Now in the same league as Game Pass, especially since Game Pass allows me to play MS exclusives with far better visuals and free multiplayer on PC. If someone only has a PlayStation I can see how they wouldn't think it's bad but I can't imagine it winning over anyone with access to an Xbox and/or PC
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I like the inclusion of the 4K HDR UHD Blu-ray player in PS5.

I have two XBox One X’s and 4K HDR Blu-ray movies look more stunning than any games I have ever played using 4K Native with HDR.

It is the XBox’s best feature it has over PS4.

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