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There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

stovetop wrote: ↑There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

A lot of it stems from them losing their way. They are no longer communicative with their consumers (releasing buggy updates, changes affecting battery life that negatively affect performance without allowing any opting out, focusing on expanding their lineup without perfecting their core lineup and seemingly leaving it to the wayside)

stovetop wrote: ↑ There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

mostly on the software side, shady practices, some people don't like the merge with color os, shorter update cycles, lots of bugs etc

so alot of one plus fans turned to realme/poco nowdays

stovetop wrote: ↑ There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

I guess the buck stopped there

Heck, even my 5T is less buggy than my 7t

stovetop wrote: ↑ There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

Previously ,If I could compare Oneplus+ to a brand it would have been 'Presidents Choice'. It wasn't cheap enough to be considered low tier but wasn't expensive enough to fight with the bigger players. Where they shined was the quality and workmanship that went into their phones. I still have their 3T, 5, and now on my 7T. All of them amazing quality phones that had some usable gimmick or feature better than most flagships on the market.

Now I would compare them to the 'Farmboy' brand. Mid-Higher prices but still good quality phones.....BUT now they are able to play with the big boys and tap into that market. A phone that I was able to get at around $400 and still be better than the latest Samsung/Apple on the market, is now in the same price range as them and that's why I feel a lot of hate is going towards them.

The new Android 11 killed a lot of their users' phones (7 series)

stovetop wrote: ↑ There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

They went up in price tier but not in feature. Oneplus started out where POCO is today. But as they go up in pricing, people stop tolerating a less than top tier camera system compared to similarly priced Samsung or Apple.

The bang for $ is far from their 2014 Oneplus One "flagship killer" debut. And since Carl left, it's just a way for BBK to push OPPO phones to the western market. They lost all the features that enthusiasts are looking for.

Like do you really want to pay $1400 for Oneplus 9 Pro where the Hasselblad camera is just meh?

TLDR, Oneplus started out as a Hyundai, but now they want you to pay for it like it's a Lexus or BMW.

Sounds like good deal though. But not sure about its OS. And also noticed fewer ppl are using oneplus than a couple of years ago

one more reason to add to the others in this thread is their recent bait and switch by promoting the OP9/+ as a dual sim phone, but silently removing this feature for the north american market

stovetop wrote: ↑ There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

RFD likes low price high quality = good value
oneplus one was low price high quality = good value
oneplus 6 was already medium high price high quality = medium value
anything after that was high price high quality = neutral value
now oneplus is high price medium quality = low value

stovetop wrote: ↑There seems to be a general dislike amongst RFD for OnePlus phones now.
What's the reason behind that? My partner has a OnePlus6 and says it's great.

Well they aren’t bad phone, it just I’m not sure who would be down to pay $1400 for a phone that isn’t a Samsung or iPhone. Don’t forget their camera quality still behind the competition.

As mentioned above, prices aren't good anymore.

If one wanted to save money and buy from aliexpress, you could save about $180 by buying a Realme GT vs Oneplus 9 which is practically the exact same phone.
(with shipping) Realme GT $592 Oneplus 9 $770

Phone comparisons: gsmarena

People aren't aware of the lowered price OnePlus Nord phones? Not stellar, but decent for the price. Better than the competition at the price range except for maybe the cameras.

I was severely pissed at that stunt they pulled on Black Friday. Advertised great prices. Turned out to be in US$.

I've been a OnePlus fan since the OnePlus One but have moved onto the Poco F3 now. Their flagship phones are way too expensive for what you get.

Just purchased N200 at full price two weeks ago ...

I think OnePlus has been planning to go upscale all along and perhaps it may be a difference in opinion between Carl Pei and OnePlus that precipitated Pei's "sudden" departure. Wanting to "try something new" may have some truth to it, but it may be more than meets the eye. I feel that Pei was overruled and outgunned in OnePlus's direction. They were clearly doing something that worked like magic for a long time. However, they went completely guns ablazing when they jumped into the flagship market with their OnePlus 8. What a disaster that is with a so-so camera and gimmicky cameras and the premium pricing. They must think they have a strong brand like Apple that their customers will pay at any price just to get their latest phone.

Now they've artificially separated their lines with the embarrassingly inferior Nord line to give their "flagship" phones room to price themselves. They need to really get their act together to justify their premium pricing such as: cameras and computational photography (not just slapping the name of a famous camera brand on the phone and calling it a day) that rivals Samsung, Google, and Apple; frequent error-free updates; long software support (even Samsung which was very poor in software support has 4 years of system updates these days); stop it with the bait & switch and trickery on pricing.

OnePlus is clearly now a "2 tear (tier)" company -- One tear in each eye for what they've done with this beloved brand.

Connecting the dots backwards -- channeling Steve Jobs -- it was a smart move for Carl Pei to move on and start his own company and brand instead of keeping himself hitched to the dumpster fire that is becoming of the OnePlus brand he spent his efforts to help create and built up.